quote:The Cutts Compensator was not really what I'd consider "custom", nor was it a compensator like we think of on rifle barrels. They were common on hunting shotguns for the first 6 decades of the 20th Century, much like the Poly Choke, and they had the same function as the Poly Choke - adjustable choke. I don't think they really attenuated recoil, especially on an A5 type gun. My uncle had a Cutts on his 1950s era 12 gauge A5 and it kicked like a mule. They are also LOUD like ported barrels.
Looks like a Savage M720 if you ask me. it could still very well be an a-5 or model 11 for that matter. Definitely not worth that much though.
Plenty of custom work on it, including the checkered dust cover and the compensator. Probably the stock as well. Looks smoothed to match a deeper trim on the bottom of the receiver. Looks like the receiver was re-blued, and when it happened, I think they removed the serial number and ID markings as they slimmed it down. Without seeing it disassembled in person, you likely lose all hope of 100% IDing it. Honestly, with all of that work to remove identification characteristics, I'd wager it was first owned by a shady individual.
My guess is that the curious butt stock and all was fitted to an individual owner. No idea why you're slapping that compensator on a 20 gauge though.
quote:Fair. My grandpa had an old model 11, and researching them after he passed was the extent of my knowledge. Never shot one. It's still "custom" in that it wasn't a factory option as far as I know. That being said, the rest of the additions still look custom to me unless someone smarter knows of a production a-5 clone with no serial number!quote:The Cutts Compensator was not really what I'd consider "custom", nor was it a compensator like we think of on rifle barrels. They were common on hunting shotguns for the first 6 decades of the 20th Century, much like the Poly Choke, and they had the same function as the Poly Choke - adjustable choke. I don't think they really attenuated recoil, especially on an A5 type gun. My uncle had a Cutts on his 1950s era 12 gauge A5 and it kicked like a mule. They are also LOUD like ported barrels.
Looks like a Savage M720 if you ask me. it could still very well be an a-5 or model 11 for that matter. Definitely not worth that much though.
Plenty of custom work on it, including the checkered dust cover and the compensator. Probably the stock as well. Looks smoothed to match a deeper trim on the bottom of the receiver. Looks like the receiver was re-blued, and when it happened, I think they removed the serial number and ID markings as they slimmed it down. Without seeing it disassembled in person, you likely lose all hope of 100% IDing it. Honestly, with all of that work to remove identification characteristics, I'd wager it was first owned by a shady individual.
My guess is that the curious butt stock and all was fitted to an individual owner. No idea why you're slapping that compensator on a 20 gauge though.
quote:Perhaps it depends on the make of the shotgun, but I know for a fact that both Cutts and Poly Choke were a factory option on Browning A5s, Winchester Model 12s and Ithaca Model 37s. They served the same purpose as screw-in chokes do today. In fact, the Cutts could be considered the first screw-in choke as the tapered portion of the Cutts is remove and replace to change the choke - effectively the choke tube and screws in and out. At any rate, no point in arguing over symantics - I was just trying to provide information on the Cutts as they were common on shotguns when I was growing up.quote:Fair. My grandpa had an old model 11, and researching them after he passed was the extent of my knowledge. Never shot one. It's still "custom" in that it wasn't a factory option as far as I know. That being said, the rest of the additions still look custom to me unless someone smarter knows of a production a-5 clone with no serial number!quote:The Cutts Compensator was not really what I'd consider "custom", nor was it a compensator like we think of on rifle barrels. They were common on hunting shotguns for the first 6 decades of the 20th Century, much like the Poly Choke, and they had the same function as the Poly Choke - adjustable choke. I don't think they really attenuated recoil, especially on an A5 type gun. My uncle had a Cutts on his 1950s era 12 gauge A5 and it kicked like a mule. They are also LOUD like ported barrels.
Looks like a Savage M720 if you ask me. it could still very well be an a-5 or model 11 for that matter. Definitely not worth that much though.
Plenty of custom work on it, including the checkered dust cover and the compensator. Probably the stock as well. Looks smoothed to match a deeper trim on the bottom of the receiver. Looks like the receiver was re-blued, and when it happened, I think they removed the serial number and ID markings as they slimmed it down. Without seeing it disassembled in person, you likely lose all hope of 100% IDing it. Honestly, with all of that work to remove identification characteristics, I'd wager it was first owned by a shady individual.
My guess is that the curious butt stock and all was fitted to an individual owner. No idea why you're slapping that compensator on a 20 gauge though.
quote:Not that I know of and that is confusing me. I tried to look at some of the old Sears guns but couldn't find one with that design either.
Did any maker of the a5 design, other that the early Rem 11's, put the safety in front of the trigger?
quote:Not mentioned in this article are Franchi and TOZ of Russia, which are mentioned in another article I found, but now can't find it again, who supposedly also made copies of the A5.
Thus, the first Browning-designed humpback officially sold in the United States wasn't the Browning Auto-5. It was the Remington Model 11, a near-knockoff of the Auto-5 that was produced under license from Browning from 1911 to 1948. In 1930, another officially licensed Auto-5 clone appeared: the Savage Model 720. Finally, in the 1970s, two other Auto-5 clones were rolled out: the Auto Pointer, made by the Yamamoto Co. of Tokyo, and the Herter's SL-18, made by The Pine Co., also of Japan.
