HEB has decided to post 30.07 signs (prohibits open carry), which really doesn't bother me, but the anti-gunners are delirious in their joy (Moms Demand Action-TX). Business decisions can be changed over time, and HEB may relent when the issue has had some time to resolve itself.

Will be interesting to see what other businesses opt for the 30.07 signage...

As long as most businesses that put up 30.07 don't decide to put a combo 30.06/30.07 sign up, it won't bother me.

I can understand why businesses don't want open carry in their establishments.

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As long as most businesses that put up 30.07 don't decide to put a combo 30.06/30.07 sign up, it won't bother me.

I can understand why businesses don't want open carry in their establishments.

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I really don't get the excitement of open carry, personally would rather have the element of surprise. We have open carry here, and rarely do I see folks exercising their right.

Nevertheless, going to Chik-fila (liberals here in Cville love them some Chik-fila), whole foods and a host of other liberal utopian stores, most including the mouth breathers don't bat and eye.

The only time I'm aware of is a guy toting an AR and open carried into Kroger, someone called, PD came checked him out and he was on his way.

Will it hurt business at HEB, probably not. But it does sadden me that there giving into the "oh no, he/she has a gun" holstered mentality.

But like everything in life, people will learn and overtime become more comfortable.

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As long as most businesses that put up 30.07 don't decide to put a combo 30.06/30.07 sign up, it won't bother me.

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Agreed

Saw my first 30.06 + 30.07 sign side-by-side. Sports complex in Plano.

Mind blowing scenerio: someone only puts up a 30.06 sign.

Tuck your shirt behind your handgun?

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Mind blowing scenerio: someone only puts up a 30.06 sign.

Tuck your shirt behind your handgun?

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Technically legal, I believe.

My fear is that open carry is going to backfire on concealed carry folks and result in a lot more 30.06 signs going up. I don't really plan to open carry so 30.07 signs don't bother me much. If there's a 30.06 sign my money will go elsewhere (which would be unfortunate because I really like HEB).

As a side note, Round Rock PD, Georgetown PD and the Williamson Count DA office co-hosted a Q&A session Monday night about open carry. I went just because I was curious. Most of the questions were just people seeking clarification on the law. I was pleased with the three difference agencies attitude toward open carry and the way they say they are training their officers and dispatchers to deal with it.

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Saw my first 30.06 + 30.07 sign side-by-side. Sports complex in Plano.

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Was it city/county owned property or private property? I saw the new signs going up at Austin Diagnostic Clinic 3 weeks ago. Little did they know that during the next 3-4 weeks their 30.06 held no weight of law. Since it didn't contain the legal verbiage, I carried passed it to get my labs done.

I have no issue with a business owner making rules for their establishment, even if I think the rationale behind those rules are flat out stupid.

OC us going to be like anything else - a novelty at first, then it just becomes another aspect of life the vast majority of people go through life not noticing. Pretty much exactly the same path that CC took.

Much more concerned about 30.06 signs. Glad they went with two signs so stores can still allow concealed carry. And while I'll be disappointed to see 30.07 signs, I also won't be surprised, given the behavior of OCT and others in the past. Unfortunately all Texas gun owners will reap what they have sown.

The same things were said when CCW was debated. When it is discovered that the internet myths turn out to be exactly that, you'll see a lot less concern over the sight of a tool on somebody's belt.

Just put up 30.06/30.07 signs at my office. Not real pleased about it.

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As long as most businesses that put up 30.07 don't decide to put a combo 30.06/30.07 sign up, it won't bother me.

I can understand why businesses don't want open carry in their establishments.

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Because they cave to idiocy? The fear of seeing a gun is irrational. I shouldn't be limited where I want to carry by someone whose feelings MIGHT get hurt by seeing a gun.

We probably agree on our beliefs toward the (lack of) reasoning, but I agree with Schmelba-a private business can and should be able to do what they want.
Does the 30.07 prevent the open carry of a rifle? I think those types hurt the rest of us the most because of all the public shootings and media hysteria. I don't think people will even notice open carry after a few months.

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We probably agree on our beliefs toward the (lack of) reasoning, but I agree with Schmelba-a private business can and should be able to do what they want.
Does the 30.07 prevent the open carry of a rifle? I think those types hurt the rest of us the most because of all the public shootings and media hysteria. I don't think people will even notice open carry after a few months.

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30.06 and 30.07 signs only impact handguns.

Chik-fila is not a liberal utopia...they are based on pretty traditional Christian and conservative values

Most of the 30.07 signs you see going up now are in direct response to folks like Fatty and Snowboots, not "internet rumors".

Correct I should have been clearer, I meant patrons especially where I'm at.

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Chik-fila is not a liberal utopia...they are based on pretty traditional Christian and conservative values

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This is a good thread, I was also puzzled by the poster who mentioned libs in Collyville love chic fil a bc its a liberal utopia. Chick fil a is one of most conservative companies out there. Remember the recent support nationally from Christians and conservatives supporting their decision to fight the ACA (lol at that name - what a joke) and their stance on traditional marriage. Do the libs in C-ville not understand why they can't get their chic fil a on Sundays? Of course intelligence and logic have never been strong with libs and statists.

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Correct I should have been clearer, I meant patrons especially where I'm at.

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Gotcha, made my post while you were making yours!

No problem, my lack of details didn't help.

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As long as most businesses that put up 30.07 don't decide to put a combo 30.06/30.07 sign up, it won't bother me.

I can understand why businesses don't want open carry in their establishments.

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Because they cave to idiocy? The fear of seeing a gun is irrational. I shouldn't be limited where I want to carry by someone whose feelings MIGHT get hurt by seeing a gun.

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Debating 101: "You're an idiot and irrational for wanting to do business where a 30.07 sign is posted. Let me win you over by explaining why...."

I lie the idea f open carry because packing a weapon on the hip instead of in your pants is always 150% more comfortable. With open carry I can do it and tuck my shirt in s I don't look like a slob.


But....if they are going t limit where I can open carry then it doesn't matter. I prefer owb concealed myself.

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Most of the 30.07 signs you see going up now are in direct response to folks like Fatty and Snowboots, not "internet rumors".

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If i knew who Fatfy and Snowboots were, that may make sime sense. But I don't, and it doesn't.

The signs going up are being put up by people that still think OC will mean gunfights every other minute "because Texas is like the OK Corral". Seriously, that was what was told to me yesterday by a jewelry store owner as to why he decided to put signs up. There was nothing that could be said to him that would have penetrated his thought process.

Hey, its his shop and I cannot blame him for not wanting patrons to carry if that is what he wants. Doesnt mean that his logic is sound though, because it simply is not much like the vast majority of people that speak on the subject despite never actually having any experience living where OC is legal and has been for a great number of years.

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Most of the 30.07 signs you see going up now are in direct response to folks like Fatty and Snowboots, not "internet rumors".

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If i knew who Fatfy and Snowboots were, that may make sime sense. But I don't, and it doesn't.

The signs going up are being put up by people that still think OC will mean gunfights every other minute "because Texas is like the OK Corral". Seriously, that was what was told to me yesterday by a jewelry store owner as to why he decided to put signs up. There was nothing that could be said to him that would have penetrated his thought process.

Hey, its his shop and I cannot blame him for not wanting patrons to carry if that is what he wants. Doesnt mean that his logic is sound though, because it simply is not much like the vast majority of people that speak on the subject despite never actually having any experience living where OC is legal and has been for a great number of years.

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How stiff are the penalties for noncompliance? Is it only the $200 fine or is license revocation still possible?

I am glad to see the signs up. I dont feel safe with those who must be John Wayne or those sovereign citizens walking around with guns. They have no concept of weapons retention.

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I am glad to see the signs up. I dont feel safe with those who must be John Wayne or those sovereign citizens walking around with guns. They have no concept of weapons retention.

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How do you know people who OC have "no concept of weapons retention"?

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Correct I should have been clearer, I meant patrons especially where I'm at.

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You are very clear in your statement, the other poster needs to work on his reading comprehension!

Good to know you make irrational judgments about people you have no clue about.

Must suck to live life like that.

I don't hold it agains a business owner that decidies to put up either/both. It's their establishment, their decision, and I can respect that even if I disagree with it. With me, it is not a reason to take my $$$ elsewhere.

I don't get any heartburn either way. I truly have no intention of walking around with a shoot me first sign on. If businesses don't wan't my $ I am more than happy to support one that will. I keep it tucked and covered so when I need it the only one going to see it will be looking at the wrong end.

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I don't get any heartburn either way. I truly have no intention of walking around with a shoot me first sign on. If businesses don't wan't my $ I am more than happy to support one that will. I keep it tucked and covered so when I need it the only one going to see it will be looking at the wrong end.

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It is a shame so many people repeat ignorant and simply untrue statements.

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I am glad to see the signs up. I dont feel safe with those who must be John Wayne or those sovereign citizens walking around with guns. They have no concept of weapons retention.

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I'm going to let you in on a secret that may ruin your irrational life. You still have to have a license to open carry. So in most scenarios that scary guy that open carrys was most likely already concealed carrying without your knowledge. And somehow everything was OK.

Ignorance must be bliss.

Get out of here with those facts!

Why ruin the fun for people that can't admit that they are afraid of the sight of a gun?