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Sam Houston National Forest WMA?

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M-Neezy
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Has anyone every hunted Sam Houston National Forest WMA? I can't make it to our lease in Llano opening weekend (who has their wedding that weekend, seriously!?!) and was thinking about making a short day trip up there and make it back in time to put on a tie and go watch some guy get hitched.

I have always heard that it is crazy and hunters all over the place, but never from anyone who has actually tried it. Is it even worth making the drive?
BurrOak
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I hunted it for a couple years. I always saw plenty of deer. Yes, and plenty of hunters too. Some areas are really packed with hunters, and some areas arent. If you hike in a ways and get off the beaten path, you will increase your chances. Most of the hunters there are lazy and wont go more than few hundred yards from the road.

A climber stand is pretty much a necessity there.
Towns03
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M,

I was just about to start looking into that. Do you have an idea of where to start walking? is it shotguns only? do people use 4-wheelers?
MouthBQ98
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There are maps. I'd start there, looking at roads.
AZAG08
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From the stories I have heard about the number of hunters out there it would make me really nervous. Of course like others have said most people are lazy and won't walk very far.

good luck
M-Neezy
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I found the map on the TPWD website. You also get a public lands hunting map book when you get your APH permit, which I have not done yet.

There are some walk in points on the map, I will probably show up and check it out, if I run into more than a few people once I get a little ways out I will just have to scratch it and try again at my lease.
M-Neezy
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If anyone is down to meet up on opening weekend to try it out I might be down. Safety in numbers?
Buck Turgidson
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I went once back when I was a high school kid and it was a freaking circus. We scouted during the summer and went out way before dawn to our chosen spots on opening morning. As soon as the sun came up, it sounded like the 5th Ward on Friday night (or Beirut on an average night). There was a random tard with an unsuitable firearm (.38 handguns, shotguns, .22 rifles) about every hundred feet down the trail we took. I don't know what everybody was shooting at, because we saw no deer and saw no hunters dragging deer back.

If you're going to try this, go on a week day and head for the least accessible spot you can find.
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I've heard so many stories similar to what you said which is why I will never hunt on public land where rifles are allowed. Bow only from hear on out for me.
jpc08
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Is the Sam Houston National Forest affected by the government shutdown? Not sure if it falls under the Dept of the Interior...

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Due to the lapse in appropriated funds, all public lands managed by the Interior Department (National Parks, National Wildlife Refuges, Bureau of Land Management facilities, etc.) will be closed. For more information, FAQs, and updates, please visit www.doi.gov/shutdown.
ursusguy
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National Forests fall under the Dept. of Ag.
M-Neezy
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So all of the stories here are the same as what I have heard first hand. They are all either "I went a long time agao and will never go back", or "I knewa guy who said it was bad" type of stories. I am not saying they are wrong in any way, but has anyone had any recent experience? When I lived in California I was very skeptical about hunting public land but had no other choice as I was priced out of any leases there. Once I got there however, I found that it was usually very enjoyable and like others have said, if you go to places that are harder to get to then a lot of times no one else will be there. We found a lot of great hunting areas up there just by walking an extra half hour. Just wondering if anyone has actually tried this in the last few years or so.
Log
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quote:
if you go to places that are harder to get to then a lot of times no one else will be there


This. I should know.
MouthBQ98
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I think it is worth scouting. Maps and a GPS.
BurrOak
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My experience was just from a few years ago. I heard the same thing everyone here is saying about all the orange I would encounter and how unsafe it would be.

But my experience simply wasn't like that at all. Yeah, I ran into other hunters, but everyone was courteous and I never once felt unsafe.

The first year I hunted there, I had a spot scouted out about 1.5 miles from the road, and I was in my tree before it was light on opening morning. I was a pretty nervous that first morning, not knowing what to expect since that was my 1st time ever hunting public land.
As soon as it was light, I had deer all over me, does and some small non-shooter bucks. Ended up getting a doe that morning, and it was the only deer I killed in 2 years out there. I saw LOTS of small non-shooter bucks out there during those 2 years, and only 1 that would've made ARs. But he ran right through my hunting spot before I even had time to react.

The first year, I saw lots of deer and ran into very few hunters. Never once had a moment that made me want to quit hunting there. I found it very enjoyable.

The second year was a little different. We had a brutally dry and hot summer that year, and about the only water in the entire damn forest was Lake Conroe. I hunted closer to the lake, and ended up running into more hunters as a result. Never had a problem with anyone though. You just walk past them and tip your hat as you do. What few people I stopped and talked to were good people.

I never once "had bullets wizzing by me" or "saw a big parade of orange" like I heard I was going to.

It's tough hunting, but that's what public land is all about. If you're completely conditioned to sit over a feeder and expect results, it may not be for you. If you're willing to change your tactics a bit and do some legwork, you can be successful.

And I was just as proud of that doe as any buck I've ever killed.




[This message has been edited by BurrOak (edited 10/7/2013 4:45p).]
AggieGunslinger
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I hunt a lot of public land land. Be willing to get there earlier, walk further and hunt longer and you wont have trouble. Its the norm in lots of other states.
Towns03
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I read something on the TPWD website that said you can only shoot a doe at Sam Houston NP if you have a management tag.

is it too late to get a tag? anyone know?

Log
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http://www.fs.usda.gov/activity/texas/recreation/hunting
BurrOak
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Yeah you have to apply for a doe permit beforehand.

No idea on the dates though. But I would think you still have time.
M-Neezy
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Thanks for the info everybody. That's kinda what I was thinking it would be like. Put in the leg work and you can have a fun and challenging hunt close to the house.
CenterHillAg
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I grew up with the Davy Crockett National Forest on all 4 sides of our land, and our experiences were just as bad as any of the old rumored stories out there. Shooting lanes cut onto our property, multiple cows shot, wildfires from leaving campfires, and hunters wandering onto our land. People would set up their campers in the middle of firelanes, just a general disrespect of the land and the "hicks" living around it.

The guys I knew that went the extra mile to find a good hunting spot did ok. Plenty of doe, never saw any big bucks, but that's nothing out of the ordinary for the area.

OldCamp
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Dealing with other hunters will always be a problem unless you hunt your own land, (then you still have to deal with neighbors)

On public land, hunt weekdays. Find a creek and follow it into the woods away from camps and trails. Sam Houston National Forest is 163,000 acres...you can find solitude if you try hard enough.

Watch out for pot farms.

[This message has been edited by PineTreeAg (edited 10/8/2013 8:44a).]
WildcatAg
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I hunted there many times while I was at A&M. But I was wood duck hunting in creeks. I had one spot that was very productive and provided cover from all the deer hunters (as there are alot of them).
yeahtoast
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I'm going to head that way this year for the first time and plan to spend the majority of the time scouting out places for the coming years. I'm hoping the area I'll be in should be sparsely populated as it's quite a bit off the beaten path of usual SHNF entrances, but I'm not holding onto hope...

Right now I'm making sure to brush up on every law and regulation to make sure I'm completely within legal requirements, as there is quite a lot.
dan87
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Is SHNF close?

If I wanted to go camping this weekend, as in primitive camping, would that be allowed or is the entire forest closed?

The website is still up and I cannot find information about it. Could someone help?
M-Neezy
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I would try calling them, I plan to soon as well. Report back here if you find anything out please. I will do the same.
Live_Flyway_Action
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I called their office: 936-336-9786 to ask about doe tags and its a recording saying the office is closed due to gov shutdown
OldCamp
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If their office is closed then I guess you don't need a doe tag. Just follow the states regulations. Right?
Live_Flyway_Action
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Your guess is as good as mine??? I'm wanting a doe tag for regular season not bow season though.
BurrOak
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I think I read somewhere on another forum that TPWD is stepping in to help with doe tags. Might try calling them.
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