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Would you run??

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Yesterday
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A bear charges a group of tourists on film. Would you stand fast like you're supposed to? I think my ass would have been running and screaming like a little biatch. I'm not going to lie.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/grizzly-bear-charges-alaskan-tourists-video-010559736.html
12th Non-Reg
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It would be hard not to empty 15 rounds of 10mm from a Glock 20 on that.
Yesterday
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Good point, bring the firearm!
MouthBQ98
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It would take everything I had not to, but I know I can do 15mph, and a griz can hit 30, so what's the point in running?
ccard257
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yeah, but what can the grandma with the fancy camera in the seat next to you do?
shiftyandquick
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it's like when Tuna or dolphins start going after the schooling fish--the fish that makes a run for it gets eaten. Your best odds are to stay in the pack and not be the lone guy who runs. Esp. if you are in the back.
ursusguy
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Yes, but I also recognize a bluff charge pretty easily. No, on the running question. Yes, on the standing my ground question.

I'm probably not the best to ask on this.

[This message has been edited by ursusguy (edited 2/29/2012 5:24p).]
TexasRebel
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I don't have to outrun the bear. I just have to outrun you...
ursusguy
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Ok, now that I have had a chance to watch the video, yeah that one would not have bothered me much. Doubt I would have reacted much.
cottonbeltboy
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So, what are the signs to look for when a bear plans on eating me? Am I allowed to run when I see those signs?

[This message has been edited by cottonbeltboy (edited 2/29/2012 5:53p).]
ursusguy
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Quick side glance with a hop, lip curling to one side, doesn't start to raise head as they get closer, straight at you rather than a slight angle.

Keep in mind, incidents like this are not that uncommon. And that is typically the outcome.

At that range, if it is a full charge, chances are you will get hit. From the point you get hit, how you react is up for debate.
Sean98
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I would grab the most frail person I could reach quickly and literally hurl them at the bear.

But I am a selfish *******.
Hoyt Ag
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No on running. Textbook bluff charge. Cool video!
theJonatron
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Knowing tht I'd more than likely be with my wife an kiddo, I'd stand infront and probably **** my pants. I hear pepper spray is smart to take when your out in the woods to deter bears and other predators
TheEyeGuy
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I dont have to outrun the bear, just the slowest guy in the group.
agfan2013
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I hear pepper spray is smart to take when your out in the woods to deter bears and other predators


so is a 30 round clip of 5.56mm, ask me which one makes me feel safer.

but in all seriousness I would have screamed like a little girl if I didnt have a firearm on me.
Hoyt Ag
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I will take pepper spray. Never let me down in the past.

[This message has been edited by Hoyt Ag (edited 2/29/2012 7:50p).]
ursusguy
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Agreed. Works well.
Ulysses90
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMbnmLLnsfw
UnderoosAg
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Sean, that is a completely ignorant response and I'm truly disappointed.



You're supposed to kick them in the kneecap and drop them to the ground so they can't come back and outrun you.
BrazosDog02
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Bring a Glock. Live another day.
Just The Tippet
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If I had survived said bear charge, I know one thing...


I would be throwing away by underpants afterwards.
HCHunter
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Bring a Glock. Live another day.


You know you would just end up shooting yourself with the lack of a safety!!!
shiftyandquick
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where's the youtube of the guy who is being stalked by a bear, and is filming it himself, and he is backing up, then stopping and yelling, and it goes on and on.
Buck Compton
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I know this has been posted, but it would be easier to stand up to a charge than to deal with a bear climbing the tree you are in:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk8pRJ7jV94
EVA3
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Bears appreciate pepper spray, as they find human flesh to be quite bland.
rhtexfish
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So if a bear is on top of you about to make you breakfast, do you fight back or play dead if you don't have a gun, pepper spray, etc?

What about a mountain lion? Or auodad?
Yesterday
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Bears love pepper...they don't like cinnamon.
ursusguy
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rhtexfish, that is sort of species dependent and the nature of the attack. With a black bear, you fight regardless of the nature of the attack (likely predatory or exploratory in nature). Brown bears are a little different. It's more likely to be a defensive issue, in which case you want to be neutralized as quickly as possible, just protect your junk. Keep in mind how they test neutrality, they "rake the genitalia" (not kidding, and I haven't said it on here in several years). If it is predatory in nature, ie you were asleep, you fight with everything available to you.

Mountain lion you fight, and you actually have a pretty high probability of success. I'm not sure where the misinformation that if a mountain lion attacks you it is a forgone conclusion you are dead comes from. Folks have effectively fought off mountain lions most of the time, compared to the alternative.

I know some of yall like to poo poo the pepper spray, but it has been proven to work extremely well. I used to spray them at close range, often with them fairly pissed off, and it worked like a charm.


[This message has been edited by ursusguy (edited 3/1/2012 8:54a).]
Boots over Delaware
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I heard a saying once- if a pine needle falls in the woods, the deer will hear it, the eagle will see it, and the bear will smell it. Pepper spray takes away their most powerful sense.
EFE
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I would have done something like this
Bluto
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CoastGuardAg00
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quote:
Katmai National Park


Sorry, can't take the 5.56!
rhtexfish
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Thanks for the info
kyledr04
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Fight back and try to intimidate a black bear. Play dead if it's a brown bear.

Shoot either if you have to.

I'd probably piss my pants.

[This message has been edited by kyledr04 (edited 3/1/2012 7:58p).]
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