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Of primitive fire building and hunting (long story with pics)

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HuntingGMan
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I took a 4 day run out to the ranch this week. I had three stated goals for the trip… 1) arrow a pig in the dark, 2) arrow a deer in the light, and 3) start a fire with sticks, string, and a knife.

Without the companionship of KC, I think I might have gone stir crazy. Here we are taking a break before coming home this evening.



It rained the first two days I was out there. This made finding dry tinder for my stick and string fire next to impossible. I ended up using shavings from a mesquite log for my tinder. Hindsight, it might not have been a good choice.

I assembled a bow from a live catclaw bush and a length of nylon rope. I initially thought the string should be tight, like an archery bow. As the exercise proceeded, I found that a slightly loose bow was easier to use. For the fire stick, I selected a straight section of a dead catclaw bush, cutting off the claws (on both sticks) to prevent injury and snagging on the bowstring. For the fire plank, I used a section of split mesquite that was laying around the campsite.

Using the knife, I sharpened the bottom of the firestick, smoothed the top of it, and carved out a receiving notch in the fire plank. A second mesquite log was carved out to be used as a bearing surface for the top of the firestick. I later found this bearing to be too rough and replaced it with the top of a coke bottle into which I fitted a small section of an aluminum can for a smooth, hard surface that would not melt from the friction.

Here is what I had to work with…



I had to work at it for a few minutes before I got the hang of spinning the firestick without knotting up the bowstring. There is definitely a technique to it.



I got the firestick and the mesquite to smoke, allowing the embers to fall off onto my tinder. Unfortunately, I was unable to get the tinder to flame up. The firestick burned out the fireplank hole until the point of the stick began dragging on the tinder board.



Maybe next time, I’ll get some dry tinder and a flame.

On my way to the Gorilla treestand this morning, I saw my only deer of the week. Unfortunately, it was an hour before sunrise and all I could see at about 75 yards were two green eyes reflecting from my hatlight. There were no deer arrowed this trip.

Last night, I went out to the Icebox tripod about an hour and a half before last light. I was all set up with a red light mounted on my stabilizer, my night sights, and my homemade lighted nocks. I set up the movie camera just in case the pigs showed up early. Luck was with me. A group of four or five showed up at sunset and proceeded to gorge themselves with corn. After three minutes of adrenaline pumping through my heart, I decided I could take no more. I let loose the lighted nock arrow and caught the whole thing on video. The arrow was a clean pass-through, entering just below center elevation on the pig and passing down through the vitals. The pig ran off and expired in the brush, about 60 yards from the point of impact. Unfortunately, my home computer is down and I can’t transfer the movie. I’ll get it posted once the machine comes back to life.

Knowing that rule number 1 requires a picture for proof, I waited overnight and then through two hours of high humidity (and wet electronics) to get the following still photo this morning. I’m not real good at estimating weight, but I measured from the snout, along the top of the back, to the base of the tail. This pig measured 46 inches by that standard.



Eric Draven
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TexasRebel
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20oz coke: $1
12 aluminum can: $.05 recoverable deposit in selected states
sticks and a short length of nylon rope: worthless...

attempting to start a primative fire on your deck...

priceless...

[This message has been edited by TexasRebel (edited 10/28/2009 8:31p).]
Vero143
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I always love your trip reports. Thanks for the great story. Good bull on the fire attempt.

quote:
homemade lighted nocks

You have my undivided attention in how to create these trinkets.
HuntingGMan
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Vero, I shoot old style aluminum arrows with a cone beneath the nock. I had to trim off the cone and use a modified D6 insert for the basis of the assembly.

I assume that you shoot carbon arrows. The following video is what I used as a starting point for my nocks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMqLT-4ezzk

Of special note is that when you drill out the nocks to recieve the light, do it very quickly -- I used a drill press with a quick down-up cycle. If you let the drill spin too long in the plastic, the nock will melt.

Let the nock and the drill cool down for a few minutes and then do a followup drilling operation to clean up the hole.

If you still have questions after watching the video, let me know.

[This message has been edited by HuntingGMan (edited 10/28/2009 9:20p).]
KALALL
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I tried making a fire that way one time and eventually succeeded. You were smarter than me I see you wore a glove. My hand was rubbed all sorts of raw by the time I was done.
Vero143
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Very cool.

Have you thought about getting a leaf suit anymore? Got a few safety award gift cards to BP and picked this one up last week. Hoping to try it out Monday-Thursday next week while hunting.

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_79131_475002001_475000000_475002000?cmCat=CROSSSELL_SEARCH

[This message has been edited by Vero143 (edited 10/28/2009 9:15p).]
HuntingGMan
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I gave up on the idea of building my own ghillie suit. I hunt year round in South Texas. It's just too hot for a ghillie most of the time.

My nephew got a leaf suit for his birthday last month. Maybe I can get him to let me try it out for him before he gives it any bad habits.
Ted Logan
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your dog takes great pictures
TexasRebel
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quote:
I used a drill press with a quick down-up cycle. If you let the drill spin too long in the plastic, the nock will melt


could you not just slow the bit down?




I knew a kid that made a ghillie suit for his Rock River AR15 in .223
the sleeve protruded about 1/4" past the end of the barrel, and the shockwave tore it apart in about 5 shots.
big ben
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I have a goatee now but I wish I could pull off a mean mustache like yours.
HuntingGMan
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The slowest my press will spin is 690 rpm. That was too fast for an 11 grain plastic nock. But with proper technique, the tool worked great.
HuntingGMan
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I never thought much about the mustache. I started growing it 30 years ago. When I look back at old college pictures, I realize that it was pretty thin back then...

and a lot less gray.
powerbiscuit
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it would be interesting to try to start a fire that way

I wonder if the type of wood you were using or it's moisture content would make a huge difference

I have watched people do it on tv and it didn't look all that hard, but it was a military survival show and I'm sure they had been instructed on how to do it and what type of wood to use beforehand in the classroom
ursusguy
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I like fire bows and have started quite few fires that way. If you really want to have fun, try a fire plow or saw technique.

Anyway, as long as it isn't completely soaked, the friction will functionally dry your spindle and plank. On the tinder, if you have any cattail around, that is one of your best bets. Mesquite can work, but you want the shavings that you can get by barely shaving the wood surface with the blade perpendicular to the wood . You can also try lightly scratching the inside of your plank bowl with the tip of your knife. It won't slow down your drill motion, but will encourage a better ember.---For those that have never tried it. If possible, make your plank a fairly soft word and your spindle something harder.

I can wait to start teaching my son to by a pyro

[This message has been edited by ursusguy (edited 10/28/2009 10:57p).]
Streetfighter 02
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Thick Yucca works like a champ. It's very light and porous. I tried my damndest with one of those swedish fire steel gadgets this summer in Colorado and could not get the fire to start. I had an ember and still couldn't get it to start pine needles. I guess it's because it had been raining.
TX AG 88
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maybe you consider it cheating, but pull some thread/lint off your socks, that'll catch fire!
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