When a deer has a scoreable kicker, say off of his G2, do you also get the circumference of the G2 between its base and the kicker?

What about forked brow tines? How do those score?

The circumference is measured on the main beam between the points, not on the point. Only length is measured on points.

So if the kicker is on the G2, do you also get to add the circumference of the main beam at some point? Like normally, each point has a length you get points for and a circumference you get points for. Does that apply to kickers too? And if so, what circumference do you measure?

No, points have no circ. measurement. There are four circ. measurements: 1. between the base and G1, 2. between the G1 and G2, 3. between the G2 and G3, and 4. between the G3 and G4 or 1/2 way to tip of beam. ( on 8pts or less)

I know, that's exactly what I said. You're not understanding what I'm asking. I know you measure the circumference of the main beam. You get to measure it every time there's a point is what I'm saying. I'm asking what circumference you measure, if any, when a kicker is present on a point.

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And I've always thought that on an 8 pointer, you only measure 3 circumferences on each side. I hadn't heard of measuring the circumference half way to the tip. If so, all of the bucks of scored will get an additional 4 or 5 points I guess.

Obviously I do not understand your question. A kicker has nothing at all to do with any circ. measurement, because there are no circ. measerements made on the points, only length. All a kicker will do is add a few inches to your gross score. They are very good looking on a set of horns, though. IMHO

That was my question- how do you add your kicker to your score? If you have a two inch kicker, does it just add two inches and nothing else?

Thanks for the heads up on measuring the circumference halfway to the tip of the main beam. I had never done that, so I have underscored our deer. I'm retarded.

In the case of a forked tine, make the first measurement of the longest point and the second point or split will be added like a kicker.

Yes, a two inch kicker will add 2" to your gross score. Did you take one with some kickers?

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I know, that's exactly what I said. You're not understanding what I'm asking. I know you measure the circumference of the main beam. You get to measure it every time there's a point is what I'm saying. I'm asking what circumference you measure, if any, when a kicker is present on a point.

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There is no "extra" measurement other than the "point" itself. If you have a 2 inch kicker on your G2 you get 2 inches added to your gross score. If you have a fork that is 5 inches it adds exactly 5 inches to gross score.

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I know, that's exactly what I said. You're not understanding what I'm asking. I know you measure the circumference of the main beam. You get to measure it every time there's a point is what I'm saying. I'm asking what circumference you measure, if any, when a kicker is present on a point.

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There is no "extra" measurement other than the "point" itself. If you have a 2 inch kicker on your G2 you get 2 inches added to your gross score. If you have a fork that is 5 inches it adds exactly 5 inches to gross score.

No, but I saw one. Let it grow another year or two though because it was also starting to grow a G4 on one side, so I figure he has some development left in him. We just started scoring deer this year so I'm still trying to learn how to get a good read on what they will score when they are standing 100 yards away.

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Be very conservative when you do that. You don't want to be known as "that dude that f-ed up".

Oh I am... last year I made the mistake of shooting a buck that I was then quite disappointed with. I've hunted my whole life but at our ranch, we've seriously never had quality bucks until the last year or two, so I never had much experience determining what was mature and what wasn't. Now we're feeding protein and managing things and we've seen the difference. It used to be, every few years you see a decent 8, and you'd shoot it, because you never saw them. But looking back, they would score maybe 100 but no higher. Now we have a much better situation. Now that we have bagged a couple 120 class deer, and our hunters have taken some 140+'s that I've had the chance to look at, I am getting a better idea of what kind of spread and what kind of tine length will be necessary to score well.

I tell you what, the combination of protein and record rainfall this year has completely transformed our deer population.