Cutting the cord

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tmas
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With more options on AppleTV, I'm thinking about cutting the cord. But what can I get with Internet only versus a cable subscription. Currently I have Uverse and would likely keep AT&T Internet.

WatchESPN?
Disney?

LostInLA07
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No but you could get HBO.
Dro07
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can you get WatchEspn without a cable subscription without using someone else's info?
LostInLA07
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Not currently. You can get it with SlingTV though.
Ark03
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With more options on AppleTV, I'm thinking about cutting the cord. But what can I get with Internet only versus a cable subscription. Currently I have Uverse and would likely keep AT&T Internet.

WatchESPN?
Disney?


I cut the cord about a month ago. I have a Roku, already had Netflix, Amazon Prime, and Plex for various reasons, and I get a lot of my content there.

You absolutely can't (legally) get Disney and ESPN without cable. But, some Disney content is available through Amazon Prime and Netflix, and a bunch more is available to buy on demand.

However, you can get SlingTV, which is a quasi-cable service offered through DishNetwork and streamable through your Apple TV for another $20/month, which includes ESPN, ESPN2, and Disney. For another $5, you can get a "Sports Extra" lineup which includes the SEC Network.
Vernada
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Cut the cord this weekend.

Got a TiVo Roamio and HD antenna. Getting all network TV + Netflix + Amazon Prime. Roamio can also quickly connect to YouTube.
LostInLA07
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Does Tivo have a SlingTV app?

It would be awesome if they could add SlingTV and integrate it with their DVR.
PatAg
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Isn't this more like trading one cord for a slightly smaller cord?
LostInLA07
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It's cord reduction. 2 to 1.
Ark03
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Cut the cord this weekend.

Got a TiVo Roamio and HD antenna. Getting all network TV + Netflix + Amazon Prime. Roamio can also quickly connect to YouTube.

I have an antenna in the attic and got a channelmaster DVR with a 2 tb hard drive. It comes with a free guide and works great.
Vernada
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Well first night fail. All weekend Fox was coming in strong. We sit down to watch tonight and it was skipping all the time.

I'll have to brave the attic tomorrow to tweak the antenna a bit.
Vernada
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What kind of antenna?
chipotle
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Tablo
Usb hard drive
DIY antenna- http://www.diytvantennas.com/sbgh.php

Never looking back
Ark03
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What kind of antenna?

I'm not sure - it's an amplified indoor/outdoor antenna, maybe RCA. I'd have to go into the attic to be sure. I went to Fry's and bought what they had for about $40 and plugged it into my existing coax that was routed through the attic for my TVs. I live in Lewisville, and the only DFW station I'm aware of that I don't get crystal clear is KERA (PBS). It's broadcasting from the same location as CBS (which I get fine), at about 35 miles away as the crow flies. However, KERA transmits at a much weaker signal, at 475 kW, vs CBS at 1000 kW. As it is, I get over 60 channels when you include all the various iterations of each (ie 4.1, 4.2. 4.3, 5.1, 5.2, etc).

I looked at the instructions chipotle posted a few weeks ago and really want to build one, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I'll go that route and see if it's any better.
Ark03
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Well first night fail. All weekend Fox was coming in strong. We sit down to watch tonight and it was skipping all the time.

I'll have to brave the attic tomorrow to tweak the antenna a bit.
Make sure all your connections are tight and that you don't have anything plugged into the coax splitters that doesn't need to be. In my case, I used the existing coax in the attic plug my antenna into. The splitter had about 4 more lines of coax coming off of it that goes to various connections in other rooms in my house that I don't have a TV in. My antenna signal was weak for CBS when I first set it up, but then I unscrewed all the extraneous coax and tightened up existing connections and I haven't had a problem since (other than KERA, which I never did get).
Vernada
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I tweaked the location a bit and made sure all the connections were tight. Everything appears to be ok now. *fingers crossed*

I did try plugging in TV #2 to a splitter that I'm using to connect antenna to home coax and it killed the whole thing! So, no splitter for me.
Vernada
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Still having trouble with consistent reception on Fox. Doesn't really make sense since all the station signals are in a straight line from me and I'm getting all others fine.
Ark03
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I tweaked the location a bit and made sure all the connections were tight. Everything appears to be ok now. *fingers crossed*

I did try plugging in TV #2 to a splitter that I'm using to connect antenna to home coax and it killed the whole thing! So, no splitter for me.


What antenna do you have?

I have this antenna, but don't buy it from this link; I got it a lot cheaper. http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00GL7I0HG/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1436923364&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SY200_QL40&keywords=rca+ant800r&dpPl=1&dpID=31xVa-TuQ8L&ref=plSrch

That said, your problem could be any one of a lot of problems. Maybe you are getting uhf well and not vhf, or vice versa. What city/station are you trying to get? There are websites where you can put in your location and they will tell you what antenna you need for particular stations.

I've heard great things about several of the diy yourself versions; that's my next project.
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As far as the splitter, did you try an amplified splitter? If not, try that and see if it helps. If you just use a normal splitter, you're going to have a good deal of signal loss and it may be leading to what you're seeing.

If you have long runs, you might want to try to amplify the signal even without a splitter.
Vernada
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As far as the splitter, did you try an amplified splitter? If not, try that and see if it helps. If you just use a normal splitter, you're going to have a good deal of signal loss and it may be leading to what you're seeing.

If you have long runs, you might want to try to amplify the signal even without a splitter.
I have an Amazon Basics 35 mile HD Antenna (indoor - mounted in attic).

I have been looking at getting this amplified to see if it will help.

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F28DP2?colid=Z3TNOTLUGZYR&coliid=I1F32XZADD1D40&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

According to the signal strength meter I am close-to-good. But it slips under the 40 mark periodically which is when it starts cutting out.
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Tablo
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DIY antenna- http://www.diytvantennas.com/sbgh.php

Never looking back
Chipotle, do you use the reflector with the DIY antenna? I'm wondering how directional that would make the antenna - I'm aiming for channels in about a 90 degree arc, and I'm wondering if I'd be better off with or without the reflector.
Ark03
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As far as the splitter, did you try an amplified splitter? If not, try that and see if it helps. If you just use a normal splitter, you're going to have a good deal of signal loss and it may be leading to what you're seeing.

If you have long runs, you might want to try to amplify the signal even without a splitter.
I have an Amazon Basics 35 mile HD Antenna (indoor - mounted in attic).

I have been looking at getting this amplified to see if it will help.

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F28DP2?colid=Z3TNOTLUGZYR&coliid=I1F32XZADD1D40&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

According to the signal strength meter I am close-to-good. But it slips under the 40 mark periodically which is when it starts cutting out.
I checked my signal meter last night, and on my fox station (channel 4 in DFW), my signal strength is about 25 (out of 100), but it comes in fine. Do you have anything else with a tuner in it that you can try? Maybe if you are using the tuner in your TV, you can try a tuner in a DVR or your receiver, if it has one. If not, do you have any other antenna around your house you can try, even rabbit ears, to see if that makes a difference?

Here's a list of easy DIY antennas - for the first on the list, literally all you need is a coat hanger and a balun.

Edit because I forgot the link: http://www.diytvantennas.com/index.php
getme
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is pluto.tv legit or illegal?
Ark03
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is pluto.tv legit or illegal?

I think it's legal - most channels are YouTube-isk content.
chipotle
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Tablo
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DIY antenna- http://www.diytvantennas.com/sbgh.php

Never looking back
Chipotle, do you use the reflector with the DIY antenna? I'm wondering how directional that would make the antenna - I'm aiming for channels in about a 90 degree arc, and I'm wondering if I'd be better off with or without the reflector.
I was going to build the reflector then I decided to test that portion out I had built. When I got a majority of the channels I was supposed to get I figured why waste the time and effort building out the rest. Reception was good. Channels were plentiful. Done.
SF2004
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Every time I look at cutting cable with all the subscriptions you have to buy it costs almost just as much and is way more hassle.

Also, if you cut cable and "borrow" or straight steal streams than you aren't really cutting cable. Just leeching.
Ark03
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Every time I look at cutting cable with all the subscriptions you have to buy it costs almost just as much and is way more hassle.

Also, if you cut cable and "borrow" or straight steal streams than you aren't really cutting cable. Just leeching.
It just depends on what you want to watch. I cut cable and am paying on average $75 less per month than I was before, net of all on-demand/extra content we are buying now. And no, I don't steal or "borrow" any content. During football season, I could turn on SlingTV and with the sports add-on package, I could watch the SEC network and still be paying $50/month less than I was with cable. That said, I doubt we'll turn it for much of the season. Last year we didn't watch that many games at home anyway.

However, that works well for us because we don't really watch premium channels, and we've been able to find plenty of the cable content we wanted from services we already had (ie Netflix).

As far as it being more hassle, once we figured out where to find content and planned out the transition, our life is no different than when we had cable - it wasn't much different than switching to a different cable provider.

It comes down to a math problem - in my situation, the difference is $75/month, and the bit of research I did to figure out how to transition was worth the savings.
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It comes down to a math problem - in my situation, the difference is $75/month, and the bit of research I did to figure out how to transition was worth the savings.


Is it really $75 if you have to go out on weekends to watch games? If you go out you buy food, drinks, gas etc...its a serious question not trying to be difficult because i have thought many times about cutting the cord.
Ark03
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It comes down to a math problem - in my situation, the difference is $75/month, and the bit of research I did to figure out how to transition was worth the savings.


Is it really $75 if you have to go out on weekends to watch games? If you go out you buy food, drinks, gas etc...its a serious question not trying to be difficult because i have thought many times about cutting the cord.

It is if I was going out to games anyway... I don't really drink, and I like to watch games with friends, so an evening out to watch a game isn't all that much.
Ark03
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As far as the splitter, did you try an amplified splitter? If not, try that and see if it helps. If you just use a normal splitter, you're going to have a good deal of signal loss and it may be leading to what you're seeing.

If you have long runs, you might want to try to amplify the signal even without a splitter.
I have an Amazon Basics 35 mile HD Antenna (indoor - mounted in attic).

I have been looking at getting this amplified to see if it will help.

http://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B000F28DP2?colid=Z3TNOTLUGZYR&coliid=I1F32XZADD1D40&psc=1&ref_=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl

According to the signal strength meter I am close-to-good. But it slips under the 40 mark periodically which is when it starts cutting out.
I checked my signal meter last night, and on my fox station (channel 4 in DFW), my signal strength is about 25 (out of 100), but it comes in fine. Do you have anything else with a tuner in it that you can try? Maybe if you are using the tuner in your TV, you can try a tuner in a DVR or your receiver, if it has one. If not, do you have any other antenna around your house you can try, even rabbit ears, to see if that makes a difference?

Here's a list of easy DIY antennas - for the first on the list, literally all you need is a coat hanger and a balun.

Edit because I forgot the link: http://www.diytvantennas.com/index.php

So apparently I'm an idiot. This thread got me thinking about trying a different antenna so I could get our local pbs affiliate before my wife starts thinking about the new season of Downtown Abbey. I had put the antenna amplifier on the coax as it is going into my tuner, and I realized I was trying to boost a crappy signal after it went through lots of old coax.

I just moved the amplifier to the attic, and my pbs signal went from about 0 to 72. Channel 4 went from a signal strength of 25 to 100. So, I don't think I have a reason to try the diy antenna. I get every dfw channel I know of from my house in Lewisville now that the amplifier is in the right place.
SwigAg11
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I'm about to be a father in October so I was definitely thinking of something else when I opened this thread.
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