Jason Witten

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Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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i dont wanna hear anymore about him being an unheralded 'lunch pale guy'.

once again good for an untimely penalty tonight..and a couple of bad routes run, and then of course the fumble before the half.

he's overated simply put.

cue posters living in 2007 chiming in to tell me i have it all wrong..and that he works so hard.
friend of cheese
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he's overated simply put.
Sloppy penalties, fumbles, dropsies. I love the guy, but you beat me to it.
ORAggieFan
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He was a fantasy stud for me thought.
Ag Natural
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Most overrated player on the Cowboys, period. No doubt about it. If he doesn't catch the ball running full speed then he's about as dangerous as a pillow in a gun fight.
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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i wonder if the Cowboys got ANY trade offers for Witten at the deadline.
PooDoo
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Yeah, take Witten off the roster and this team is Superbowl bound.
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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where did anyone say that?

i think the point is that he makes a lot of dumbass plays..but never gets called out by the media or even by fans much. seems to always be above the criticism.
Judge
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Couldn't agree more.
Ulrich
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He's living on the ability he used to have... Witten jumped the shark last year. This year it's getting sad.
MSCAg
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More and more, I think its time to place our bets with Tellus this year and then that Phillips kid.



We could probably get a decent draft pick or o-linemen for Witten.
Ulrich
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This is why the Cowboys should have traded Witten two years ago like I told them to. He was worth a lot more then.
Doug Christie
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some would say he's a hall of famer, right now.
Danger Mouse
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1. I agree that Witten is highly OR and the Cowboy's should trade him.

2. And "some" would be wrong. It is the Hall of Fame, not the Hall of Good.

3. There are two present TEs who will make it in the HOF: Tony Gonzales and Antonio Gates.

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friend of cheese
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Yeah, take Witten off the roster and this team is Superbowl bound.
That has NOTHING to do with the point.
Gone
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On the false start, half the line moved. It was clearly on Kitna and them not being used to his calls. Can't blame JW for that one.
Ag Natural
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Witten being a potential HOFer has nothing to do with his current performance.
Griffle
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So overrated with 9 catches for 95 yards and a TD. That is his first fumble of the year "GASP".

Mistakes happen, every player makes them. You guys are finding a scape goat and magnifying the issue everytime a mistake happens. Let's try an exercise...everytime that Witten does something good, note it (and if you are going to note bad routes, then note the good ones). We all know you note the bad. Add them up and compare.
Gone
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Witten is a beast. He is not what's wrong with this team.

[This message has been edited by Sea Bass (edited 10/26/2010 1:39p).]
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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Mistakes happen, every player makes them. You guys are finding a scape goat and magnifying the issue everytime a mistake happens. Let's try an exercise...everytime that Witten does something good, note it (and if you are going to note bad routes, then note the good ones). We all know you note the bad. Add them up and compare.


he has been making 'under the radar' mistakes for 3 years now actually. not sure how many of you listen to Norm post game but he does this "5 hidden plays that changed the game" thing and at least once outta every 2 losses he cites Witten or something negative Witten did yet he's never actually gone off on Witten.

Witten is good for at a very minimum of one penalty per game which often halts some sort of momentum, he's also been good for a few balls hitting him in the hands and goin up in the air for an INT, and some bad routes.

and why should anyone give him credit for running good routes? thats his job and he gets paid well for it and he doesn't even do it that well a lot of the times.

again, nobody is saying Witten is THE problem...we are saying that he always seems to escape criticism, and that he is responsible for a lot of negative plays over the last few years.

if the Cowboys are able to get a 4th rounder for him next offseason they should jump on it. his best days are behind him, and some dumbass team out there might be willing to give up a good draft pick for him based on his past rep.
Jimmy Conway
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If his name wasn't Jason Witten, Cowboys fans would dislike him a whole lot more than they seem to now. A player with a different name, making as many miscues as he does week in and week out would be roasted by fans and media alike. He is the most penalized player on the Cowboys current roster and its not even close.
birdman
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Witten is about the 15th biggest problem on the Cowboys. But he is good indicator of the type of team this year. Seems like he's committed one big error per game. More shocking are the plays were he seems to halfass it.

Despite the drops or penalties, he's still one of the better tightends in the league. He's still a pretty good blockeer and good receiver. Certainly, enough to make up for the shortcomings. Cowboys would be stupid to trade him for anything less than decent 2nd rounder. You aren't going to find his replacement in the 4th round.
Ag Natural
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Witten is a good TE in every aspect. I think on a good team he'd be a valuable asset. But he shouldn't be the focal point of an offense. I think one of Romo's major flaws has been his reliance on his best buddy when his best buddy isn't good enough to carry him.

I dont think you could justify trading him. But I still think he's overrated. It reminds me of Emmitt in his last 5 years in Dallas. Every game the announcers would say, it's time for Emmitt to take the team on his back. The problem was he just wasn't good enough to do that anymore and any attempt to make him act like the Emmitt of '93 was a recipe for failure.
Orlando Ayala Cant Read
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birdman,

while i agree with you on him being down the list on our problems...we can agree to disagree on his value. his value is what other teams are willing to pay for him as far as i'm concerned. i dont believe a team out there would give up a 2nd for him. there might be a couple of teams willing to part with a 3rd, but most teams would not go higher than a 4th.

as far as his replacement value..again..i just dont think he's as good as some Cowboys fans want to believe. those days are over.
PooDoo
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8 years in the NFL and Witten's lost 3 fumbles.

I was at the game and didn't see the replay but it looked like it was pretty close to being blown down with about 5 Giants piling.

Yeah, if you can get something better than Witten in return... take it. That goes for just about every player on the roster. Maybe a fullback that can pass block.

birdman
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Anthony Fassano and Ayodele were traded to the Dolphins for a 4th rounder. Ayodele was just a throw-in special teams guy.

Witten is still alot better than Fassano. And Cowboys would get alot better than 4th rounder for him.
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