Shipley...

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thirty-two
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Just received a nasty cheap shot. Hope he's okay, it did not look good.
tifire85
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Can't see that game here...what happened? At almost the exact same time that happened, Mike Goodson just took a nasty facemask and he was on the ground for a long time.
WN AG
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Yeah, MG got turned all the way around... Nasty!
W
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just saw the replay for the first time. No doubt that was a cheap shot. Dirty play with the forearm shiver. DB might get suspended
jr15aggie
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Yeah, I saw the Goodson facemask... BRUTAL! Not intentional cause you can't get your fingers off a guys mask once they are hooked in by accident. Scary deal!
TxAginAz
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Deion on NFL Network thought the shipley hit was clean because the DB used his shoulder not a forearm. I did too. shipley finally has to play guys is own age. I expect more of the same and for him to be out of the league in sooner than later.

I didn't see the MG deal. I didn't know he was getting any PT. I hope he is okay.

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Doug Christie
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shipley finally has to play guys is own age. I expect more of the same and for him to be out of the league in sooner than later.


what exactly does this mean? he got a concussion...how does his age have anything to do with it? fwiw, he's been pretty effective as a 3rd WR, avg'ing about 40-50 yds a game. not a world-beater, but a 3rd round pick isn't expected to be.
Diet Cokehead
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That Shipley hit was brutal. It hurt me just to watch.
Charles Bronson
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i dont give a sh*t if that was with the shoulder, that was dirty.
AgPediRPh
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How's it any different from the "great hit" that Philly put on Reggie Bush?
TxAginAz
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Well, no one gives chit if you give a chit or not. It's the way of the world.

And my quoted section was self explanatory.

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Doug Christie
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No, it simply makes no sense.
TxAginAz
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Sorry bud, I can't dumb it down anymore for ya.

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Doug Christie
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a person's ability to be or not be concussed has little to do with a player's toughness and whether he's playing with guys his own age or younger. this example has absolutely nothing to do with whether he can play with guys his own age or older. your logic is faulty, plain and simple.
Christian Pulisic FanBoy
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It's interesting to see the emotional maturity of most of you.
TxAginAz
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No, you are just a ma-ma-moron, Simple Jack.

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Doug Christie
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Jugstore Cowboy
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No, you are just a ma-ma-moron, Simple Jack


It amazes me that people actually take the time to post stuff like this.
Whistling For Flies
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Cheap shot?

I don't understand football these days. Have you people even watched the video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfoPYpC4pyY&feature=player_embedded

The DB is trying to prevent a TD. He hits him hard with his shoulder. He does NOT lead with his head. I don't even understand why it was a penalty.

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Christian Pulisic FanBoy
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He lead with his head and followed with his shoulder.
Gus
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dirty
Iowaggie
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Didn't think it was a dirty play. The DB does launch himself into Shipley and tries to strike him with his shoulder. I'm not sure what else a defender is supposed to do in the case where the receiver is falling forward and leading with their helmet.
TxAginAz
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aggro, do shiny pinwheels and shaking car keys still amaze you too?

This thread reveals those who squat to pee and those that bang the prom queen.


Oh, and some of you need to lightened up, Francis.


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mts6175
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When are they going to just start putting players in those giant padded sumo suits and let them go at it?

Gay, that wasn't a cheap shot. The dude was trying to make a play, and sometimes, that requires hitting the other player.....
StupidisMe
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I don't think it was dirty, as it looks like he was trying to lead with his shoulder. However, it was helmet-to-helmet, and the flag was the correct call.

Here is a good photo from the Youtube link:





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Christian Pulisic FanBoy
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So, if he was trying to tackle him, why didn't he wrap?

And doesn't this also go into "defensless receiver?"

Cheapshot, whether it's with the shoulder or the helmet.
TxAginAz
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Because the DB was trying to separate the ball from the WR by putting his shoulder into the chest of the WR so it would not be a TD.

That's called Wrecking Crew D Football 101.



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Jugstore Cowboy
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This thread reveals those who squat to pee and those that bang the prom queen.


And those who still wear their high school letter jackets.
Christian Pulisic FanBoy
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The rule for the defenseless receiver applies.
BMX Bandit
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i thought it only applied to a receiver that had dropped the ball. shipley had the ball when he got hit.

either way, word is there is a $15k fine
TxAginAz
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You still wear your HS letter jacket! lol!

(Happy Gilmore reference.)



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AgPediRPh
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Does the hit violate the new "defenseless receiver" rule of the NFL? Yes. Was it cheap and dirty? Nope.
StupidisMe
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Some good **** here:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/nfl-hits-browns-safety-t-j-ward-with-fine-968052.html?showComments=true

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For delivering a nasty blow to an opponent's head, the NFL belted the Browns' rookie safety in the wallet.

Ward, who in just four games as a pro has developed a reputation as a ferocious tackler and fearless talker, was fined $15,000 Wednesday for his helmet-to-helmet hit on Cincinnati wide receiver Jordan Shipley during the fourth quarter of the Browns' win on Sunday.


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The Bengals weren't pleased and following the game, both Palmer and wide receiver Terrell Owens accused Ward of a dirty play.

"I just hate to see a guy get hit like that in the head," Owens said. "For him to take a cheap shot like that, that's uncalled for."

Browns coach Eric Mangini defended Ward, saying it was an aggressive play — nothing more.

Owens countered with a personal shot at Mangini.

"Look who it's coming from," Owens told Bengals teammate Chad Ochocinco in an interview on VERSUS in advance of the premiere of the "The T.Ocho Show." ''Probably 90 percent of his players don't like him (Mangini) anyway. "I don't like him. We got to see him again anyway, so we'll see who's going to do some cheap shots next game.

"Hit me like that."

StupidisMe
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Two more crazy quotes:

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Ward was aware that Mike Pereira, former NFL vice president of officiating, said in an interview with the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the league should fine the 23-year-old a minimum of $25,000 for a hit he described as "one of the worst I've seen in a while."


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Not surprisingly, the Browns didn't have any issues with Ward's big hit. If anyone of them had a right to be upset, it's rookie quarterback Colt McCoy. Shipley was McCoy's teammate at Texas and the best man at his wedding. But even he didn't think Ward's hit was beyond reason.

"It's a violent sport," McCoy said. "We all know that there's gonna be contact. Nobody ever wants to get hurt, and nobody ever wants to hurt anybody. It was a good hit. Jordan knows. He's played receiver his whole life. There's a chance that when you go across the middle, that you're gonna have to take a big shot, a big lick, and he got one."

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