Industrial Distribution

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houstonag27
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Could someone give me insight to this major? From my understanding its like a combination of Engineering and Business.

What can one do with the degree?

What are the job prospects?

I was researching ID on the tamu website, but I would like to hear from someone who has experienced it first hand. Thank you for your time.
superspeck
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I can't speak to TAMU's ID program.

I have a degree that is in the ID field (Logistics and Supply Chain Management) from a school in the Pacific NW. The study is basically that of business operations -- how to make a business operate effectively, efficiently, and set and meet goals.

Starting out post college is difficult for most of the people I graduated with. Historically, the people that work in operations fields have started out on the shop floor and worked their way up, and people with degrees but no experience don't get a kind reception. This was starting to change, but slowly when I graduated ten years ago. It will continue to change as the older workforce retires.

Back on the other hand, it gives you the mental toolset to figure out just about any business system that involves moving things from A to B. It gives you the tools to analyze the before and the after and explain it in both engineering terms and financial terms. Personally, I work in IT. I use the capacity planning knowledge from the textbook I used in school ten years ago to plan capacity for certain IT systems. The math is all the same, and the nature of using formal logic in business environments is the same. Often, you end up having to straddle all of the different "silos" that businesses form internally. You get goals from finance people, you get timeline and needs from marketing and customer service, and you get constraints from the actual shop floor (or implementation teams.) One aspect of the job that an ID/SCM person does, at a higher level, involves going between the different departments and making sure that they understand everyone else. It's a useful skill to have and a useful role to have been in regardless of industry.

My sister graduated from the same program I did and now works as a buyer for Williams Sonoma. She decided that she wanted to work in fashion buying, and worked her butt off for five years before she got real traction. Ten years after graduation, we are both in relatively demanding jobs, but we're also making very decent money for anyone in any program. For several years, we both made more than my fiancée, who is a full on engineer with a master's and a PE, although that may be due to cost of living.

Industry-wise, here in Texas I could see myself quitting IT in a few years and going into O&G or managing building projects. Things that people with SCM or ID degrees are suited for include, as previously stated, operations management, purchasing and buying, shipping and transportation, handling the legalities of shipping and the UCC (more important and fussier than you think...), project management on both large scale (capital improvement projects) and small (shop floor jobs), PRODUCT management (which is what sometimes the go-between-silos role I mentioned is called but this is usually handled by people with more marketing experience), and related roles that nominally fall under IT and Sales. Sound broad? It is. That's part of the problem that people have starting out.

TAMU's ID program, from what I heard, is better than the one I went through because it's got a larger engineering component. There's more math and formal logic. Besides the "how to talk to people in other specialties" classes, math was actually the most useful part of the degree I got. The second most useful part, and what actually pushed me towards IT, was an elective that involved implementing and programming a small ERP package developed in MS Access. (Development = Coding the raw software, which we didn't do. Implementing = customizing it for our needs. Programming = Putting in our Bill of Materials and making it do interesting work. Obviously not something I'd use in a real job, but it was incredibly illuminating to see how complicated these things are and how fast a single bad entry can make a mess.)

If you think you might be excited about this field, go read The Goal. If that sort of problem solving sounds exciting to you, then you should pursue ID. If it seems like a pain in the ass and that you're reading someone else's religious moment but not actually catching the holy spirit yourself, then go find a different field to study. It's worth it to buy a copy; I would give you about a 75% chance that you'll end up having to read it for a class.
superspeck
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BTW: I don't read this forum that often (I mis-clicked into here and saw your question) so I probably won't remember to look for follow-up questions. I've the same username on Reddit, and you can PM me over there.
Ulrich
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I graduated from TAMU's ID department in 2010. spec is about 50/50 on his comments. I'm just going to tell the story my way without doing a line by line analysis of his post, but be aware that where we conflict I'm more likely to be correct.

What does the ID program teach?
It is a combination of business and technical skills. I say technical rather than engineering because it's much more focused on specific applications than fundamental principles. The business side is focused on how to run a distributor, which means a lot of emphasis on inventory, warehousing, purchasing, and supply chain relationship management. The technical side tends to focus on industries that the big departmental donors are involved in like electrical components and power transmission. There are some broadly focused classes in materials, manufacturing, IT, and the like. There is also a very good sales class.

How hard is ID?
Compared to engineering, it's not very hard at all. I (like many) transferred into ID well into my college career. They have made math 151 and 152 mandatory for ID, and those will be your two most difficult classes by far.

How do they teach?
There are tons of group projects and presentations. You'll get a field visit to a real distributor that will serve as the starting point for a semester-long project. There weren't a ton of fantastic lecturers while I was there, but there were some good ones and some with good class participation. The labs are pretty easy and there aren't too many.

What are the students like?
This may have changed since the addition of the math classes to the curriculum, but when I graduated we had lots of smart and/or dedicated students, but there was definitely a contingent who were perhaps less diligent and qualified.

What is employment like for TAMU ID grads?
Very, very good. The ID program has a lot of corporate sponsors, donors, and recruiters involved. They have their own career fairs, and those have a lot of companies present; when I was graduating, there were more companies than graduates. You can also attend the more general engineering career fair, which is actually where I found my eventual job. Lots of opportunities for internships and even some for research. I had several offers when I graduated as did most of my colleagues. Employment rate tends to be at or near 100%; basically, every few years a person can't find a job. At least, that was the atmosphere when I graduated. The money is good. Not PETE money, but good.

What do ID grads do?
ID grads tend to go in two major directions. One is technical sales for distributors, the other is operations. Operations typically means working on warehouse/logistics management for a distributor or in the logistics side of any company from O&G to electrical to retail. I had interviews with several distributors, a couple O&G companies, Amazon.com, and more. You can really end up doing almost anything though. I ended up in IT and my classmates did everything from consulting to the aforementioned technical sales.

What is ID's reputation?
Depends on who you ask. Among "real" engineering students at TAMU, not very good. Engineering lite is kind of the theme. As you may have gathered from the employment discussion, however, it is very good in the corporate world. The practical nature of the classes means that you can hit the ground running right out of the gate with useful knowledge and good expectations for what work will be like.


If you have specific questions please post them.


[This message has been edited by Ulrich (edited 1/24/2014 3:10p).]
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