NYT: Dems in Alaska Conspired to Stack the Ballot

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This has to be a first for the NYT: the paper has a lengthy, exclusive story on how people associated with the Dem candidate for Senate in Alaska worked for months to create a ballot that would deceive voters and siphon votes away from the current Republican senator.

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In the summer of 2025, a staffer for Mary Peltola, the Alaska Democrat who was eyeing a run for Senate, received unusual instructions from top campaign aides: Find as many people named Dan Sullivan in Alaska as you can.

The staffer complied, combing through voter records to produce a list of Dan Sullivans from across the state.
This was no random request. Dan S. Sullivan is the name of the state's Republican senator. And if the Peltola campaign or its allies could track down and persuade another Dan Sullivan to run for Senate, the confusion could cost the senator crucial votes on the state's unusual, four-person ballot.

The plan worked. This spring, a retired teacher from a tiny fishing village along the Alaska Panhandle, reachable only by air and sea, announced his candidacy for Senate. His name was Dan J. Sullivan.

The Peltola campaign has repeatedly denied any involvement in his candidacy.

But The Times has found, based on interviews and text messages, along with documents prepared for a potential lawsuit against the campaign, that not only did Ms. Peltola's team work with people trying to recruit Mr. Sullivan to run for Senate, but the effort was much broader. The group worked to coax other would-be spoilers into the race, to dilute the incumbent's support and help catapult the Democrat to victory.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/10/28/us/politics/alaska-dan-sullivan-conspiracy-peltola.html



In the '70s Democrats called such actions "dirty tricks" and sent Republicans to jail for doing them.
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Probably just means the DOJ is about 1 year ahead of them and they are CYA'ing
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Gee, the Democrats cheating and acting like authoritarians. The only thing that shocks me about this is that the NYT reported on it. Good for them for doing so.
Ellis Wyatt
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And as in Texas, the leftist in Alaska is being funded by California and New York radicals.
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Big Al 1992
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But but but Republicans are a "threat to democracy" and there must be "no kings".
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Where are the posters that didn't buy what I was saying earlier this week in the "Meaning of Incumbent" thread?

I'm not going to...Actually, scratch that.
I TOLD YOU SO!
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Democrats cheating in elections is the least surprising thing you'll ever read.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Yep, if it was not a crime it needs to be. Unless you Eddie Murphy.

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YouBet said:

Gee, the Democrats cheating and acting like authoritarians. The only thing that shocks me about this is that the NYT reported on it. Good for them for doing so.

The only thing is that Democrats "cheating" is not news.
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If this is allowed to go forward I would expect that this would become a common practice. How many Ted Cruz's are there in Texas ?? ? How many John Kennedy's are there in Louisiana ? ?

What really bothers me is how many Dems/Libs are completely fine with trying to fool so many voters into voting for the wrong candidate.
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Dems have no shame. No qualms about opening any Pandora's box to get power over people who don't want them.
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Just goes to show Democrats only want Congress critters obedient to the party and nothing else matters.
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No ****, nyt. Did they ever think in was a random coincidence?
Who?mikejones!
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Doesnt really work in states that have traditional primaries. Works in Alaska because of ranked choice bull****
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Whatever it takes. That's the way they think. And these are people who have no morals to begin with, so what do you expect? That's why I don't feel guilty about false flag trans flyers or gerrymandering. You can bet they're doing much, much worse.
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Of course they conspired to lie, cheat, and steal.

Communists deny right and wrong. The communist "has convinced himself that nothing is evil which answers the call of expediency" (The Naked Communist).

Yet, we are tired of the failings of conservatives, Republican representatives/candidates, and Trump???

We're not playing the same game.
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From a purely political move, this is genius. I don't know if it's ethical or moral or whatever, but if it's not illegal, again, being purely objective, this is bringing a gun to a knife fight.

Can our resident attorneys chime in if something like this actually breaks any laws? Cause if it does, people need to go to jail.
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No Spin Ag said:

From a purely political move, this is genius. I don't know if it's ethical or moral or whatever, but if it's not illegal, again, being purely objective, this is bringing a gun to a knife fight.

Can our resident attorneys chime in if something like this actually breaks any laws? Cause if it does, people need to go to jail.


A dude got 2 years in prison for posting a fake link to vote. As a joke.

This is voter suppression. Yes. Its illegal.
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Silent For Too Long said:

No Spin Ag said:

From a purely political move, this is genius. I don't know if it's ethical or moral or whatever, but if it's not illegal, again, being purely objective, this is bringing a gun to a knife fight.

Can our resident attorneys chime in if something like this actually breaks any laws? Cause if it does, people need to go to jail.


A dude got 2 years in prison for posting a fake link to vote. As a joke.

This is voter suppression. Yes. Its illegal.

That would be my non legal understanding of the legality.

Having a dude with the same name run would not be against the law. Scouring the state, posing under false aliases in order identify someone willing to not just run but to coordinate with the others to get on the ballot and "pretend" to be a legit candidate becomes more problematic.

Continuing to have the two campaigns coordinate to further the ruse is even worse.

Folks need to go prison.
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PCC_80 said:

If this is allowed to go forward I would expect that this would become a common practice. How many Ted Cruz's are there in Texas ?? ? How many John Kennedy's are there in Louisiana ? ?

What really bothers me is how many Dems/Libs are completely fine with trying to fool so many voters into voting for the wrong candidate.

Notice how the resident dems stay away from these threads. They don't condemn such actions as long as it's their party doing it. At the same time, they don't want to come on here applauding this move and outing themselves as a pos.
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No Spin Ag
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Silent For Too Long said:

No Spin Ag said:

From a purely political move, this is genius. I don't know if it's ethical or moral or whatever, but if it's not illegal, again, being purely objective, this is bringing a gun to a knife fight.

Can our resident attorneys chime in if something like this actually breaks any laws? Cause if it does, people need to go to jail.


A dude got 2 years in prison for posting a fake link to vote. As a joke.

This is voter suppression. Yes. Its illegal.


I can see how it could be seen as voter suppression, though all anyone needs to do is see the word "incumbent" to know who is who.

Still, I did just see that the new Dan switched from republican to undeclared, so that should end all of this.

Still, I agree that the DOJ should look into this, to at least make sure it's never done again if truly illegal, or if not, then we'll know to be on the look out in the future, where I'm sure both sides will do it
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Rapier108
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Democrats will use fair means or foul, mostly foul, to win election. When one has no morals, then there is nothing wrong with lying, cheating, or worse to win elections.

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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No Spin Ag said:

Silent For Too Long said:

No Spin Ag said:

From a purely political move, this is genius. I don't know if it's ethical or moral or whatever, but if it's not illegal, again, being purely objective, this is bringing a gun to a knife fight.

Can our resident attorneys chime in if something like this actually breaks any laws? Cause if it does, people need to go to jail.


A dude got 2 years in prison for posting a fake link to vote. As a joke.

This is voter suppression. Yes. Its illegal.


I can see how it could be seen as voter suppression, though all anyone needs to do is see the word "incumbent" to know who is who.

Still, I did just see that the new Dan switched from republican to undeclared, so that should end all of this.

Still, I agree that the DOJ should look into this, to at least make sure it's never done again if truly illegal, or if not, then we'll know to be on the look out in the future, where I'm sure both sides will do it

I don't think you'll see Republicans doing it. Republicans have a higher moral standard. Dems even recognize this. Occasionally, on rare occasion, you'll see some unethical Republican do something stupid. Dems will be the first to yell, "See! See! Where's your high standards now!?"
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It's a trick done to fool voters. That's all that matters. It is anti-democratic.
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Rapier108 said:

Democrats will use fair means or foul, mostly foul, to win election. When one has no morals, then there is nothing wrong with lying, cheating, or worse to win elections.



This. Ole Harry laughed in the face of the American people after lying to them. They pulled out this play on Trump, too. Had a sip bud moan about Trump not paying his taxes. Had to help him pull his head out of his arse.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

It's a trick done to fool voters. That's all that matters. It is anti-democratic.

Well in the spirit of Lula. Here is your crime. These actions, from time, money, coordination, etc. clearly represent in kind contributions. Those types of contributions are required to be reported to the FEC. That wasn't done.

That means that they have knowingly made false statements to the FEC. Not only that they participated in a conspiracy to not disclose these to a Federal Agency. That means you could create a case, much more solid than the ones thrown at Trump btw, that they violated 18 USC 371 and 18 USC 1001.

Each instance could be 5 years and a $25k fine. Day after the election the FBI should be raiding their offices to be honest.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

It's a trick done to fool voters. That's all that matters. It is anti-democratic.


Agreed, but is it illegal? That's all that matters at the end of the day when it comes to politics.

Morals, ethics, etc have been so far thrown out of politics that unless it's not illegal, almost anything seems fair game now.
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Ellis Wyatt
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I'm not aware of this ever being done. It's disgusting. There is no defending it. It's one step away from telling everyone who they'll be voting for.
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No Spin Ag said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

It's a trick done to fool voters. That's all that matters. It is anti-democratic.


Agreed, but is it illegal? That's all that matters at the end of the day when it comes to politics.

Morals, ethics, etc have been so far thrown out of politics that unless it's not illegal, almost anything seems fair game now.

The intent is what matters here along with the conspiracy. Danny J doing it all his own to be funny is more like the Eddie Murphy movie.

The Peloto campaign being at the center of this and there being another org involved and a person canvassing the list of Dan Sullivans then meeting with them under assumed names becomes problematic.

This would not be fair game as the intent was there to deceive voters, which is voter suppression.

No need to spin it.
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Of course this is a form of voter suppression. Actually two forms. One is promoting 3rd party candidates to siphon votes from your opponent. The other is using deliberately misleadingly named candidates. Both have gone on in the past. However, with a two party system, primaries, ballot access hurdles, and a gatekeeping MSM this hasn't been much of a problem.

Now, I suspect the Establishment types and their allies like the NYT recognize this is likely to be used against them eventually. So, they may be trying to get out ahead of this.

I guess things could get weirder if people are willing to change their names and pay influencers. How does the college vote break in a 2028 race of Newsome vs Vance vs Free Palestine vs Donald F. Trump vs Boaty McBoatFace?

With the MSM no longer the only meaningful forum for advertising, there is all kinds of potential for social media campaigning to cause chaos. Especially amongst a Nihilistic subculture.

Imagine the Tik Toks.
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Who?mikejones! said:

Doesnt really work in states that have traditional primaries. Works in Alaska because of ranked choice bull****

They could probably also run as an Independent or a member of some obscue party. Just having 2 candidates with the same name can cause enough confusion to siphon off a couple of thousand votes.
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Still have pissing on his grave on my bucket list…
AgNav93
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MouthBQ98 said:

Still have pissing on his grave on my bucket list…

Get in line.
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AgNav93 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Still have pissing on his grave on my bucket list…

Get in line.

The number of graves I am to piss on keeps increasing, and arsholes like Carter take forever to die. My concern now is not the line but whether I can generate enough piss to make the rounds.
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Dirty tricks are a thing in American politics going back to revolutionary times, and in politics in general going back as far as we have records. I don't really spite the Democrats for this one, but I'm glad this was confirmed by their own propagandists before election day. I am sure the NYT only did this because otherwise it was going to come out somewhere else.

Meanwhile, democrats such as KBTX Rusty are still feigning outrage about the source of the 'trans kids flyer' that was mailed to Texans. (Which had nothing dishonest in it).

ETA: Jimmy Carter, McCain and Harry Reid are on my list too, if I think I can get away with it.
 
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