Is this a concern? I don't know enough about the science to understand all the implications but from I do understand, the oceans heating up probably isn't a good thing.

Continuing its voyage into uncharted waters, the latest preliminary Nino 3.4 sea-surface temperature anomaly is now at a record 3.08°C above the 1991-2020 baseline.

Models expect the Nino 3.4 anomaly to continue rising into at least mid-November. Then there will be dragons. pic.twitter.com/Tfy3yBAeTF

— Prof. Eliot Jacobson (@EliotJacobson) September 22, 2026

Chris is awesome. Crazy he's gen Z. He is far ahead of the curve from his peers.

Bull Meachem said:

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Is this a concern? I don't know enough about the science to understand all the implications but from I do understand, the oceans heating up probably isn't a good thing.

Continuing its voyage into uncharted waters, the latest preliminary Nino 3.4 sea-surface temperature anomaly is now at a record 3.08°C above the 1991-2020 baseline.

Models expect the Nino 3.4 anomaly to continue rising into at least mid-November. Then there will be dragons. pic.twitter.com/Tfy3yBAeTF

— Prof. Eliot Jacobson (@EliotJacobson) September 22, 2026

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Sea surface temps are a terrible data source to use for measuring accurate ocean temps due to light refraction off the surface.

Need to see a data set using sub surface temps (collected from buoys).

TBF, the lack of Atlantic hurricanes is not a lack of hurricanes and does not disprove their earlier assertion (though I do disagree with them). There are 2 months left in the season, and this has already been an above average year in the Pacific, with 18 named storms and 8 hurricanes, with 5 of those being major hurricanes of cat 4+. There are area s being watched now that will likely turn into named storms or hurricanes soon.

The lack of Atlantic hurricanes is probably due to a very strong El Nino, which typically inhibits Atlantic hurricane formation. How historic this El Nino is and what it can be attributed to are up for debate, but if their position is that it is caused by global warming, their assertions are not contradictory.

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TBF, the lack of Atlantic hurricanes is not a lack of hurricanes and does not disprove their earlier assertion (though I do disagree with them). There are 2 months left in the season, and this has already been an above average year in the Pacific, with 18 named storms and 8 hurricanes, with 5 of those being major hurricanes of cat 4+. There are area s being watched now that will likely turn into named storms or hurricanes soon.

The lack of Atlantic hurricanes is probably due to a very strong El Nino, which typically inhibits Atlantic hurricane formation. How historic this El Nino is and what it can be attributed to are up for debate, but if their position is that it is caused by global warming, their assertions are not contradictory.

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El Nino also enhances the Eastern Pacific hurricane season.

Democracy dies from hoaxes.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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TBF, the lack of Atlantic hurricanes is not a lack of hurricanes and does not disprove their earlier assertion (though I do disagree with them). There are 2 months left in the season, and this has already been an above average year in the Pacific, with 18 named storms and 8 hurricanes, with 5 of those being major hurricanes of cat 4+. There are area s being watched now that will likely turn into named storms or hurricanes soon.

The lack of Atlantic hurricanes is probably due to a very strong El Nino, which typically inhibits Atlantic hurricane formation. How historic this El Nino is and what it can be attributed to are up for debate, but if their position is that it is caused by global warming, their assertions are not contradictory.

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El Nino also enhances the Eastern Pacific hurricane season.

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And this being an historic El Niño is not up for debate either. It is what it is.

Though most will say the true measure of impact will be what we see over the next few months.

Global warming seems to be the trend these days as well and based on historical record. Given that record predates man, the absolute here is that none of what we are seeing has been caused by man, at worst just barely maybe slightly smidgingly from time to time influenced by man… just a bit but not much.

It's why data centers and AI are what is going to kill us tomorrow. That and gas prices.

These claims will require additional research to validate them. This will require additional research funding.
Once you realize it's all about that, then these claims become understandable, even expected.

The two articles are literally discussing Atlantic hurricanes.

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Rapier108 said:

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The El Niño-Southern Oscillation is a normal ocean cycle which has been occurring for millions of years. Some studies say perhaps as long as 250 million.

It long predates anything we lowly humans could ever do to affect the climate.

Some years are strong, others are weak, and others nothing happens.

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We should do like the pre-Inca folks and sacrifice our children in order to please the climate gods anytime El Niño flared up and ruined fishing and guano production. Seemed to work out for them.

Or is that basically what the Dems are asking us to do now?

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Anything that allows the Dems to kill kids is ok with them...

Logos Stick said:

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Yes, the fact that any weather event or change can be blamed on global warming is a concern. A big one.

If you put a suspected witch in the water and she floats, she's indeed a witch.
If you put a suspected witch in the water and she doesn't float, she's indeed a witch.


That's where climate change LOLscience is right now!

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Churches!
Very small rocks!

Science and more specifically climate science is not to be played out and controlled in politics. Is gravity and relativity political? No.

Why climate?

ABattJudd said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Yes, the fact that any weather event or change can be blamed on global warming is a concern. A big one.

If you put a suspected witch in the water and she floats, she's indeed a witch.
If you put a suspected witch in the water and she doesn't float, she's indeed a witch.


That's where climate change LOLscience is right now!

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Churches!
Very small rocks!

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I got better...

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Science and more specifically climate science is not to be played out and controlled in politics. Is gravity and relativity political? No.

Why climate?

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If I'm guessing, it's because IF we can prove man-made global warming, policy will be needed to reverse it.

Bull Meachem said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Science and more specifically climate science is not to be played out and controlled in politics. Is gravity and relativity political? No.

Why climate?

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If I'm guessing, it's because IF we can prove man-made global warming, policy will be needed to reverse it.

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That's my point, politics has already "proved it" for far too many.

All weather phenomenon is proof of man made climate change, you silly goose. It does not matter if you can show within the historical record that such events have occurred in the past.

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Bull Meachem said:

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Is this a concern? I don't know enough about the science to understand all the implications but from I do understand, the oceans heating up probably isn't a good thing.

Continuing its voyage into uncharted waters, the latest preliminary Nino 3.4 sea-surface temperature anomaly is now at a record 3.08°C above the 1991-2020 baseline.

Models expect the Nino 3.4 anomaly to continue rising into at least mid-November. Then there will be dragons. pic.twitter.com/Tfy3yBAeTF

— Prof. Eliot Jacobson (@EliotJacobson) September 22, 2026

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Sea surface temps are a terrible data source to use for measuring accurate ocean temps due to light refraction off the surface.

Need to see a data set using sub surface temps (collected from buoys).

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So back to science... They have been measuring sea temperatures, predicted an El Nino, which are known to stifle hurricane development in the gulf and atlantic, and that is what happened.

TexAgs91 said:

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StrickAggie06 said:

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Bull Meachem said:

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Is this a concern? I don't know enough about the science to understand all the implications but from I do understand, the oceans heating up probably isn't a good thing.

Continuing its voyage into uncharted waters, the latest preliminary Nino 3.4 sea-surface temperature anomaly is now at a record 3.08°C above the 1991-2020 baseline.

Models expect the Nino 3.4 anomaly to continue rising into at least mid-November. Then there will be dragons. pic.twitter.com/Tfy3yBAeTF

— Prof. Eliot Jacobson (@EliotJacobson) September 22, 2026

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Sea surface temps are a terrible data source to use for measuring accurate ocean temps due to light refraction off the surface.

Need to see a data set using sub surface temps (collected from buoys).

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So back to science... They have been measuring sea temperatures, predicted an El Nino, which are known to stifle hurricane development in the gulf and atlantic, and that is what happened.

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And there's a natural ebb and flow of that phenomenon.

Rapier108 said:

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The El Niño-Southern Oscillation is a normal ocean cycle which has been occurring for millions of years. Some studies say perhaps as long as 250 million.

It long predates anything we lowly humans could ever do to affect the climate.

Some years are strong, others are weak, and others nothing happens.

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El Niño years are also historically the weakest Atlantic hurricane years due to wind shear. So talking about a weak hurricane year in the Atlantic is just a discussion about the strong El Niño. It doesn't mean anything else.

For human originated activities to cause catastrophic global warming it would have to approach something of this scale… and would still take tens of thousands of years.



And I've got a sneaking suspicion we'll manage to remove ourselves from the equation one way or another long before that happens.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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StrickAggie06 said:

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Bull Meachem said:

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Is this a concern? I don't know enough about the science to understand all the implications but from I do understand, the oceans heating up probably isn't a good thing.

Continuing its voyage into uncharted waters, the latest preliminary Nino 3.4 sea-surface temperature anomaly is now at a record 3.08°C above the 1991-2020 baseline.

Models expect the Nino 3.4 anomaly to continue rising into at least mid-November. Then there will be dragons. pic.twitter.com/Tfy3yBAeTF

— Prof. Eliot Jacobson (@EliotJacobson) September 22, 2026

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Sea surface temps are a terrible data source to use for measuring accurate ocean temps due to light refraction off the surface.

Need to see a data set using sub surface temps (collected from buoys).

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So back to science... They have been measuring sea temperatures, predicted an El Nino, which are known to stifle hurricane development in the gulf and atlantic, and that is what happened.

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And there's a natural ebb and flow of that phenomenon.

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Yes it's a natural phenomenon. Happy? I never said it wasn't.

It's kind of silly to say they haven't measured sea temperatures correctly if they were able to make an accurate prediction.

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one safe place said:

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That is why it is hard to take the pencil necked geeks in lab coats, high water pants, and pocket protectors seriously. Global warming causes hotter temps, colder temps, more snow, less snow, stronger thunderstorms, weaker thunderstorms, more hurricanes, fewer hurricanes, stronger hurricanes, weaker hurricanes, floods and droughts, more tornados, fewer tornados, etc. Global warming causes it all.

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Yep, everything that happens proves their theory. That's exactly how I learned the scientific method.

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Science is never wrong.

Ag4life80 said:

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These claims will require additional research to validate them. This will require additional research funding.
Once you realize it's all about that, then these claims become understandable, even expected.

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I worked with groundwater modelers on large scale aquifers. They ALWAYS want more data, more monitoring points and tweak boundary conditions to match the observations. As you state, dollars driving the end result.