A&M System (Victoria): Staff exodus due to on-site expectations

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https://www.insidehighered.com/news/faculty/2026/08/25/faculty-quit-texas-university-orders-them-back-campus

Basically a bunch of faculty are quitting because they are expected (by law) to be on site 5 days a week.

It's their right to quit, but way to leave university students in a bind.
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Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.

I remember that the campus used to be UHV, a university system that is based around commuting for the most part. Trying to change the culture in one year is not gonna go well.
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Sounds like they were already leaving their students in a bind. You can conclude when people don't care about those they serve.
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twelve12twelve said:

Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.


Hey now, Victoria is a great place to live.

Way better than living in Houston.
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Tramp96 said:

twelve12twelve said:

Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.


Hey now, Victoria is a great place to live.

Way better than living in Houston.

Yeah, if you like the one broke down putt putt course. I think there is a mall too. Big time.
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New sheriff in town….. I am sure A&M is not gonna keep doing what UH was doing….cuz it wasn't working….
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If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.
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Probably mostly land manatees.
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Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.re

requiring professors to actually be in class the horror.
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Tramp96 said:

twelve12twelve said:

Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.


Hey now, Victoria is a great place to live.

Way better than living in Houston.


I have no idea whether Victoria is an armpit, but I know Houston is a cesspool.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?
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Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?


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There's one woman who just had a baby who quit because she said, 'I just can't do this. I can't be away from my child.' We have people who are taking care of elderly relatives, and there's just no way they can do that and be on the road for four hours a day."

Also, this made me laugh.
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VegasAg86 said:

Tramp96 said:

twelve12twelve said:

Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.


Hey now, Victoria is a great place to live.

Way better than living in Houston.


I have no idea whether Victoria is an armpit, but I know Houston is a cesspool.

what city do you live in?
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Texas A&M University-Victoria is beginning a new chapter, but the standard is already clear. The Texas A&M University System holds its faculty and employees to high expectations, and A&M-Victoria will rise to meet them," the statement read. "The university has communicated with faculty for more than a year about teaching loads and the importance of maintaining a meaningful campus presence. These expectations are consistent with Senate Bill 2615, other applicable state law and A&M System policy. This is ultimately about students. A&M-Victoria is welcoming a freshman class 23 percent larger than last year's. Those students should find an active, vibrant campus and educators who are dedicated to their profession, engaged with their colleagues and invested in student success."

These also gave them a year notice.....
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twelve12twelve said:

Tramp96 said:

twelve12twelve said:

Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.


Hey now, Victoria is a great place to live.

Way better than living in Houston.

Yeah, if you like the one broke down putt putt course. I think there is a mall too. Big time.

Putt putt? Those still exist?

How about 30 minutes to the coast for saltwater fishing and activities, ample freshwater fishing with nearby lakes and rivers, less than a 2 hour drive to Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and Corpus. AWESOME Symphony. Tons of history and culture.

Now, I will admit, once Hungry Jacks closed down it lost some appeal, but it still has some great local dining.

But anyone who calls Victoria an armpit is just being willfully ignorant.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?


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There's one woman who just had a baby who quit because she said, 'I just can't do this. I can't be away from my child.' We have people who are taking care of elderly relatives, and there's just no way they can do that and be on the road for four hours a day."

Also, this made me laugh.

People don't want to work 7-7 and get paid for 40 hours, surprise surprise. When the option is move to Victoria or quit, it's obvious which path makes sense.
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Tramp96 said:

twelve12twelve said:

Tramp96 said:

twelve12twelve said:

Seems like the school should have not hired so many people from the Houston area. Wait, you mean to tell me people don't want to live in the armpit that is Victoria? That's unpossible.


Hey now, Victoria is a great place to live.

Way better than living in Houston.

Yeah, if you like the one broke down putt putt course. I think there is a mall too. Big time.

Putt putt? Those still exist?

How about 30 minutes to the coast for saltwater fishing and activities, ample freshwater fishing with nearby lakes and rivers, less than a 2 hour drive to Houston, Austin, San Antonio, and Corpus. AWESOME Symphony. Tons of history and culture.

Now, I will admit, once Hungry Jacks closed down it lost some appeal, but it still has some great local dining.

But anyone who calls Victoria an armpit is just being willfully ignorant.

It's an armpit. Move to Ingleside or Rockport for better fishing.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?



Wasn't said or inferred, but you'll probably miscomprehend this post also so this will be my last to you. Feel free to have the last word against the strawman in your head.
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Seems a simple way to "manage out" staff that are easily replaceable with cheaper options
Nobody cares. Work Harder
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I love Victoria….but the Home Depot men's restroom has had issues….
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.re

requiring professors to actually be in class the horror.

What professor has 8 hrs of class from 0800-1700 every day of the week?
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Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?



Wasn't said or inferred, but you'll probably miscomprehend this post also so this will be my last to you. Feel free to have the last word against the strawman in your head.

presented with facts and you cry..move along.
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Ag with kids said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.re

requiring professors to actually be in class the horror.

What professor has 8 hrs of class from 0800-1700 every day of the week?

take it up with the A&M system.....
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It's their right to quit, but way to leave university students in a bind.

They don't' care about the students they are just flat out lazy want a job on their terms, doesn't work like that in the real world.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

Ag with kids said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.re

requiring professors to actually be in class the horror.

What professor has 8 hrs of class from 0800-1700 every day of the week?

take it up with the A&M system.....

I work for the A&M system...

But, I'm exempt from this.
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Ag with kids said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.re

requiring professors to actually be in class the horror.

What professor has 8 hrs of class from 0800-1700 every day of the week?

They don't, but it helps to weed out the ones working remotely.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

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Texas A&M University-Victoria is beginning a new chapter, but the standard is already clear. The Texas A&M University System holds its faculty and employees to high expectations, and A&M-Victoria will rise to meet them," the statement read. "The university has communicated with faculty for more than a year about teaching loads and the importance of maintaining a meaningful campus presence. These expectations are consistent with Senate Bill 2615, other applicable state law and A&M System policy. This is ultimately about students. A&M-Victoria is welcoming a freshman class 23 percent larger than last year's. Those students should find an active, vibrant campus and educators who are dedicated to their profession, engaged with their colleagues and invested in student success."

These also gave them a year notice.....


So they all milked the Texas tax payers for an additional year of wages with no intention of actually working. Typical university employee...drain on society.
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HaroldShipmanAg said:

Ag with kids said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.re

requiring professors to actually be in class the horror.

What professor has 8 hrs of class from 0800-1700 every day of the week?

take it up with the A&M system.....

But, seriously...they probably have, what, maybe 9-10 hrs of instruction a week.

So, they're not in "class" that other 30 hrs...

And, it's not the A&M system that did this, it's the Texas legislature...A&M is just following the law.
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95 Buzzbait said:

I love Victoria….but the Home Depot men's restroom has had issues….


I still go back to read that post when I want to die laughing.
BonfireNerd04
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Employees having to be at their workplace 5 days a week? The way literally everyone did until 2020? How horrible!
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Victoria was a complete and total Charlie Foxtrot which is why it was put under TAMUS.

If the employees can't hack it, or don't want to work, good riddance.
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twelve12twelve said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?


Quote:

There's one woman who just had a baby who quit because she said, 'I just can't do this. I can't be away from my child.' We have people who are taking care of elderly relatives, and there's just no way they can do that and be on the road for four hours a day."

Also, this made me laugh.

People don't want to work 7-7 and get paid for 40 hours, surprise surprise. When the option is move to Victoria or quit, it's obvious which path makes sense.

Where do you get 7 to 7? 8am to 5pm is what the article states. Everybody that goes to work has drive time, you don't get to count that as part of your working hours. I've had drive times from 8 minutes one way to close to 3 hours one way, just depended on where the jobsite was and what traffic was like. It's part of being an adult and working.

Also, a little tidbit that seems to have been ignored - professors could request to work from home as long as they did it in writing 2 weeks prior to the semester starting. I'm betting a whole lot of them failed to do something as simple as that and found themselves stuck in a corner that they walked themselves into.
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schmellba99 said:

twelve12twelve said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?


Quote:

There's one woman who just had a baby who quit because she said, 'I just can't do this. I can't be away from my child.' We have people who are taking care of elderly relatives, and there's just no way they can do that and be on the road for four hours a day."

Also, this made me laugh.

People don't want to work 7-7 and get paid for 40 hours, surprise surprise. When the option is move to Victoria or quit, it's obvious which path makes sense.

Where do you get 7 to 7? 8am to 5pm is what the article states. Everybody that goes to work has drive time, you don't get to count that as part of your working hours. I've had drive times from 8 minutes one way to close to 3 hours one way, just depended on where the jobsite was and what traffic was like. It's part of being an adult and working.

Also, a little tidbit that seems to have been ignored - professors could request to work from home as long as they did it in writing 2 weeks prior to the semester starting.
I'm betting a whole lot of them failed to do something as simple as that and found themselves stuck in a corner that they walked themselves into.

SB 2615

Where do you see this in the law?
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As someone who has daughters in college currently, these online classes are a joke and cost more than an in person class.
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schmellba99 said:

twelve12twelve said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

HaroldShipmanAg said:

Rubicante said:

If they've been allowed to work remotely from other cities for years, giving them barely a month's notice that remote work is no longer allowed and they are expected to work in Victoria full-time seems to be inviting chaos.

dont like it quit....people are killing for jobs these days they will easily be replaced.


I mean them quitting is the subject matter of the post so… yea?

you think its un-reasonable for University to want its professors in class physically?


Quote:

There's one woman who just had a baby who quit because she said, 'I just can't do this. I can't be away from my child.' We have people who are taking care of elderly relatives, and there's just no way they can do that and be on the road for four hours a day."

Also, this made me laugh.

People don't want to work 7-7 and get paid for 40 hours, surprise surprise. When the option is move to Victoria or quit, it's obvious which path makes sense.

Where do you get 7 to 7? 8am to 5pm is what the article states. Everybody that goes to work has drive time, you don't get to count that as part of your working hours. I've had drive times from 8 minutes one way to close to 3 hours one way, just depended on where the jobsite was and what traffic was like. It's part of being an adult and working.

Also, a little tidbit that seems to have been ignored - professors could request to work from home as long as they did it in writing 2 weeks prior to the semester starting. I'm betting a whole lot of them failed to do something as simple as that and found themselves stuck in a corner that they walked themselves into.

They live in houston. 2 hour drive time. RTFA.
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