The MAMDANI Act from Chip Roy

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Sounds great from what I can tell. If I had to wager I'd bet it doesn't go anywhere, but it's good that he introduced it and you know we'll see the normal hilarious reactions from the dirty leftists.

I plan to vote for him as AG in the primary. I love stuff like this.


MAMDANI Act

Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) on Monday introduced an immigration bill he dubbed the "MAMDANI Act."

The Measures Against Marxism's Dangerous Adherents and Noxious Islamists Act proposes amending the Immigration and Nationality Act, which dictates federal immigration law, to allow for the deportation, denaturalization, denial of citizenship or entry to any migrant that is a member of a socialist party, communist party, the Chinese Communist Party or Islamic fundamentalist party.

It also proposes imposing such restrictions on any migrant who "advocates" for socialism, communism, Marxism or Islamic fundamentalism, a sweeping term that includes "writing, districting, circulating, printing, displaying, possessing, or publishing any written, electronic, or printed matter" in support of those ideologies, according to the bill's text.

The acronym for the bill is a reference to New York City Mayor Zohran Mamdani (D), a democratic socialist who was born in Uganda and moved to the city as a child. Mamdani, who is Muslim, became a naturalized U.S. citizen in 2018.

The Hill has reached out to Mamdani's office for comment.

ULTRA MAGA
Ellis Wyatt
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John Cornyn thinks this is gauche.

BusterAg
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McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.
Gaw617
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You don't need a new law for this. The government is free to revoke visa's or green cards for just about anything.
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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

Agree. But more and more idiots are being created by dumbing down of education and constant berating of our government, sprinkled with free dependence goodies that said idiots dont want to go away.
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but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

good thing this bill does not outlaw any school of thought.

The law already says this:


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Any immigrant who is or has been a member of or affiliated with the Communist or any other totalitarian party (or subdivision or affiliate thereof), domestic or foreign, is inadmissible.

no reason not to specify it applies to these others as well
Im Gipper
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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.


This Bill does NOT apply to Americans or prevent Americans from doing anything!!!

I'm Gipper
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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

There are some schools of thought like socialism that are completely at odds with what this country is about. You can allow alternate schools of thought like socialism, or you can have the 19th Amendment, but not both, unless you're done with America.
No, I don't care what CNN or Miss NOW said this time
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AgFan1974
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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

I agree, most do. That said... the threat is real. Look no further than the EU (or NY, NJ, CA). So, how do you preserve those freedoms without preserving those freedoms? Some of those "schools of thought" would immediately throw those principles you reference in the shredder, given the chance.

It is not an easy problem to work out.
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AgFan1974 said:

I agree, most do. That said... the threat is real. Look no further than the EU (or NY, NJ, CA). So, how do you preserve those freedoms without preserving those freedoms? Some of those "schools of thought" would immediately throw those principles you reference in the shredder, given the chance.

It is not an easy problem to work out.


'And someone said, 'It is not an easy problem to work out'. Therefore, we better just ignore it and hope it goes away. So many Americans simply have no survival instinct!
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lagoag
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Personally I like this bill. I'd love to see it pass. Look no farther than all the Muslims who immigrated here and are wanting us to bend to their laws and won't try and assimilate to the American ways. We need to do something or we'll end up just like the UK.
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lagoag said:

Personally I like this bill. I'd love to see it pass. Look no farther than all the Muslims who immigrated here and are wanting us to bend to their laws and won't try and assimilate to the American ways. We need to do something or we'll end up just like the UK.


France says hold my beer

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Lots of naive people who want to win battles but will end up losing the war.

The point to keep in mind is that Muslims use perfectly legal means to gain control and take over a country. They win from within. Using the constitution against the locals. They bring in advantages of oil money and funding from Arabia to bribe local politicians to push and push and push the line until the line becomes normal.

Watch out. Don't be naive.
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It's an interesting thought exercise.

We have freedom of thought/opinion/religion, in this country.

But what if that freedom allows an ideal to take over, which is diametrically opposed to freedom?

We shouldn't protect that freedom from such ideals?
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AgGrad99 said:


It's an interesting thought exercise.

We have freedom of thought/opinion/religion, in this country.

But what if that freedom allows an ideal to take over, which is diametrically opposed to freedom?

We shouldn't protect that freedom from such ideals?

we protect americans' right to have such ideas.



we don't need to import people with them.
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Approved. When you come here, please check your failed ideologies at the door.
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flyrancher said:

AgFan1974 said:

I agree, most do. That said... the threat is real. Look no further than the EU (or NY, NJ, CA). So, how do you preserve those freedoms without preserving those freedoms? Some of those "schools of thought" would immediately throw those principles you reference in the shredder, given the chance.

It is not an easy problem to work out.


'And someone said, 'It is not an easy problem to work out'. Therefore, we better just ignore it and hope it goes away. So many Americans simply have no survival instinct!

Im sure some do say that but, it was not me. The tone of my comment was opposite of that. My point was reducing it to "this is what freedom gets you" is far too simplistic and does not recognize the complexity of addressing the problem which, must be addressed.
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BMX Bandit said:

AgGrad99 said:


It's an interesting thought exercise.

We have freedom of thought/opinion/religion, in this country.

But what if that freedom allows an ideal to take over, which is diametrically opposed to freedom?

We shouldn't protect that freedom from such ideals?

we protect americans' right to have such ideas.



we don't need to import people with them.

Spot on. And, this bill also gives us the ability to export the one's we've already imported.
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The Measures Against Marxism's Dangerous Adherents and Noxious Islamists Act proposes amending the Immigration and Nationality Act, which dictates federal immigration law, to allow for the deportation, denaturalization, denial of citizenship or entry to any migrant that is a member of a socialist party, communist party, the Chinese Communist Party or Islamic fundamentalist party.

That will be more problematical after they have been granted citizenship.
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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.


Nope. You've been indoctrinated. Our country was not founded on the principal that you could be a Torrey or a communist or a subversive if you want to be.

That is a hippy boomer legacy.
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Unfortunately government FUNDS these sick ideologies within our school systems. Your tax dollars are funding the moral decay.
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Liberal democrats are not the brightest bulbs in the box.

They dredge in millions of immigrants to import for their political power greed and don't realize those people are taking over/consuming their party, thereby turning it into a treasonous entity. Its support of Iran in the present conflict, in conjunction with the liberal media, can only classified as treason to our country and constitution.
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Nope. You've been indoctrinated. Our country was not founded on the principal that you could be a Torrey or a communist or a subversive if you want to be.

After the Revolutionary War, that was a murky subject as they considered themselves subjects to the Crown and not American citizens. But they could pledge their allegiance and become American citizens and keep their lands unless they had personally taken up arms.

Even back then, due process was applied. See John Adams' defense of British soldiers involved in the Boston Massacre, for example.
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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

There is a difference between "schools of thought" and instituting communist or socialist policies and trying to change the core of this nation.

Anyone that thinks that isn't happening is putting their head deep in the sand.

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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

It stuns me that people put a blue star on that post as it pertains to the subject of this thread.
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Even if (or when) this fails, I'm for all for anything that shines a spotlight on the threat.

The left is very good at normalizing ideas that subvert the country. We need to be just as vigilant at opposing those ideas.
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It ain't about bad religion, although we know it is but just can't say it. It's about bad citizenship. Real bad citizenship. Deport them all.

As a purely theoretical example. What if it was 1937 and EVERY Lutheran church in German heritage towns in Central Texas was posting banners of Hitler, holding Nazi meetings, and making life miserable for others. Supporting the rise of Nazi Germany and spitting out vile antisemetic puke. Would we have deported them? Should we have deported them? Would we have shut down Lutheran churches because of it? By Jan42 I think it would have happened.

Not talking about the internment of Nisei, that was a racial injustice. Not 'religious'. Not to sidetrack the premise.

In reality there were a relatively few home grown America Nazis during that period, but they not related to a religious institution. Islam is different. Not a 'religion' but more a cult of conquest and way of life very threatening to the West. Always has been for ~1500 years. Connect the dots.
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Chip thinks we're stupid. In an election year where he is trying to pretend he's a hardline conservative on immigration he throws this anti-communist agit prop out there and Texas start clapping like seals...

Chip has never been a hardliner on immigration. He's ramped up his talk over the past 2 or 3 years when polls showed him (Trump) that this was a winning issue.

He's not the guy...sorry...
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Just curious. Do you have any evidence to suggest that he's ever been soft on immigration?
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Chip has never been a hardliner on immigration.


fake news.


chip roy has 100% rating from numbersUSA https://www.numbersusa.com/grades/tx

173 from immigration accountability project https://iapaction.com/


looks like you just didn't know his stance on immigration.

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BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

This mindset is why we are where we are. We defeated communism in the 80's, only to let it infiltrate and destroy every sacred institution.

Sit down and shut up. We aren't outlawing a school of thought. We are outlawing the infiltration of dangerous entities who wish to corrupt us from the inside using that school of thought. Our own idiot college students, professors, blue hairs, and libertarians are more than welcome to continue espousing these idiotic schools of thought.
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The US would be a much better tolerant and accepting country if everyone who supports socialism and communism were deported.
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Stupe said:

BusterAg said:

McCarthy would be proud.

I hate Mamdani, but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

One of the great things about America is that Americans have the right to be absolute idiots without government interference.

It stuns me that people put a blue star on that post as it pertains to the subject of this thread.

We have a of blue hairs and ignorant libertarians who vote for joke liberals in their party on this board.
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BMX Bandit said:

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but we should not be trying to outlaw schools of thought.

good thing this bill does not outlaw any school of thought.

The law already says this:


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Any immigrant who is or has been a member of or affiliated with the Communist or any other totalitarian party (or subdivision or affiliate thereof), domestic or foreign, is inadmissible.

no reason not to specify it applies to these others as well

1) Good point that the law doesn't restrict any Americans from anything, only immigrants.

2) There is a big difference between being a member of the communist party and circulating Marxist materials. For example, where is the line drawn between acceptable Islam and fundamentalist Islam? Who is going to set the standard? Some DC federal court judge? Member of a party is a much brighter line that has less subjectivity around it.

I guess my push-back on this is more from a libertarian standpoint. I generally hate the idea of giving the government power to regulate what is and is not an acceptable political viewpoint, because that can always be turned around on me.
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