The Tides Are Turning In France

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Gaeilge
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Seeing it across Europe everywhere now and some big gains for the right leaning parties in Germany today too. Is there still hope for Europe to save itself?!

Rupert Lowe of Restore Britain, if it keeps its currently track and trajectory, will beat out Nigel Farage for PM as well.



ETA:
Corrected Reform to Restore for Lowe. I always mix those two up.
Ellis Wyatt
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I'm old enough to remember Brexit. The globalists will not let go easily.
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Rupert Lowe of Reform Britain, if it keeps its currently track and trajectory, will beat out Nigel Farage for PM as well.

No. I don't know where you are getting this, but it's not grounded in fact.
Gaeilge
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Lowe is already polling 13% and has only been a party officially for a week and only launched like a month ago.

Pichael Thompson
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What's a us equivalent of a right leaning French politician?

I'm guessing something like Schumer?
Pizza
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In the modern era, if a country is going to War, their population should know that they can't have a left leaning party running the government; and War has been on the horizon for some time.

In times of peace the left just told everyone that biological sex doesn't exist, words are violence, rainbows are strength etc. which is a bunch of garbage....you DO NOT want people like that running the government when times get hard. IMHO those people would surrender before the real fighting even starts.

Toss the left out globally, it's good for the environment.
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Pichael Thompson said:

What's a us equivalent of a right leaning French politician?

I'm guessing something like Schumer?


I am old enough to remember when Scoop Jackson and Sam Nunn were considered mainstream Democrats.
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In the modern era, if a country is going to War, their population should know that they can't have a left leaning party running the government; and War has been on the horizon for some time.


Left leaning governments, for good reason, are primarily known for going to war on their own populations.
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Pizza said:

In the modern era, if a country is going to War, their population should know that they can't have a left leaning party running the government; and War has been on the horizon for some time.

I'm times of peace the left just told everyone that biological sex doesn't exist, words are violence, rainbows are strength etc. which is a bunch of garbage....you DO NOT want people like that running the government when times get hard. IMHO those people would surrender before the real fighting even starts.

Toss the left out globally, it's good for the environment.

Amen
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Gaeilge said:

Lowe is already polling 13% and has only been a party officially for a week and only launched like a month ago.



They don't even cite which poll supposedly came up with this result. Furthermore, you don't vote for a prime minister, you only get to vote for your local MP.

That looks like fake news.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

I'm old enough to remember Brexit. The globalists will not let go easily.




And yet Brexit didn't help. The UK is circling the drain with Starmer at the helm.
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The last time the right looked like they were going to win elections in France a bunch of left-wing parties formed a coalition and had some help from leftist social media groups in the UK to make false accusations about racism and other things to get people riled up into voting against the right wing party.

I believe one of those organizations was the center for countering digital hate, which is the group that deliberately tried to be served ads on X while pretending to be white supremacists so they could trigger an advertising boycott.
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Definitely not a bad thing but I'll believe things actually change when I see it
Ellis Wyatt
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Yeah, that's what I mean.
Rapier108
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They'll just rig the next election like they did the previous one.
rocky the dog
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Not sure this is in France, but the OP is correct...

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Urban Ag
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Logos Stick said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

I'm old enough to remember Brexit. The globalists will not let go easily.




And yet Brexit didn't help. The UK is circling the drain with Starmer at the helm.

Starmer is a globalist commie shill.


I am encouraged though every time I read "bugger off you Paki wanker". More please.
Gaeilge
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Here's one from a few weeks ago at 7% when they first launched. Restore Britain is gaining massive ground very quickly. Go look for yourself. There is a massive swell of support building for Rupert Lowe.



Rupert Lowe himself tweeted the same above poll.

Gaeilge
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Some context as to what just occurred in France. It was an absolute ass whipping from Marine Le Pen's party

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Logos Stick said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

I'm old enough to remember Brexit. The globalists will not let go easily.
And yet Brexit didn't help. The UK is circling the drain with Starmer at the helm.
Starmer thinks the UK is still in the EU.
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Logos Stick said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

I'm old enough to remember Brexit. The globalists will not let go easily.




And yet Brexit didn't help. The UK is circling the drain with Starmer at the helm.

The UK has been circling the drain since they voted out Margaret Thatcher and they deserve every consequence.
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ErnestEndeavor said:

The last time the right looked like they were going to win elections in France a bunch of left-wing parties formed a coalition and had some help from leftist social media groups in the UK to make false accusations about racism and other things to get people riled up into voting against the right wing party.

I believe one of those organizations was the center for countering digital hate, which is the group that deliberately tried to be served ads on X while pretending to be white supremacists so they could trigger an advertising boycott.


Recall we the US taxpayers via USAID were heavily involved in all of that BS too.

Hopefully the globalist commies don't have a rainy day fund stashed away somewhere for these elections.
I don't think you know me.
ts5641
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Seems like a lot of S American and now European countries are waking up. Is it too late for us? Will we wake up?
Gaeilge
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Even one of Reform's own online polls is spitting out Rupert as PM.

LMCane
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It will take a non-leftist to actually take power in France or UK before I believe any of this.

twk
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Gaeilge said:

Even one of Reform's own online polls is spitting out Rupert as PM.



So, an online poll asking people "who will be the next prime minister." Not a real poll, and not even a poll of which party you will support in the next general election (which is really the only way to frame the question in a parliamentary system where you don't vote for PM).

You are engaging in fantasy if you believe this stuff. I don't know much about Lowe, but that's kind of the point. I follow British politics closely and he's not really on my radar. For the average voter, he's a complete unknown.
Gaeilge
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twk said:

Gaeilge said:

Even one of Reform's own online polls is spitting out Rupert as PM.



So, an online poll asking people "who will be the next prime minister." Not a real poll, and not even a poll of which party you will support in the next general election (which is really the only way to frame the question in a parliamentary system where you don't vote for PM).

You are engaging in fantasy if you believe this stuff. I don't know much about Lowe, but that's kind of the point. I follow British politics closely and he's not really on my radar. For the average voter, he's a complete unknown.

As do I, as I have many friends and former colleagues who live there. I used that as a point of reference that Restore and Rupert Lowe are gaining massive ground quickly. I find it hard to believe that the man is a complete unknown to the average voters. He has been a very vocal thorn in Farage's side since Farage ousted him.

Yougov favorability poll that just dropped.


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Pizza said:

In the modern era, if a country is going to War, their population should know that they can't have a left leaning party running the government; and War has been on the horizon for some time.

In times of peace the left just told everyone that biological sex doesn't exist, words are violence, rainbows are strength etc. which is a bunch of garbage....you DO NOT want people like that running the government when times get hard. IMHO those people would surrender before the real fighting even starts.

Toss the left out globally, it's good for the environment.

Took out a few unnecessary words for you.
YouBet
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Pichael Thompson said:

What's a us equivalent of a right leaning French politician?

I'm guessing something like Schumer?


Possibly not far off. People have to remember that the European "far right" are really the same people as the leftists other than they want to manage or halt immigration from third world countries. Other than that, they are still proponents of cradle to grave welfare.

Le Pen's party protested spending cuts under one of Macron's now many PM's he's thrown out there, so they don't want fiscal responsibility anymore than the left.

Having said that, Le Pen is still a vast improvement over the status quo simply because they are sane about culture.
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