So What Is Going On In The North Atlantic?

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Squadron7
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And does Two-Tier Kier really even have the ability to project any serious power? Anywhere?

bonfarr
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He's taking his limp one into a pissing contest against Trump.
Logos Stick
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Do they actually have more than one carrier?
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Pacifico
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What a wanker.
Psycho Bunny
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Logos Stick said:

Do they actually have more than one carrier?

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Maroon Dawn
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Supposedly the operation is a show of force against Russia who has increased their naval presence there and the US is part of this operation as well.
Psycho Bunny
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Maroon Dawn said:

Supposedly the operation is a show of force against Russia who has increased their naval presence there

So exactly what Trump predicted, is coming to pass.

Shame on denmark

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Rock1982
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Rock1982
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What's really going on is he is using geopolitical bluster to distract everyone from the Islamist takeover in his country under his watch.

The UK is finished. Woke = suicide.
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Maroon Dawn said:

Supposedly the operation is a show of force against Russia who has increased their naval presence there and the US is part of this operation as well.

What exactly do you think the Russian navy is planning to do? Do you think Russia is in a position to conduct an offensive military operation against anyone right now?
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bonfarr said:

He's taking his limp one into a pissing contest against Trump.


Maybe watch the clip first next time
bobbranco
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An armada!
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Psycho Bunny said:

Logos Stick said:

Do they actually have more than one carrier?




A row boat they launch hobby drones from.
GAC06
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Or an 80,000 ton ship they launch F-35's from
Sid Farkas
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Putin just **** himself



…from laughing so hard
flown-the-coop
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Putin should attack the UK during daylight hours during Ramadan. The Brits would be mostly hungry , lethargic and unable to fight back.
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boulderaggie
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He's no friend.
Ellis Wyatt
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Can't defend his own country from invasion, but he's got Europe covered. Sure.
TRD-Ferguson
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Can we reincarnate John Paul Jones?
GAC06
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Sid Farkas said:



Putin just **** himself



…from laughing so hard


Putin wishes he had anything even close to the capability of a Queen Elizabeth class carrier with an F-35 airwing. Meanwhile his Black Sea fleet had its flagship sunk and has been largely chased from their home port by a country without an actual navy.
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Perhaps uncharitably, my immediate thought was that the North Atlantic was the farthest Britain can manage deploying their carrier.
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Rock1982 said:

What's really going on is he is using geopolitical bluster to distract everyone from the Islamist takeover in his country under his watch.

The UK is finished. Woke = suicide.



Probally using carriers as taxi for more Muslims to come in.
GAC06
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Claude! said:

Perhaps uncharitably, my immediate thought was that the North Atlantic was the farthest Britain can manage deploying their carrier.


They've been pretty much all over the world including the South China Sea five years ago, demonstrating they could be a valuable ally there. Interoperability with us has always been a priority, including embarking USMC F-35's
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GAC06 said:

Claude! said:

Perhaps uncharitably, my immediate thought was that the North Atlantic was the farthest Britain can manage deploying their carrier.


They've been pretty much all over the world including the South China Sea five years ago, demonstrating they could be a valuable ally there. Interoperability with us has always been a priority, including embarking USMC F-35's

Understood. You don't understand the political aspects of this conversation.
GAC06
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That the PM of the UK made a statement of solidarity with NATO and some troglodytes thought he was threatening us or felt the need to demonstrate their abject ignorance of the forces involved? Nah I think I get both the military and political angle just fine.
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GAC06 said:

Claude! said:

Perhaps uncharitably, my immediate thought was that the North Atlantic was the farthest Britain can manage deploying their carrier.


They've been pretty much all over the world including the South China Sea five years ago, demonstrating they could be a valuable ally there. Interoperability with us has always been a priority, including embarking USMC F-35's
Having seen the "coalition force" in her Afghanistan glory… I'm unconvinced that "strategic partnership" with "allies" has even 10% of the advertised benefit.

A couple good ships laden with planes manufactured in Fort Worth which answer to a different master. A crown jewel for the island, but costume jewelry compared to our fleets.

GB is one of the few NATO nations able to serve a function greater than mere terrain denial, but not by much.
fc2112
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They fly F-35Bs off their carriers.

Which are actually quite good. They were designed around the F-35B and are the second best carriers in the world.

Morbo the Annihilator
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GAC06 said:

troglodytes


Seems unnecessary.
nortex97
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England is…in the North Atlantic. Maybe he will deploy her to Liverpool.
The Collective
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It'd be good for all of us if the Brits stopped ****ing tanking their country and heritage.
Maroon Dawn
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Pacifico said:

Maroon Dawn said:

Supposedly the operation is a show of force against Russia who has increased their naval presence there and the US is part of this operation as well.

What exactly do you think the Russian navy is planning to do? Do you think Russia is in a position to conduct an offensive military operation against anyone right now?



It's not so much about offense as it is defense of routes in the Arctic

One of the biggest consequences of Sweden and Finland joining NATO is that the Baltic is now a NATO lake.

Access to St Petersburg is now only through a NATO controlled straight and their naval base at Kaliningrad is now totally surrounded by NATO assets

In particular it means they've shifted their submarine activity to their far north naval bases on the Kola Peninsula such as Severomorsk and Polyarny

In order for the subs and the rest of their fleet (including the so called "shadow tankers" they've been using to bypass the oil embargo) to access the Atlantic, they have to go through the GIUK (Greenland-Iceland-UK) Gap which narrows their options for avoiding NATO detection assets. They've been coming increasingly close to UK territorial waters over the past year seeing them as the easier path than increasing US presence in the Arctic now that we have essentially full military control of Greenland.

They're also conducting exercises to essentially tell NATO "we know where all the major data cables and oil pipelines are and we'll hit these if we feel too threatened"

So this exercise is in response to all this to tell Russia to back off from UK waters and that NATO is strong on both sides of the Gap here



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nortex97 said:

England is…in the North Atlantic. Maybe he will deploy her to Liverpool.

That's like saying I'm going to deploy my Tundra to the Stripes convenient store around the corner.
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American Hardwood said:

nortex97 said:

England is…in the North Atlantic. Maybe he will deploy her to Liverpool.

That's like saying I'm going to deploy my Tundra to the Stripes convenient store around the corner.

Acquiring breakfast burritos or returning the refined contents?
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