I encourage everyone to read about the remarkable life she lived, the amazing courage she showed, the tremendous forces she overcame, and the unbearable weight she bore. She was a picture of strength and fortitude amongst a cast of abject evil buttressed by an army of cowards, including the Palm Beach authorities, the state of Florida, the FBI, the US attorneys, the United States Congress, and the President. Her boldness accomplished what none of them had the guts to do. She destroyed Prince Andrew, imprisoned Ghislaine Maxwell, ultimately killed Epstein, and exposed many others. She is the epitome of the type of person this country should honor. Do her deeds not go before her, and is her legacy not worthy of esteem?

May she rest in peace, and may God be gracious to her soul.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Giuffre

Yep, and I assure you it was never about money for her. She wasn't perfect, but she certainly didn't deserve all the character assassination she got at the hands of Dershowitz and others who went hard on the offense.

no she doesnt

She recanted her testimony and had obvious mental problems. I feel for whatever trauma she may have experienced, but she's not some hero.

Kvetch said:

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She recanted her testimony and had obvious mental problems. I feel for whatever trauma she may have experienced, but she's not some hero.

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Obvious mental problems...let that sink in, nay, percolate, for a brief while. Do we ever, for example, award medals to soldiers with PTSD?

Kvetch said:

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She recanted her testimony and had obvious mental problems. I feel for whatever trauma she may have experienced, but she's not some hero.

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Am I supposed to know this person?

BigRobSA said:

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Am I supposed to know this person?

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Most well-known Epstein victim, infamous photo of her with Former Prince Andrew.

If she had mental problems, might they have been caused by being victimized by a sex trafficker and his customers?

Hope they find her mom.

Law-Apt_3G said:

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Hope they find her mom.

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Um...

Her problems started long before Maxwell recruited her to give rub and tugs for perv epstein. She was dealt bad cards from the start.

BigRobSA said:

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Am I supposed to know this person?

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The ruling class is glad you do not know who this person is.

Kozmozag said:

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Her problems started long before Maxwell recruited her to give rub and tugs for perv epstein. She was dealt bad cards from the start.

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As were most of the victims. He preyed on the weakest souls he could find. But Virginia found strength to overcome his evil. And what higher good should we celebrate than those whose actions free others from slavery and bring justice to oppressors?

94chem said:

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Kozmozag said:

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Her problems started long before Maxwell recruited her to give rub and tugs for perv epstein. She was dealt bad cards from the start.

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As were most of the victims. He preyed on the weakest souls he could find. But Virginia found strength to overcome his evil. And what higher good should we celebrate than those whose actions free others from slavery and bring justice to oppressors?

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All this and nothing for Tim Ballard?

Giuffre indeed had a troubled life and much of it not related to Epstein. She got her voice heard and that is a tremendous mark she left on the Epstein saga.. I don't think it's Medal of Freedom worthy.

Kozmozag said:

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Her problems started long before Maxwell recruited her to give rub and tugs for perv epstein. She was dealt bad cards from the start.

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The thing is in pictures from the time, she looks like an All-American girl. A high school cheerleader who should be going out on dates with the starting quarterback. Working on her college application essays.

She had a very troubled childhood.

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Giuffre repeatedly described her childhood as marked by severe sexual and physical abuse starting at a young age, which she said shattered her sense of safety and led to a cycle of running away, foster care, and further vulnerability:

From age 7, she alleged molestation by a close family friend. In her memoir, she went further, claiming her father (whom she called her "original betrayer" and "favorite") began abusing her around the same time, including sexual acts. She suggested he may have received payments from Jeffrey Epstein later (allegations he denied). Her mother allegedly became "cold and remote" and ignored signs of the abuse.

This led to profound trauma: She described going from a "very happy child" to someone mentally scarred, starting to run away, smoke weed, skip school by age 12, and live on the streets or in foster homes by age 13.

She spent time in and out of foster care, lived with an aunt in California at times, attended a school for troubled teens, and alleged physical beatings (including severe ones by her father).

At age 14 (around 1998), she ran away to Miami and was recruited into a sex-trafficking operation by Ron Eppinger (a 65-year-old trafficker running a front as a modeling agency). Eppinger was arrested by the FBI shortly after, and she returned to her parents.

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Rex Racer said:

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If she had mental problems, might they have been caused by being victimized by a sex trafficker and his customers?

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Nah, it's more fun to victim blame. Especially now that Dear Leader has informed us everything related to Epstein is a hoax. Anybody who cares about the victims or bringing justice to pedo elites is a woke Marxist.

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She had a very troubled childhood.

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Giuffre repeatedly described her childhood as marked by severe sexual and physical abuse starting at a young age, which she said shattered her sense of safety and led to a cycle of running away, foster care, and further vulnerability:

From age 7, she alleged molestation by a close family friend. In her memoir, she went further, claiming her father (whom she called her "original betrayer" and "favorite") began abusing her around the same time, including sexual acts. She suggested he may have received payments from Jeffrey Epstein later (allegations he denied). Her mother allegedly became "cold and remote" and ignored signs of the abuse.

This led to profound trauma: She described going from a "very happy child" to someone mentally scarred, starting to run away, smoke weed, skip school by age 12, and live on the streets or in foster homes by age 13.

She spent time in and out of foster care, lived with an aunt in California at times, attended a school for troubled teens, and alleged physical beatings (including severe ones by her father).

At age 14 (around 1998), she ran away to Miami and was recruited into a sex-trafficking operation by Ron Eppinger (a 65-year-old trafficker running a front as a modeling agency). Eppinger was arrested by the FBI shortly after, and she returned to her parents.

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Not surprising, unfortunately. And not at all rare, sadly.

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Rex Racer said:

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If she had mental problems, might they have been caused by being victimized by a sex trafficker and his customers?

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Nah, it's more fun to victim blame. Especially now that Dear Leader has informed us everything related to Epstein is a hoax. Anybody who cares about the victims or bringing justice to pedo elites is a woke Marxist.

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Funny didn't see you post or liberals for that matter about her or Epstein during the Biden Admin? Why does all this only matter now that Trump is in office. I'll hang up and listen.

Ervin Burrell said:

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If she had mental problems, might they have been caused by being victimized by a sex trafficker and his customers?

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Nah, it's more fun to victim blame. Especially now that Dear Leader has informed us everything related to Epstein is a hoax. Anybody who cares about the victims or bringing justice to pedo elites is a woke Marxist.

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Cmon man. We're all hear for it. Certainly some of the details of the Epstein files that were released recently appeared to be questionable at best. It's sorting through the fact from the fiction that's going to be key.

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Ervin Burrell said:

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Rex Racer said:

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If she had mental problems, might they have been caused by being victimized by a sex trafficker and his customers?

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Nah, it's more fun to victim blame. Especially now that Dear Leader has informed us everything related to Epstein is a hoax. Anybody who cares about the victims or bringing justice to pedo elites is a woke Marxist.

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Funny didn't see you post or liberals for that matter about her or Epstein during the Biden Admin? Why does all this only matter now that Trump is in office. I'll hang up and listen.

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I think there are plenty of places on F16 where people can accuse each other of either form of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome, or Trump Deflection Syndrome). Must it be present in this thread as well?

Have you nominated her? How about Tim Ballard?

It would be fitting for Trump to present them both as he has done more than any other POTUS to combat pedos and child sex traffickers.

Keller6Ag91 said:

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Ervin Burrell said:

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If she had mental problems, might they have been caused by being victimized by a sex trafficker and his customers?

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Nah, it's more fun to victim blame. Especially now that Dear Leader has informed us everything related to Epstein is a hoax. Anybody who cares about the victims or bringing justice to pedo elites is a woke Marxist.

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Cmon man. We're all hear for it. Certainly some of the details of the Epstein files that were released recently appeared to be questionable at best. It's sorting through the fact from the fiction that's going to be key.

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A ton are questionable at best if not outright fakes, and that doesn't even count the endless, obviously fake "tips" the FBI received. Losers all over social media re faking stuff left and right. Some for the clicks, others just to fling **** at whomever they do not like.

Heck, last night there was an Epstein e-mail making the rounds where he stated that that Zelensky has been heavily involved in sex trafficking Ukrainian women. The only problem was the e-mail date was 2024, and Epstein had been dead for 5 years. Still, countless people, especially those who support Russia, ran with it as fact.

I though another email said he was still alive. Pretty sure he is living in Hoffa's house with Elvis and aliens.

flown-the-coop said:

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Have you nominated her? How about Tim Ballard?

It would be fitting for Trump to present them both as he has done more than any other POTUS to combat pedos and child sex traffickers.

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This is a fact that has been massively memory holed. He started this fight in his first term, but many don't realize it or ignore that.

flown-the-coop said:

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I though another email said he was still alive. Pretty sure he is living in Hoffa's house with Elvis and aliens.

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Along with Hitler and JFK.

Also, I think it is lizard people, not aliens.

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flown-the-coop said:

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I though another email said he was still alive. Pretty sure he is living in Hoffa's house with Elvis and aliens.

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Along with Hitler and JFK.

Also, I think it is lizard people, not aliens.

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I think the distinguishing thing is if they can regrow ovaries, no?