The Missouri AG gets it.

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Hubert J. Farnsworth
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United States citizens have a right to representation, NOT illegal aliens. United States citizens should decide electoral votes and congressional seats, NOT illegal aliens. We are suing @uscensusbureau for unconstitutionally allowing illegal aliens to commandeer the path to The White House and compromise our elections.


This right here is why the democrats and their useful idiots are fighting the deportations so hard. It is why the Biden administration flooded the country with foreigners. Everything they are doing is for the 2030 census. It's about congressional seats and electoral votes. We need more red states to join in on fighting to fix our census laws.
AgNav93
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:



This right here is why the democrats and their useful idiots are fighting the deportations so hard. It is why the Biden administration flooded the country with foreigners. Everything they are doing is for the 2030 census. It's about congressional seats and electoral votes. We need more red states to join in on fighting to fix our census laws.

Exactly right. They don't give a **** about those people. They are only pawns to them. A means to an end. Truly despicable. And the useful idiots think it's about compassion.
Burrus86
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The left keeps destroying their long-term growth through abortions. They've got to make up the vote somewhere, such ans illegals and casting votes through dead people.
Ellis Wyatt
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I think this also puts on blast to the dullards across the country WHY the left is fighting so hard against deportations.

It isn't about love and warm fuzzies. It is about seizing America the same way they have seized California. The marxists want America and they will use anyone and anything to take it.
flown-the-coop
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Burrus86 said:

The left keeps destroying their long-term growth through abortions. They've got to make up the vote somewhere, such ans illegals and casting votes through dead people.

Let's not overlook that they took Von Millers chopping Ds literally then applied it to children.
AgGrad99
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This would probably help curb illegal immigration, more than anything else we try.

Once they aren't counted as citizens, they aren't useful to the left, and maybe they'd stop fighting common sense immigration measures.
MemphisAg1
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Ellis Wyatt said:

I think this also puts on blast to the dullards across the country WHY the left is fighting so hard against deportations.

It isn't about love and warm fuzzies. It is about seizing America the same way they have seized California. The marxists want America and they will use anyone and anything to take it.

So. Much. Truth.
Ag87H2O
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Ellis Wyatt said:

I think this also puts on blast to the dullards across the country WHY the left is fighting so hard against deportations.

It isn't about love and warm fuzzies. It is about seizing America the same way they have seized California. The marxists want America and they will use anyone and anything to take it.
It's also why we are finding so much foreign money funding the seditionists . The globalists know the U.S. is the last obstacle to worldwide governance.
flown-the-coop
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I was trying to say, but flubbed it, was that it was down to the US falling as the last obstacle, but Trump stopped it, is fixing it.
Pizza
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Tangent to the point:

The penalties are no longer severe enough to correct unlawful actions anymore...

In many instances I believe they are seen as a cost of doing business.

Last year I watched one entity do something blatantly illegal that harmed a competitor. The party comitting the infraction just absorbed the legal costs, ended up with some new clients, and kept on doing what they do.
Yesterday
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If illegals voted MAGA the left would have built a wall with illegal alien bodies.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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Yesterday said:

If illegals voted MAGA the left would have built a wall with illegal alien bodies.


Imagine if we started importing a bunch of hot women from Japan, South Korea and the Eastern European countries. All of the female libs, especially the white ones, would immediately start screeching to shut down all immigration.
WBBQ74
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A sizable percentage of female libs are not looking to procreation. And will not get much attention from normal guys.
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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WBBQ74 said:

A sizable percentage of female libs are not looking to procreation. And will not get much attention from normal guys.


They are women though. Having a ton of hot women imported would still drive them nuts.
rgleml
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I don't know. When you see some of them, you can tell why they have trouble defining what a woman is.
Dr. Mephisto
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

WBBQ74 said:

A sizable percentage of female libs are not looking to procreation. And will not get much attention from normal guys.


They are women though. Having a ton of hot women imported would still drive them nuts.


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Tony Franklins Other Shoe
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The ad campaign needs to start in 2028. Stress how we want to count EVERYONE. Legal and illegal. Put the fear in them that we are looking for the most detailed information. Wage a propaganda war in case this scenario doesn't play out. Dems are masters at it, make the illegals think the census is going to target them.

Person Not Capable of Pregnancy
flown-the-coop
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Yesterday said:

If illegals voted MAGA the left would have built a wall with illegal alien bodies.


Imagine if we started importing a bunch of hot women from Japan, South Korea and the Eastern European countries. All of the female libs, especially the white ones, would immediately start screeching to shut down all immigration.

I'm listening. Let's say we have a board to oversee this importation and maybe setup a non profit and apply for grants. Then we can make the government pay to import these ladies and then pay us to take care of them, plus admin fee and grant administration fee.

When anyone asks questions, muh racism, muh rights, muh amendments o just learnt about!
Hubert J. Farnsworth
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flown-the-coop said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Yesterday said:

If illegals voted MAGA the left would have built a wall with illegal alien bodies.


Imagine if we started importing a bunch of hot women from Japan, South Korea and the Eastern European countries. All of the female libs, especially the white ones, would immediately start screeching to shut down all immigration.

I'm listening. Let's say we have a board to oversee this importation and maybe setup a non profit and apply for grants. Then we can make the government pay to import these ladies and then pay us to take care of them, plus admin fee and grant administration fee.

When anyone asks questions, muh racism, muh rights, muh amendments o just learnt about!


We could change MAHA to Make America Hot Again.
flown-the-coop
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Make Ireland a penile-less colony for AWFLs.
AtticusMatlock
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Sec 2 of the 14th Amendment:

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Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed.


I'm not sure how they get past that language.

The word "citizens" was used elsewhere in the amendment, so it does not seem "persons" and "citizens" are used synonymously by the authors.
flown-the-coop
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They would be similar to Indians the as they are not subject to tax.
Iraq2xVeteran
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I love how Missouri Attorney General Catherine L. Hanaway filed a suit against the Census Bureau to stop counting illegal aliens. The Democrats are fighting against the deportation of illegal aliens because they want congressional seats and electoral votes. More red states need to join the fight to amend the Constitution to count only US citizens.
nortex97
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Edited from my mistake earlier;
For a re-count excluding illegal aliens. It's actually a pretty solid case.
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In fact, Missouri is suing to have the 2020 census recalibrated without its 'undocumented' additions.
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Missouri filed a sweeping federal lawsuit on Friday arguing the Census Bureau's practice of counting illegal immigrants and visa holders is unconstitutional because it dilutes U.S. citizens' votes and bolsters blue states' representation in Congress.

The lawsuit, led by Missouri Attorney General Catherine Hanaway, alleges that Missouri was robbed of one congressional seat after the 2020 census because the apportionment process, conducted every ten years, involves counting certain foreigners living in the United States.
Missouri lawyers made an ambitious demand that the Census Bureau redo its population count from 2020 and exclude illegal immigrants and visa holders, and then recalculate how many seats each state should have in the House.

The demand comes ahead of the 2026 midterm elections, as President Donald Trump is staring down the possibility of Democrats regaining House control.

The policy "steals federal representation from Missourians, and transfers it to States who artificially inflate their population by harboring illegal aliens," Missouri lawyers wrote in the complaint, filed in federal court.


The impact of illegal bodies on the balance of power in Washington is gobsmacking.
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...A GOP-founded research group called the American Redistricting Project compiled maps based on recent Census data that showed red states would gain more seats in 2030 if only U.S. citizens were included in the population count.

White House deputy chief of staff James Blair raised alarm on social media this week about the group's maps, highlighting how they showed that red states would significantly benefit if the population count included only U.S. citizens.

"Translation: not counting illegals in the census for purposes of apportionment (E.g., doing it the Constitutional way) moves a net 22 House Seats & Electoral Votes from Blue States to Red States," Blair wrote.



As with so much treachery throughout the world, the beginning of this problem traces to the vile Jimmy Carter:
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Prior to the 1980 Census, the Carter Administration unilaterally decided that all illegal aliens and temporary visa holders should be counted in the decennial Census and included in the apportionment of congressional representation. The framers of the Constitution and the Fourteenth Amendment would have been shocked by this policy. They could never have imagined an absurd system where 15 million illegal alien trespassers would receive representation in Congress and the Electoral College.

This will, presumably be heard in the 8th circuit by a panel of 3 judges, assuming it is not dismissed. The litigation here could be clever as the solicitor general/defendant could agree I believe and begin a re-analyses, which would then trigger litigation elsewhere of course. Checking in with Grok it (the Eastern District of Missouri) is a pretty solid one, with 7 Trump-appointed judges, 1 W Bush, and 1 Obama among the active ones (Brian Wimes is the latter, not a Bozoberg-style clown).

Hopefully this works out.
Kansas Kid
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flown-the-coop said:

They would be similar to Indians the as they are not subject to tax.

The IRS says illegal aliens are subject to tax assuming they have been here 31 days or more so that argument won't fly in court. The exceptions are foreign embassy staff and people here on certain visas.

You satisfy the substantial presence test, and are therefore treated as a resident alien for a calendar year, if you have been physically present in the United States on at least:

31 days during the current year, and
183 days during the 3-year period that includes the current year and the 2 years immediately preceding the current year. To satisfy the 183-day requirement, count:
All of the days you were present in the current year, One-third of the days you were present in the first year before the current year, and One-sixth of the days you were present in the second year before the current year.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc851
CanyonAg77
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Let's compromise, and count illegals as 3/5 of a person.

It was done before and for the same reason
gigemags-99
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Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

flown-the-coop said:

Hubert J. Farnsworth said:

Yesterday said:

If illegals voted MAGA the left would have built a wall with illegal alien bodies.


Imagine if we started importing a bunch of hot women from Japan, South Korea and the Eastern European countries. All of the female libs, especially the white ones, would immediately start screeching to shut down all immigration.

I'm listening. Let's say we have a board to oversee this importation and maybe setup a non profit and apply for grants. Then we can make the government pay to import these ladies and then pay us to take care of them, plus admin fee and grant administration fee.

When anyone asks questions, muh racism, muh rights, muh amendments o just learnt about!


We could change MAHA to Make America Hot Again.


I, for one, welcome our new gorgeous overlords
TAMU1990
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Texas should sue because we were directly harmed
fredfredunderscorefred
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If illegals don't even want to be counted (showing up and not informing anyone and "being scared" to answer a citizenship question on the census (per Dems)), then we should oblige
flown-the-coop
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Kansas Kid said:

flown-the-coop said:

They would be similar to Indians the as they are not subject to tax.

The IRS says illegal aliens are subject to tax assuming they have been here 31 days or more so that argument won't fly in court. The exceptions are foreign embassy staff and people here on certain visas.

You satisfy the substantial presence test, and are therefore treated as a resident alien for a calendar year, if you have been physically present in the United States on at least:

31 days during the current year, and
183 days during the 3-year period that includes the current year and the 2 years immediately preceding the current year. To satisfy the 183-day requirement, count:
All of the days you were present in the current year, One-third of the days you were present in the first year before the current year, and One-sixth of the days you were present in the second year before the current year.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc851


I know that. Why I said it as it solves a few problems with deporting them.

First, the ones who have not paid in to taxes, well they are all now guilty of those secondary crimes libs are so assessed with. Deport immediately and as priority.

Second, if they would like to pay their outstanding taxes, they can start by registering in the CBP Home app where the taxes will be assessed and offset against any "reward" they were to receive for self-deporting. They are also prevent from applying for re-entry until back tax's plus interest are paid.

Since they are deported, they are not counted for the sentence.

See, we just need to enforce the existing laws to solve many of our problems.
flown-the-coop
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CanyonAg77 said:

Let's compromise, and count illegals as 3/5 of a person.

It was done before and for the same reason


Como se dice "3/5" en español?
ts5641
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Yes, yes, and yes! This is the only way to stop the dems. Pass the Save Act and go even further. If the dems can't cheat they can't win except for a few places.
KerrAg76
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Kansas Kid said:

flown-the-coop said:

They would be similar to Indians the as they are not subject to tax.

The IRS says illegal aliens are subject to tax assuming they have been here 31 days or more so that argument won't fly in court. The exceptions are foreign embassy staff and people here on certain visas.

You satisfy the substantial presence test, and are therefore treated as a resident alien for a calendar year, if you have been physically present in the United States on at least:

31 days during the current year, and
183 days during the 3-year period that includes the current year and the 2 years immediately preceding the current year. To satisfy the 183-day requirement, count:
All of the days you were present in the current year, One-third of the days you were present in the first year before the current year, and One-sixth of the days you were present in the second year before the current year.

https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc851

Circular argument. They can't be taxed if they don't have a personal ss#, plus address etc as a record of working income. Therefore "they're taxed" is really nothing more than gaming the system….I wonder why some career bureaucrats would structure it that way????
flown-the-coop
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Bingo.
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