Wired Magazine: profiles "hard left" gun culture

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shiftyandquick
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I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho
Morbo the Annihilator
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MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons

Burdizzo
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James McMurtry is constantly kvetching about Republicans and Trump, and when Goya came out in support of Trump he posted video of himself and friends shooting up cans of Goya food products. That lefty loves his guns.
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shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.
esteban
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Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…
Rapier108
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Leftists wants guns because they think Republicans/Conservatives want to kill them.

Conservatives have guns because leftists/Democrats have killed them.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
YouBet
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esteban said:

Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…


You are smarter than most of your brethren then. Gotta protect yourself from your own party.

I'm good with the left creating the myth that they need to own guns due to "fascism"; helps reinforce 2A. Keep the left scared of this myth so they will get every bit as upset about losing their guns as conservatives.
inconvenient truth
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The mentally ill are not allowed to have access to guns. Leftists are mentally ill & unstable. The world would be a much safer place if we made sure leftists didn't have access to guns. It's really that simple.
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Burdizzo said:

shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.


Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.
captkirk
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Bob Lee said:

Burdizzo said:

shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.


Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.

Would be more indifferent if they just stopped shooting us with them
OverSeas AG
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esteban said:

Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…



I assume the left has guns bc they use them several times a year on the right.

Not to mention the fact they want so badly for the Right to lose their guns.
I despise Marxists... the most repugnant people alive.
MouthBQ98
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The one where they hyperbolically dramatize that they are imminently going to be violently oppressed

Revolutionary cosplay but with real arms…
YouBet
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Bob Lee said:

Burdizzo said:

shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.


Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.


If they weren't mentally ill, we wouldn't have trans people.
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inconvenient truth said:

The mentally ill are not allowed to have access to guns. Leftists are mentally ill & unstable. The world would be a much safer place if we made sure leftists didn't have access to guns. It's really that simple.


If we could magically prevent liberals from having guns, we'd be the safest nation to ever grace the planet.

If I were King, I'd make it so.
MemphisAg1
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Bob Lee said:

Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.

It's actually very simple...

Pretending you're a woman when you're a man is a mental illness.

Mentally ill people shouldn't own guns.
Jugstore Cowboy
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esteban said:

Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…

Conservatives are not who you need to protect yourself from - it's the psychopathic repeat felons that Democrat judges and DA's are letting walk.
APHIS AG
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Burdizzo said:

James McMurtry is constantly kvetching about Republicans and Trump, and when Goya came out in support of Trump he posted video of himself and friends shooting up cans of Goya food products. That lefty loves his guns.

And then due to the "boycott" of Goya, Goya purchases spiked in that stores that carry the brand ran out of inventory.
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Bob Lee said:

Burdizzo said:

shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.


Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.



I don't know him personally, but I would probably be OK with Bruce Jenner owning a gun.
Aggie1944s Kid
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Burdizzo said:

Bob Lee said:

Burdizzo said:

shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.


Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.



I don't know him personally, but I would probably be OK with Bruce Jenner owning a gun.

I wouldn't
shiftyandquick
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You have to be adjudicated by a court as mentally ill before you lose your gun rights. For example, being committed by a mental illness court to a state hospital.

What maga wanted to do is to declare a class of people as mentally ill and then summarily take away their gun rights.

Which is, of course, as strategy used by the left to take away gun rights.

MAGA = Left
Aggie1944s Kid
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shiftyandquick said:

You have to be adjudicated by a court as mentally ill before you lose your gun rights. For example, being committed by a mental illness court to a state hospital.

What maga wanted to do is to declare a class of people as mentally ill and then summarily take away their gun rights.

Which is, of course, as strategy used by the left to take away gun rights.

MAGA = Left

"MAGA" didn't need to do anything. It has already been classified as mentally ill by the International Classification of Diseases (ICD) and the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders
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YouBet said:

esteban said:

Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…


You are smarter than most of your brethren then. Gotta protect yourself from your own party.

I'm good with the left creating the myth that they need to own guns due to "fascism"; helps reinforce 2A. Keep the left scared of this myth so they will get every bit as upset about losing their guns as conservatives.


You trust the populace to not over react when a generation of leftist, intentionally radicalized, stresses the rights opposition to "common sense gun control" much more than I do.

I could see this as an attempt to destabilize/erode the rights commitment to the 2A.

It's how I would do it if I was the sick ******* on the left with this task.

We will have to hope people truly believe in the right to bear arms.
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What maga wanted to do is to declare a class of people as mentally ill and then summarily take away their gun rights.

Transgender are not a separate class, they are a mentally ill subset of existing classes.
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I shoot competitively, and there is a group of people with HARD left-leaning views who shoot our matches regularly. One guy in particular is a very well-known and highly regarded shooter who competes in some of the toughest "brutality" matches there are (if you don't know those matches, look up Forgotten Weapons on YouTube and look at his Finnish Brutality or similar match videos). Its an interesting group of people, that's for sure.
YouBet
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You are likely right. Eventually, it's just another example in a long line of examples of them infiltrating an issue, taking it over from the inside, and then killing it.
bobbranco
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The John Brown Gun Club defends the trans community, has plenty of trans members, and has been attacking ICE with the antifa terrorists. Not a good group of people to be associated with or defend. I don't think hanging ones hat on guns for trans is a worthy or intelligent cause.
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Almost all modern leftists are complete psychos. Clinically ill in the head (studies and polls back this up). The thought of them being able to have guns just makes me want more guns. So I buy more.

Yes, a trans with a gun scares me. These people are completely insane. Luckily they are very few and far between.
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esteban said:

Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…

I am glad that you make sure you are able to defend yourself from fellow crazy leftists and democrats.
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rally-cap said:

I shoot competitively, and there is a group of people with HARD left-leaning views who shoot our matches regularly. One guy in particular is a very well-known and highly regarded shooter who competes in some of the toughest "brutality" matches there are (if you don't know those matches, look up Forgotten Weapons on YouTube and look at his Finnish Brutality or similar match videos). Its an interesting group of people, that's for sure.


The club where I am a member is black powder and muzzle loader centric. A couple of the guys on the board are hard core Democrats based on the bumper stickers on their trucks, but they are more yellow dogs than today's neo-commies. We also don't talk politics on the firing line.
captkirk
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Aggie1944s Kid said:

Burdizzo said:

Bob Lee said:

Burdizzo said:

shiftyandquick said:

I have watched a fair bit of guntubers like hickok45 and many others. I have never come across the guntubers described in this article. This is the context of some of MAGA recently advocating for revoking the 2nd amendment rights for trans persons.

Left-wing intersecting with gun culture is interesting, because gun culture is so right-wing generally.

The 2nd amendment is for everyone. Right or left. Even concerned moderates.

https://archive.ph/McWho



That is because there is intersectionality of mental health problems and transgender culture. Don't confuse yourself. It is not that the right doesn't want trans people to have guns. It is that the right doesn't want CRAZY people to have guns.


Which is to say, the right doesn't want trans people to have guns.



I don't know him personally, but I would probably be OK with Bruce Jenner owning a gun.

I wouldn't

Kim Howe agrees with you from the grave
captkirk
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shiftyandquick said:

You have to be adjudicated by a court as mentally ill before you lose your gun rights. For example, being committed by a mental illness court to a state hospital.

What maga wanted to do is to declare a class of people as mentally ill and then summarily take away their gun rights.

Which is, of course, as strategy used by the left to take away gun rights.

MAGA = Left

You speak with some authority on the intent of the MAGA movement. From where do you derive these flippant comments you state as matters of fact?
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Burdizzo said:

rally-cap said:

I shoot competitively, and there is a group of people with HARD left-leaning views who shoot our matches regularly. One guy in particular is a very well-known and highly regarded shooter who competes in some of the toughest "brutality" matches there are (if you don't know those matches, look up Forgotten Weapons on YouTube and look at his Finnish Brutality or similar match videos). Its an interesting group of people, that's for sure.


The club where I am a member is black powder and muzzle loader centric. A couple of the guys on the board are hard core Democrats based on the bumper stickers on their trucks, but they are more yellow dogs than today's neo-commies. We also don't talk politics on the firing line.

Sounds similar to my situation. We shoot 3 gun / multigun, and you'd really never know unless you picked up one of their dropped PMAGS and see the LGBTQ+ flag is painted on the side of it. We don't talk politics on the range.
captkirk
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bobbranco said:

The John Brown Gun Club defends the trans community, has plenty of trans members, and has been attacking ICE with the antifa terrorists. Not a good group of people to be associated with or defend. I don't think hanging ones hat on guns for trans is a worthy or intelligent cause.

Don't forget these leftist heroes:


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esteban said:

Yep. Folks who assume that leftists like myself are unarmed would be wise not to test that assumption. It's better to have and not need…

Bold admission. Doesn't sound like you are too far gone. Maybe you you can be rehabilitated as you still believe "the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed".
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The mentally ill are not allowed to have access to guns.

I think this should read, "The clinically diagnosed mentally ill are not allowed to have access to guns"

The problem is that trans will never get the clinically ill label because their libby drs. will never do that.
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