COVID masks in court

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eric76
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In Smith v State of Texas, Champagne Smith was tried for a second-degree felony charge of aggravated assault and was tried in April, 2023. He won his appeal and it was reviewed by the Texas court of Criminal Appeals.

This summary is from Justia:
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The defendant was indicted for aggravated assault, a second-degree felony, and tried in Harris County district court in January 2023. During the trial, the court required all participants, including witnesses, to wear surgical masks at all times, except when necessary for in-court identifications. The defendant's counsel objected to the mask mandate on Sixth Amendment grounds, arguing that masking hindered the jury's ability to assess witness credibility by observing facial expressions. The objection was overruled, and the two key witnesses to the assault testified while masked. The defendant was subsequently convicted.

On appeal, the Fourteenth Court of Appeals reversed and remanded the conviction, finding that the mask mandate violated the defendant's constitutional right to confrontation. The appellate court emphasized that concealing facial features impairs the fact-finder's ability to evaluate witness demeanor, citing Romero v. State and other precedents. When considering whether this constitutional error was harmless, the court relied on a procedural rule that places the burden on the State to show harmlessness beyond a reasonable doubt. Because the State did not substantively address the issue of harm in its brief, the court presumed harm and reversed the judgment.

The Court of Criminal Appeals of Texas reviewed the case. It agreed that the trial court's mandatory masking policy violated the defendant's Sixth Amendment right to confrontation, as it did not make any case-specific findings of necessity or individualized determinations for masking. However, the Court held that the appellate court erred by applying a rule of default and presuming harm solely because the State did not brief the issue. The Court clarified that appellate courts have an independent duty to assess harmlessness under Chapman v. California and Rule 44.2(a), regardless of the State's briefing. The judgment was reversed and remanded to the Fourteenth Court of Appeals to determine whether the error was harmless beyond a reasonable doubt.


I'm surprised that a court would still require masks in 2023 long fter covid had run out.
Scruffy
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Most judges and lawyers are leftist that live anything that government told them was the truth.

I still see a good number of people still in masks and taking tests when they get the sniffles.
aggiehawg
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I'm surprised that a court would still require masks in 2023 long fter covid had run out.

But I think the decision was correct. Even people in witness protection programs have to testify in court. Can't in any way disguise them nor their voices.
Maroon Dawn
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There are still, in the year of our Lord 2025, broken Branch Covidians out there who still think it's Airborne Ebola Super AIDs that instantly kills anyone who gets it, but the magic of the thin sheet of paper improperly worn over the face provides 100% protection because the Talking Screen told them so
BboroAg
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Maroon Dawn said:

There are still, in the year of our Lord 2025, broken Branch Covidians out there who still think it's Airborne Ebola Super AIDs that instantly kills anyone who gets it, but the magic of the thin sheet of paper improperly worn over the face provides 100% protection because the Talking Screen told them so


Sad but true
Gnome Sayin
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Masks are the ultimate **tard alert
ts5641
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In 2023? WTF? Masks claim yet more victims. One of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on our society. Some are still broken over this.
94chem
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Really putting the state of Texas in a conundrum here. Do they hate masks or overturning convictions more?
94chem,
That, sir, was the greatest post in the history of TexAgs. I salute you. -- Dough
AtomicActuator
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I haven't regularly worn a mask since early 23, but it's helpful to test so you know what's going on, especially now that we have flu/covid combo tests. Tamiflu is amazing at stopping the flu if you start it early. I haven't done Paxlolid since my covid cases after 21 have been super minor, but it's nice to know how many times I've gotten it, which is at least three times now.

And given the recent evidence that even minor covid infections are associated with long term adverse effects, it's helpful to gauge the risk of those.
Juan Lee Pettimore
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I also would like to add that this happened in Harris County District Court. You really have to practice in these courts to truly get a sense of how completely ******ed literally ALL of the judges in that county are. Mostly black women who have never tried a case or had any actual semblance of a successful career in private practice. Just utter morons who have no business making decisions that impact other people's lives.
Jason C.
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Gnome Sayin said:

Masks are the ultimate **tard alert


I'm thankful when I see someone with one. Saves me a lot of time!
Aggie Jurist
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So this. So many judges come from the bottom quarter of their class - and couldn't make it in practice, so the took the bench.
TRX
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I think you're in the wrong forum.

https://texags.com/forums/84
ULTRA MAGA
Im Gipper
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This Judge was so terrible, she lost in her primary race!

I'm Gipper
FriendlyAg
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I still don't understand the point of testing. If you're sick enough to test, then you're sick, I don't know why it matters if you have covid, the flu, or some other illness. You can manage symptoms, but you just have to wait it out.
BigRobSA
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LOL at worrying about the WAV. At all.
zooguy96
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I go to the grocery store at the same time every week. Friday nights. 4x fuel point and no one is there.

The same lady every week wears her super thick gloves, face mask, and face shield.

Will intentionally not be within 10 feet of anyone.

What a sad life to live.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
JamesPShelley
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zooguy96 said:

I go to the grocery store at the same time every week. Friday nights. 4x fuel point and no one is there.

The same lady every week wears her super thick gloves, face mask, and face shield.

Will intentionally not be within 10 feet of anyone.

What a sad life to live.

She would intentionally have to avoid my ass. I'd have her out of that store in 5 minutes.
ThunderCougarFalconBird
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Aggie Jurist said:

So this. So many judges come from the bottom quarter of their class - and couldn't make it in practice, so the took the bench.
one of the exact catalysts for creating the business courts: to keep complex commercial cases away from these bottom quarter of the class at Texas southern judges.

It also highlights the odd problem in Texas of how we pay our judges either too much or too little. If we paid like we pay our legislators, successful retired lawyers with a lot of money but who aren't ready to leave law would take the bench as a sort of honorarium. If we paid higher (would have to be a lot higher; right now biglaw first years mane approximately 75k more than state court judges) you could attract actual talent. But as-is, there's just enough money and prestige for clowns that figure out the political system to get on the bench.
Rubicante
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I mentioned this in another thread a while back, but if you check out r/ZeroCovidCommunity you'll see there is a whole subculture of individuals who still live life the same way they did in Summer of 2020. No going out to family events, no going to appointments at places that don't require masks, nothing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ZeroCovidCommunity/

A sample post:

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I'm so tired watching everyone out living their lives and feeling abandoned by everyone.

No one in my life is covid cautious.

It's been so harmful watching the misinformation, the deliberate ignorance, the cognitive dissonance and feel like I'm invisible, screaming into the void.

How can people be okay condemning certain folks to never ending isolation like this? Why is my life less important than a concert or a meal at a restaurant. Why is a piece of fabric where people draw the line in their values?

I'm so lonely. I've lost everything and everyone. I don't know if I can do this forever.
torrid
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I'm at the grocery store, and there is a guy wearing a helmet with a face mask that is connected to an air pump with a long hose. It first I thought it was some sort of Star Wars cosplay. I should have gotten a picture.

edit - It was something like this. Darth Corona in the grocery store. I'm just imagining the latest post to r/ZeroCovidCommunity.

Guys, it was really scary today. I had to make my quarterly run to the grocery store, but being the Sunday before Thanksgiving there were PEOPLE there! Fortunately I had my triple-HEPA filter space helmet. Only there some obnoxious guy wearing a Texas A&M sweatshirt who coughed near me and took my picture.

BigRobSA
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That's ridiculous. How in the hell does someone get THAT ****ed in the head?

The WeakAssVirus, "WAV" for short, isn't anything to worry about for almost 100% of humanity. Never was.

To think someone is that gone about it is sad, but proof of humanity's weakest.
PCC_80
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So is this a "Get Out of Jail Free" card for anyone convicted in 2023 in a Harris County "Covid Mask Court" ? ?
annie88
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2023?

I barely wore them in 2020. In fact only when I had to. Getting in a restaurant or movie or other then they would come off immediately and I wouldn't wear them to go out. Even in stores I wouldn't wear them.
“Some people bring joy wherever they go, and some people bring joy whenever they go.” ~ Mark Twain
IIIHorn
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What if the defendant is charged with defacing property?
Captain Pablo
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AtomicActuator said:

I haven't regularly worn a mask since early 23


'23? WTF?
Captain Pablo
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94chem said:

Really putting the state of Texas in a conundrum here. Do they hate masks or overturning convictions more?


Neither is the issue, counselor
TexasAggiesWin
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AtomicActuator said:

I haven't regularly worn a mask since early 23

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