They're arresting journalists who've been physically attacked by ANTIFA. And are now 'showing' their support for the terrorist group...
[https://x.com/amuse/status/1981678869997596968]

Disliking Trump is not supporting Antifa.

Carpet bomb the place. Yes I'm serious. Drop leaflets that say "everyone needs to evacuate now, thank you for your attention to this mater - Donald J Trump", ensuring that all of the liberals stay. Maybe I'll loosen up once I've had my caffeine for the morning.

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Careful. Ar this rate, that post might be considered ANTIFA.

If one does not think that police officers in Portland aren't carefully screened by the Communist City Managers, they are foolish. If they weren't Leftists, they'd not be working as officers in that Leftist sheethole.

So, if an (on duty) LEO walks down the street waving a 'F*** TRUMP' flag, it's acceptable?

We're glad you antifa lovers are outing yourselves. Good job!

Supporting Antifa is supporting Antifa. And they are.

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DCAggie13y said:

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Disliking Trump is not supporting Antifa.

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Careful. Ar this rate, that post might be considered ANTIFA.

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Well they did the same **** to the proud boys.

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Disliking Trump is not supporting Antifa.

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But they most often go hand in hand.

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Well they did the same **** to the proud boys.

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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Well they did the same **** to the proud boys.

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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How does Antifa compare to the Proud Boys, in terms of violence?

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Well they did the same **** to the proud boys.

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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Hahaha...

"far right wing movements".

No, it's everything from center left and to the right...

Given how much larger and more diverse the Antifa network is compared to the Proud Boys, I would say folks acting under that banner have produced more violence. The Black Lives Matter protests had all sorts of morons running around setting things on fire.

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Hahaha...

"far right wing movements".

No, it's everything from center left and to the right...

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I agree that is the reality, but the definition of it is opposition to far right wing movements.

But none of that changes the fact that there is not really an "organization" that can be identified as a terrorist actor. It is just a bunch of weird folks trading notes via Signal and encrypted peer to peer networks. There is not legal shingle or leadership or unified movement which is very different from Proud Boys, who owned their own copyrights and had lawyers on staff.

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Windy City Ag said:

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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How does Antifa compare to the Proud Boys, in terms of violence?

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Proud boys were created by Ian McGinnis to fight antifa. It was created as a joke.

DCAggie13y said:

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Disliking Trump is not supporting Antifa.

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Arresting journalists is supporting Antifa.

Some things are just not that hard.

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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To your point, Al-Qaeda is decentralized, and has no form of leadership. Ideally it's just a network of affiliated regional groups. Is that a better comparison?

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To your point, Al-Qaeda is decentralized, and has no form of leadership. Ideally it's just a network of affiliated regional groups. Is that a better comparison?

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Maybe the current version of it but not the original. Al-Qaeda has an appointed leader. Osama then al-Zawahri and right now it is headless although some spooks believe Said al-Adel is secretly organizing it all.

It had a council that reviewed proposed terror acts for greenlighting.

It used to send missives explaining their ideology that was meant to sum up its core aims.

It was pretty hierarchical and corporate.

The truly disembodied group I have seen that maybe comparable is the Anonymous Hacker group. I know the White Supremacist Group the Base was similarly anonymous and decentralized.

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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Stop lying. Before they kicked out the embedded reporters years ago (for reporting the truth) we got plenty of evidence that they are organized local Communist Authoritarians. They Themselves identified themselves as such comrade, that's the reason the legitimate reporters got the boot and became enemies.

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To your point, Al-Qaeda is decentralized, and has no form of leadership. Ideally it's just a network of affiliated regional groups. Is that a better comparison?

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Maybe the current version of it but not the original. Al-Qaeda has an appointed leader. Osama then al-Zawahri and right now it is headless although some spooks believe Said al-Adel is secretly organizing it all.

It had a council that reviewed proposed terror acts for greenlighting.

It used to send missives explaining their ideology that was meant to sum up its core aims.

It was pretty hierarchical and corporate.

The truly disembodied group I have seen that maybe comparable is the Anonymous Hacker group. I know the White Supremacist Group the Base was similarly anonymous and decentralized.

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Not true. They have leaders, they just dont have a central leader for now BY THIER OWN CHOICE. They have said such a single leader can be targeted.

They are communist groups similar in function to a Red Guard. THEY Said this, not me. Just because they have some small anarchist hanging around does not change this.

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They are communist groups similar in function to a Red Guard. THEY Said this, not me.

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Who is THEY? Can you even put a name to it?

Maybe source or link something before calling people liars . . . .and paranoic troll X posters don't count.

How can Portland police possibly be supporting a myth?

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So, if an (on duty) LEO walks down the street waving a 'F*** TRUMP' flag, it's acceptable?

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If a cop in Dallas arrested someone waving a F Joe Biden or Lets Go Brandon flag, I fully expect them to wave that flag and would be disappointed if they decided not to. I assume most cops in Portland hate Trump or they would live somewhere else.

According to 18 U.S.C. 2339B, anyone who knowingly provides material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organizationor attempts or conspires to do socommits a serious federal offense punishable by fines and imprisonment of up to 20 years, or for life if the death of any person results.

Arrest the police.

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According to 18 U.S.C. 2339B, anyone who knowingly provides material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organizationor attempts or conspires to do socommits a serious federal offense punishable by fines and imprisonment of up to 20 years, or for life if the death of any person results.

Arrest the police.

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Believe the idea was just designated as a domestic terrorist organization, no?

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To your point, Al-Qaeda is decentralized, and has no form of leadership. Ideally it's just a network of affiliated regional groups. Is that a better comparison?

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Maybe the current version of it but not the original. Al-Qaeda has an appointed leader. Osama then al-Zawahri and right now it is headless although some spooks believe Said al-Adel is secretly organizing it all.

It had a council that reviewed proposed terror acts for greenlighting.

It used to send missives explaining their ideology that was meant to sum up its core aims.

It was pretty hierarchical and corporate.

The truly disembodied group I have seen that maybe comparable is the Anonymous Hacker group. I know the White Supremacist Group the Base was similarly anonymous and decentralized.

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Not true. They have leaders, they just dont have a central leader for now BY THIER OWN CHOICE. They have said such a single leader can be targeted.

They are communist groups similar in function to a Red Guard. THEY Said this, not me. Just because they have some small anarchist hanging around does not change this.

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Their organization might be decentralized and dispersed to an extent, but I'll bet the financing is more focused. Each of the local chapters doesn't self-fund or have their own local billionaire. Let's see what Patel uncovers.

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According to 18 U.S.C. 2339B, anyone who knowingly provides material support or resources to a designated foreign terrorist organizationor attempts or conspires to do socommits a serious federal offense punishable by fines and imprisonment of up to 20 years, or for life if the death of any person results.

Arrest the police.

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Believe the idea was just designated as a domestic terrorist organization, no?

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Technically you're right at least about the domestic part of it. Antifa is not just a domestic organization. It's foreign as well and designating them as a foreign terrorist organization is well in the works.

They have merch. They have headquarters. They have funding. They have allied DAs, Judges, Mayors, and LEOs. They're slippery in that they operate in much the same way as any gang does. But let's not pretend they don't have hierarchy, guidance, and structure just because they keep their fringes blurry.

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Hahaha...

"far right wing movements".

No, it's everything from center left and to the right...

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I agree that is the reality, but the definition of it is opposition to far right wing movements.

But none of that changes the fact that there is not really an "organization" that can be identified as a terrorist actor. It is just a bunch of weird folks trading notes via Signal and encrypted peer to peer networks. There is not legal shingle or leadership or unified movement which is very different from Proud Boys, who owned their own copyrights and had lawyers on staff.

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If it's "totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over" with "loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats"

How are you coming up with:

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Is this like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea? Or the DDR - the Deutsche Demokratische Republik (German Democratic Republic)?

I guess the definition of those was that they were fully for Democracy and Republics, right?



BTW, the totally decentralized collection of random small groups sure seems to have a pretty good funding stream for activities, especially when they're all opposed to capitalism to provide that funding.

I wonder how they all seem to have that funding, being all decentralized and everything...

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They have merch. They have headquarters. They have funding. They have allied DAs, Judges, Mayors, and LEOs. They're slippery in that they operate in much the same way as any gang does. But let's not pretend they don't have hierarchy, guidance, and structure just because they keep their fringes blurry.

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The mafia did that...

It wasn't until they got someone to turn that they finally found out the true organization...

Here’s Portland’s Rose City Antifa admitting on their own website that they are an organization that recruits and vets prospective members. Those who fail vetting, i.e., for not being violent and extreme enough, are kicked out. pic.twitter.com/HP1dvlXRAH

— Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) September 19, 2025

They could have tryouts and a draft and idiots would still parrot the "its just a concept" bull*****

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Well they did the same **** to the proud boys.

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Kind of a bad compare.

Proud Boys were a centralized, structured group with public leadership and the national group worked with local chapters.

Antifa is a label for a totally decentralized collection of random small groups the country over. They have loosely aligned views . . .anarchists, ant-corporate, social democrats . . . . the only thing that links them is opposition to far right wing movements. They are totally under the radar by design. It seems like a new age social media driven protest turnout movement.

I did not realize that parts of Antifa go after the Dems and the traditional liberal progressive types as well as they are too in bed with corporations and government.

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I would say it appears ANTIFA proudly uses the power of American Dollar to by protesters. I don't think Proud Boys do that.

dcaggie13 - nice try. Keep covering for your marxist friends.