Lot of noise on this after Fetterman's statements yesterday - some of them praising Trump, and saying Trump supporters are not Nazis.

John Fetterman brings the Kennedy Center to complete silence as he delivers this emotional message on stage:

“I know and I love people who voted for President Trump. They are NOT fascists, they’re NOT Nazis, they’re NOT trying to destroy the Constitution.”

“I REFUSE to call… pic.twitter.com/f9U8tnYlJy

— Vigilant Fox 🦊 (@VigilantFox) October 16, 2025

Then there is this story:

https://hotair.com/ed-morrissey/2025/10/16/too-dumb-to-check-dems-plot-to-oust-fetterman-n3807898

Well, it's not up to them. It's up to the voters. Not sure what the big deal is he still votes like a progressive, but I guess Democrats have purity testing as well.


Need a good R challenger

samurai_science said:

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Well, it's not up to them. It's up to the voters. Not sure what the big deal is he still votes like a progressive, but I guess Democrats have purity testing as well.


Need a good R challenger

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It's the New New Democrat party. One cannot utter one positive thing about any republican, especially Orange Hitler. Damn right they have purity testing.

The crazy thing about this...he's just saying what we've always considered to be common sense.

"Calm down, and let's talk"

How on earth is that controversial?

Fetterman is frustrating.

He says stuff like this but then falls in line when it comes time to vote.

I'd love to see them turn on him just to show everyone how fascist they are.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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samurai_science said:

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Well, it's not up to them. It's up to the voters. Not sure what the big deal is he still votes like a progressive, but I guess Democrats have purity testing as well.


Need a good R challenger

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It's the New New Democrat party. One cannot utter one positive thing about any republican, especially Orange Hitler. Damn right they have purity testing.

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I had a business lunch with Senator Amy Klobuchar in Edina, MN when I lived up there. I also attended a Veterans Day event that she came to in 2021.

She is very nice and pleasant in person. Spoke with my son and daughter for several minutes about school, sports, and even about what my kids missed about Texas. She is a fan of Texas BBQ (not Cornyn style)...... But she is still an absolute monster and wretched on the policies she supports.

So there - I said something nice about an elected Democrat.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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samurai_science said:

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Well, it's not up to them. It's up to the voters. Not sure what the big deal is he still votes like a progressive, but I guess Democrats have purity testing as well.


Need a good R challenger

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It's the New New Democrat party. One cannot utter one positive thing about any republican, especially Orange Hitler. Damn right they have purity testing.

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YUp. The party who tells you how you must think or accept. And if you dont, then They will ruin you , or even kill you! Free thought in democrat party is thing of the past.!!

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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samurai_science said:

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Well, it's not up to them. It's up to the voters. Not sure what the big deal is he still votes like a progressive, but I guess Democrats have purity testing as well.


Need a good R challenger

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It's the New New Democrat party. One cannot utter one positive thing about any republican, especially Orange Hitler. Damn right they have purity testing.

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DING DING DING

He may switch to Independent, but he'll caucus with the democrats. The democrats won't cut him off entirely because they need PA and he is in a very good position to keep his PA seat for many years to come with undecided voters. If they try to replace him with a progressive, PA dems lose that seat.

powerbelly said:

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Fetterman is frustrating.

He says stuff like this but then falls in line when it comes time to vote.

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He truly believes in the policy side of his party (not excusing that), but he's not willing to forgo basic decency and toe the party line on their extremist agendas. I respect him for having moral clarity on the most obvious of issues. He has been one of the biggest political surprises I have ever seen in that regard.

I can handle someone that disagrees with me and let the ideas battle it out. It's sad that type of person is a rarity in the modern Democrat party.

Kvetch said:

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powerbelly said:

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Fetterman is frustrating.

He says stuff like this but then falls in line when it comes time to vote.

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He truly believes in the policy side of his party (not excusing that), but he's not willing to forgo basic decency and toe the party line on their extremist agendas. I respect him for having moral clarity on the most obvious of issues. He has been one of the biggest political surprises I have ever seen in that regard.

I can handle someone that disagrees with me and let the ideas battle it out. It's sad that type of person is a rarity in the modern Democrat party.

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He is literally the only democrat that actually thinks for himself. He may be wrong about a lot of suff, bu at least he is willing to say Trump supporters aren't nazis.

I think he also has voted favorably on the CR, but all that really does is cancel's Rand Paul's vote because he refuses to vote on a budget through CR and will only vote for appropriations bills.

It takes a Democrat to have a stroke in order to make sense.

isnt his wife like a CRAZY wackadoo commie type leftist? were they counting on him being so mentally compromised that she was basically the one in his position?

AgGrad99 said:

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The crazy thing about this...he's just saying what we've always considered to be common sense.

"Calm down, and let's talk"

How on earth is that controversial?

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Remember they shot the last one taking that approach prominently.

titan said:

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AgGrad99 said:

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The crazy thing about this...he's just saying what we've always considered to be common sense.

"Calm down, and let's talk"

How on earth is that controversial?

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Remember they shot the last one taking that approach prominently.

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Sadly yep.

I love listening to Triggernometry. They've discussed this quite a bit lately. The moderate position is almost more threatening to the left, than the extremes. The moderates might actually get something done....while the extremes just yell past each other into the void.

Still don't trust him. Did he grow up all the sudden? At his age?

*** He's a T-Shirt liberal?

AgBQ-00 said:

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isnt his wife like a CRAZY wackadoo commie type leftist? were they counting on him being so mentally compromised that she was basically the one in his position?

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Yes and Yes

He is still a leftist and would likely just go independent.

samurai_science said:

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Well, it's not up to them. It's up to the voters.

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Really? Still want to say that after the last couple democrat presidential primaries?

It's become clear that the implant they input into him malfunctioned (aka the stroke) and they thought they could fix it. Then, he went to Bethesda and had them remove it, which is the change we see in him.

So now they will just have to suicide him. Such a waste.

AgGrad99 said:

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The crazy thing about this...he's just saying what we've always considered to be common sense.

"Calm down, and let's talk"

How on earth is that controversial?

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A substantial portion of the left are beyond disagreeing on the best means. They sort of have to see the opposition as bad or evil to rationalize the more spiteful and aggressively extreme actions they feel are needed. They need to see the opposition as evil instead of misguided, so the emotions they feel can be justified.


It is an ad hominem writ large. If the conservatives can all be hyperbolically called Facists and evil, then all sorts of yhis can be justified for the left to seize power from conservatives

He's one of the few democrats smart enough to see the coming bloodbath if they don't change some things, which speaks volumes about how dumb and out of touch most democrats are.

Fetterman character arc and events around him has to be one of the craziest things I've seen in politics.

Democrats wouldn't kick Marxists out of their primaries, so now Marxists are kicking democrats out of democrat primaries?

please lord make this happen!

but the leftists are too crafty and craven- they will never abandon a senate seat!!

they will harass him but keep him in their caucus.

he is literally the best democrat in the country right now.