The video is a little long. You can watch the first three minutes and thirty seconds to get the full jist of the suicidal empathy, when virtue signaling adoption goes wrong.


I mentioned months ago how in liberal Germany some migrants gang-raped a German woman, and another woman complained about migrant behavior online. The lady who posted online about the rape and complained about the migrants got more time in prison (Thats right thrown in prison for speech) for that than the rapists. In the UK currently the same behavior by the leftist Labour govt. is occurring right now on steroids. Leftist voters and the leftist institutions protect violent criminals and foreigners over their native population again and again. If anybody points this out, the government and the left go after them relentlessly.

The dangerous and evil nature of the left, both as voters and as government, is the same the world over. Regardless of country or culture. The left love violent criminals; they have an endless supply of sympathy for criminals and a seething hatred/callous indifference for crime victims/their native population. When it comes to violent criminals, no punishment is too light for the left. Any of this ring a bell?? This story could be told in any first-world Western country right now.

One crme story that is the microcosm of all that is wrong with the west!!!!!
When he starts to shill you can skip ahead to the 5:56 mark to pick up again with the insanity destroying the west from withiin.7

That's a great description of leftism.

Remember y'all

Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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As long as they continue associating with each other theyre one in the same and should be treated as such.

But many aren't. Guys like Rogan, Fetterman, Musk, Mahar, etc. are still liberals but not leftists. A lot of people I know who consider themselves classical liberals voted for Trump this cycle. The Trump campaign reaching out to classic liberals in 2024 (men in particular) made a huge difference.

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Which is why I keep telling everyone to call them progressives at minimum.

In reality, leftists are much more akin to Communists, if not outright professing Commies.

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A lot of people I know who consider themselves classical liberals voted for Trump this cycle.

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I like to consider myself closer to a Classical Liberal, which is why I get sideways with Republicans here as well, because they want just as much oppressive gov't as the Commies, just a different brand.

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A lot of people I know who consider themselves classical liberals voted for Trump this cycle.

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I like to consider myself closer to a Classical Liberal, which is why I get sideways with Republicans here as well, because they want just as much oppressive gov't as the Commies, just a different brand.

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Arent classic liberals republicans?

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I like to consider myself closer to a Classical Liberal, which is why I get sideways with Republicans here as well, because they want just as much oppressive gov't as the Commies, just a different brand.

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But many aren't. Guys like Rogan, Fetterman, Musk, Mahar, etc. are still liberals but not leftists. A lot of people I know who consider themselves classical liberals voted for Trump this cycle. The Trump campaign reaching out to classic liberals in 2024 (men in particular) made a huge difference.

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You think Maher voted for Trump. He already stated in Sept he voted for kamala.

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If you voted for Kamala or Biden, you are by definition not a "classic liberal".

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If you voted for Kamala or Biden, you are by definition not a "classic liberal".

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I don't know what part of my voting history would ever lead you to believe I would vote for those ******s.

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Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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They keep voting together on every issue though, therefore they are the arch-enemy of my country and my offspring, which is worse than just being the arch enemy of me.

If an oldschool 90's/early aughts democrat told me they refused to vote, because their party has just lost it's everloving mind...that is maybe the only way I could have a shred of respect for any liberal.

Democrats are the most violent and intolerant people on the planet.

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A lot of people I know who consider themselves classical liberals voted for Trump this cycle.

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I like to consider myself closer to a Classical Liberal, which is why I get sideways with Republicans here as well, because they want just as much oppressive gov't as the Commies, just a different brand.

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No, they're the people that laughed at Republicans over the last few decades when people said we are headed down a slippery slope with many liberal policies...

Those classical liberals like Bill Maher are now left with their head in their hands wondering how things got to the point they did...just look in the mirror.

This is where I am when it comes to people like Maher. Him, and MFers like him, mocked the conservatives and the right relentlessly for years. Now that exactly what we said would happen, is happening, they are lost and confused as to how. So, yeah, I am glad they are finally standing up to it, but save the righteous indignation as you mocked those trying to prevent it from getting this bad.

Try and learn from it and see what else you have been completely wrong about.

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Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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Progressives are the authoritarian cancer on society

The Romans had this idea that conferring citizenship among the conquered would grow the empire.

Remind me....how did that work out?

Bill Maher is not a Classical Liberal.

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Classical Liberals are guys like the Founding Fathers. Not those hippie freaks from the 60s.

The Founders envisioned a small Federal gov't with limited powers, bound by the Constitution, and one that ensured natural rights enumerated in the Constitution. They started out as the best, "leave people the hell alone" protectors the planet had ever seen.

It wasn't perfect, but nothing can be. It was a compromise of vary opinions on the role of government.

Sadly, it didn't take long for it to start going downhill, because, well, human nature.

It all went wrong in the 60's. I've come around to thinking that the hippies didn't have it all wrong; they were right about the fascistic side of big government and corporatism. But, instead of being more akin to libertarians like they should have been, they were duped into thinking the moralists (who were mostly, but not entirely, on the right at that time) were anti-liberal while in reality it was mostly about protecting and maintaining traditional civil and social standards.

The 60's liberals were naive and shallow despite the outward appearance of embracing philosophy and intellectualism. They mistook indulgence for freedom which made them easy prey for leftists who sold them lies about a utopian socialist society where equality and freedom abound free from traditional and religious constraints. Despite all their talk, in reality they were selfish and the progressives used that to their full advantage.

The free love hippies of the 60's quickly devolved into the oblivion of hedonism and arrogance of the early 70's. Self-gratification, greed, and power became the goal. It's a zero-sum game for them and they want it all because only they know what is good for society, not God certainly.

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The term liberalism has been high jacked by the left. The term meant to describe freedom of thought and liberty is now a sheep's cloak covering an increasingly nonliberable agenda. The problem with the left is that there are no guardrails keeping them from the logical migration towards authoritarianism in the form of communism. Everyone understands that going too far right leads to authoritarian fascism and there are checks to maintain from sliding too far in that direction. The is well explained by the horseshoe theory.

Most conservatives denounce that ideology. How many democrats have you heard denouncing communism? Until they do, they are dangerous and one needs look no further then the Covid lockdowns in blue states.

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No, they're the people that laughed at Republicans over the last few decades when people said we are headed down a slippery slope with many liberal policies...

Those classical liberals like Bill Maher are now left with their head in their hands wondering how things got to the point they did...just look in the mirror.

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No, you're thinking 90's liberals. Classical liberals are more libertarian in nature (small L)

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Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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They keep voting together on every issue though, therefore they are the arch-enemy of my country and my offspring, which is worse than just being the arch enemy of me.

If an oldschool 90's/early aughts democrat told me they refused to vote, because their party has just lost it's everloving mind...that is maybe the only way I could have a shred of respect for any liberal.

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what a sad way to live...

I love all the facts you brought to your refutation. Truly, a monumental task of many paragraphs.

I wonder how they would feel being the "victim" a time or two?

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I don't know what part of my voting history would ever lead you to believe I would vote for those ******s.

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Wording. At this point I ideally look at "classic liberals", as the cooky side of current Libertarians.

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No, no, no.

Libertarians are the cooky side of things. Classical Liberals are the sane, small L people.

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A lot of people I know who consider themselves classical liberals voted for Trump this cycle.

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I like to consider myself closer to a Classical Liberal, which is why I get sideways with Republicans here as well, because they want just as much oppressive gov't as the Commies, just a different brand.

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No, they're the people that laughed at Republicans over the last few decades when people said we are headed down a slippery slope with many liberal policies...

Those classical liberals like Bill Maher are now left with their head in their hands wondering how things got to the point they did...just look in the mirror.

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So i went down a rabbit hole, and ideally, classic liberals are the current state of libertarians.

Bill Maher is not a classic liberal, he is just a mid center democrat. He'll talk against the idiocy of the woke, but skip to the voting booth on election day and vote diwn ticket democrat. Ideally, he knows if he bull****s more against woke he'll keep some of his right viewers.

Let's make it simple. There are Americans and then there are commie pieces of *****

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Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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They keep voting together on every issue though, therefore they are the arch-enemy of my country and my offspring, which is worse than just being the arch enemy of me.

If an oldschool 90's/early aughts democrat told me they refused to vote, because their party has just lost it's everloving mind...that is maybe the only way I could have a shred of respect for any liberal.

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what a sad way to live...

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I know, I agree...part of me DOES feel sorry for the godless cretins. Most liberals suffer from at least one mental illness and many did not have the familial support and structure that I did growing up.

But you could probably say the same about most hamas, hezbollah and other terrorists.

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Leftism and liberals have been diverging and the gap is widening. IMO they should no longer be considered the same group of people. Liberals still have plenty of issues, but leftists are some of the most illiberal people on the planet.

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They keep voting together on every issue though, therefore they are the arch-enemy of my country and my offspring, which is worse than just being the arch enemy of me.

If an oldschool 90's/early aughts democrat told me they refused to vote, because their party has just lost it's everloving mind...that is maybe the only way I could have a shred of respect for any liberal.

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what a sad way to live...

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Yet cheering the murder of Charlie Kirk is happy?