Sam Hyde sums up the whole situation with Charlie Kirk

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Stone Choir
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Here is the full video:

The opening two minutes are amazing and he's exactly right, what happens next and how we respond to this will change the course of humanity.

We have diametrically opposed worldviews, we cannot coexist with people who want us dead and our families raped/murdered.





Waffledynamics
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Not a fan of him elevating Fuentes.
Tea Party
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OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .
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Stone Choir
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Waffledynamics said:

Not a fan of him elevating Fuentes.


Read and listen to what Hyde has to say. He's exactly right about what is happening. Hyde has been speaking about this very issue for a decade. We as a society ignored his warnings and now it's all coming home to roost.
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They got comfortable thinking they could let their evil show. **** em. Defeat them. Destroy them. Dismantle any will they have to continue their lies. And then keep doing it until they realize conservatism is the only useful way to run a society. I don't care about talking to them or reasoning with them.

They want you and your family dead for the things you believe. Remember that.
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Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.
Stone Choir
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SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.


Remember they want you dead, your children rape and brainwashed, your wife raped and murdered, and worse. There is no compromise with these people and there is no satiating their bloodlust. It doesn't matter if you think you don't qualify, they have qualified you and they have defined you.

This is far bigger than just a political battle and that's why a lot of people are confused by it. Kirk was just a normal guy with no particularly extreme positions and they murdered him anyway. If they would kill him, they would not doubt do it to you too and then dance on your still warm body as you bleed out.
Im Gipper
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Don't be fooled. Fuentes is not on "our side". He's in the side of evil.




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Charlie's movement must not be co-opted by the likes of Nick Fuentes & his brand of politics that is fueled by victimology, race focused, deep resentment & grievance which is much like what fuels black politics on the left.
It's not only antithetical Christian values, it is also politically destructive to our quest to defeating the Marxist globalist left..

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titan
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Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .

Its dumb to ignore on basis of a mention. When asked watched his show on the Ukraine girl's murder and very little of it could be argued against. And it all leads back to the MSM-DNC combo. He is not even for violence. If a bunch of people are listening to it you better be aware of it.

Im Gipper
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Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .



Great post.

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SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.

It only makes it worthless if you choose to make it worthless. Your philosophy here is exactly how the left was able to describe Charlie Kirk as rascist, nazi, etc. They failed to listen to the whole message.

Open your mind, listen to it all, and feel free to cast away some of the individual parts.

As much as you dislike Fuentes, I am willing to bet some of his messaging is agreeable especially since the murder, and especially since he was initially blamed for influencing the pos.

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Waffledynamics said:

Not a fan of him elevating Fuentes.

Yep, lost me there. That guy is someone that needs to be able to speak but also treated for what he is. Keep him the hell out of the conservative movement and the GOP and he isn't in Kirk's Zip Code. Fuentes is a terrible human and actual racist.
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zgolfz85
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we need to distance from fuentes, not embrace him. wtf
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JFABNRGR said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.

It only makes it worthless if you choose to make it worthless. Your philosophy here is exactly how the left was able to describe Charlie Kirk as rascist, nazi, etc. They failed to listen to the whole message.

Open your mind, listen to it all, and feel free to cast away some of the individual parts.

As much as you dislike Fuentes, I am willing to bet some of his messaging is agreeable especially since the murder, and especially since he was initially blamed for influencing the pos.



That's unsettling close to correct in its echo how Kirk was demonized. The bold is true.

To wit: Any ant-semitic message this Fuentes is engaged in can be dismissed. But the problem is, because only outliers are wiling to talk about it, the part discussed in the 9th Sept message can be mulled:

The part that has reached and observed the reality Scott Adams outlined more elegantly. And which continues to hold. He is absolute right all that is not excused, but promoted and enabled.

What needs to be realized is certain topics are `off limits' to the go-along crowd -- so only outliers get to touch upon them and this can damage that part of the topic ever getting a good hearing. It took the abuses of the Biden admin to show that some of the more routine and classic Liberal statements about govt abuse and war-mongering were true. Same with "conspiracy theory" Republicans about what was going on -- now its practically a meme that its only 6 months between conspiracy and it being fact. The left then going about the Patriot Act were the outliers then.
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It is interesting that the OP is smiley face posting on the Alt Right thread about how that movement has been dead for over a decade while asking in this thread to absorb and ponder the message from one of the poster children for that movement.
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Windy City Ag said:

It is interesting that the OP is smiley face posting on the Alt Right thread about how that movement has been dead for over a decade while asking in this thread to absorb and ponder the message from one of the poster children for that movement.


I never said it was dead, I said the name was dead. The ideas are far more popular now than they were then.
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JFABNRGR said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.

It only makes it worthless if you choose to make it worthless. Your philosophy here is exactly how the left was able to describe Charlie Kirk as rascist, nazi, etc. They failed to listen to the whole message.

Open your mind, listen to it all, and feel free to cast away some of the individual parts.

As much as you dislike Fuentes, I am willing to bet some of his messaging is agreeable especially since the murder, and especially since he was initially blamed for influencing the pos.




You can name any awful person in history and say "I bet you agree with something he said" and you'd probably be right. That doesn't mean I'm on their side or want to be associated with them or support them in any way.
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Stone Choir said:

Remember they want you dead, your children rape and brainwashed, your wife raped and murdered, and worse. There is no compromise with these people and there is no satiating their bloodlust. It doesn't matter if you think you don't qualify, they have qualified you and they have defined you.

This is far bigger than just a political battle and that's why a lot of people are confused by it. Kirk was just a normal guy with no particularly extreme positions and they murdered him anyway. If they would kill him, they would not doubt do it to you too and then dance on your still warm body as you bleed out.
this reads like it was written by a fed
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Holy wet mouth sounds. I couldn't manage 15 seconds. Get that man a microphone filter.
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Old McDonald said:

Stone Choir said:

Remember they want you dead, your children rape and brainwashed, your wife raped and murdered, and worse. There is no compromise with these people and there is no satiating their bloodlust. It doesn't matter if you think you don't qualify, they have qualified you and they have defined you.

This is far bigger than just a political battle and that's why a lot of people are confused by it. Kirk was just a normal guy with no particularly extreme positions and they murdered him anyway. If they would kill him, they would not doubt do it to you too and then dance on your still warm body as you bleed out.
this reads like it was written by a fed


Every other right wing extremist is a fed. The other half are fed informants.
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Eliminatus said:

Old McDonald said:

Stone Choir said:

Remember they want you dead, your children rape and brainwashed, your wife raped and murdered, and worse. There is no compromise with these people and there is no satiating their bloodlust. It doesn't matter if you think you don't qualify, they have qualified you and they have defined you.

This is far bigger than just a political battle and that's why a lot of people are confused by it. Kirk was just a normal guy with no particularly extreme positions and they murdered him anyway. If they would kill him, they would not doubt do it to you too and then dance on your still warm body as you bleed out.

this reads like it was written by a fed


Every other right wing extremist is a fed. The other half are fed informants.

As is most of the KKK. ;-)
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JFABNRGR said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.

It only makes it worthless if you choose to make it worthless. Your philosophy here is exactly how the left was able to describe Charlie Kirk as rascist, nazi, etc. They failed to listen to the whole message.

Open your mind, listen to it all, and feel free to cast away some of the individual parts.

As much as you dislike Fuentes, I am willing to bet some of his messaging is agreeable especially since the murder, and especially since he was initially blamed for influencing the pos.



So Hitler had some good ideas too and we should have listened to the whole message?
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No more the other way around. Don't throw out the parts that happened to coincide with good things done. Like dam design or organized road building in that over-used case.
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Old McDonald said:

Stone Choir said:

Remember they want you dead, your children rape and brainwashed, your wife raped and murdered, and worse. There is no compromise with these people and there is no satiating their bloodlust. It doesn't matter if you think you don't qualify, they have qualified you and they have defined you.

This is far bigger than just a political battle and that's why a lot of people are confused by it. Kirk was just a normal guy with no particularly extreme positions and they murdered him anyway. If they would kill him, they would not doubt do it to you too and then dance on your still warm body as you bleed out.
this reads like it was written by a fed


There are literally hundreds of thousands of these videos or posts mocking or laughing about his death. Your side is responsible for this.
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SC, I empathize with your anger, but we win the fight battling ideas, not people.

Compare Bar Kochbah to The Way of Our Lord and Savior. One picked up a sword and it resulted in his people's land being literally wiped off the map. The other used His Word and it resulted in the complete capitulation of one of the most powerful empires in history.

"They" are just lost humans. We must prosecute their ideas.
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Waffledynamics said:

Not a fan of him elevating Fuentes.

This whole time I thought we were talking about Nick Freitas and couldn't figure out how I had missed his antisemitism. Now I get it. Different dude.
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Silent For Too Long said:

SC, I empathize with your anger, but we win the fight battling ideas, not people.

Compare Bar Kochbah to The Way of Our Lord and Savior. One picked up a sword and it resulted in his people's land being literally wiped off the map. The other used His Word and it resulted in the complete capitulation of one of the most powerful empires in history.

"They" are just lost humans. We must prosecute their ideas.

CK battled ideas and when the left decided they were losing that battle, he was murdered for it. Seems like there is a problem with your logic. They can be lost right to judgement and deal with their creator then. I don't have to lose my life or accept that other innocents will lose their lives just to "prosecute their ideas."
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Jesus Christ was assassinated for his beliefs as well. Are you saying that means he was doing it wrong?

If you are arguing we should respond with violence you do not represent me or my faith.
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Silent For Too Long said:

Jesus Christ was assassinated for his beliefs as well. Are you saying that means he was doing it wrong?

If you are arguing we should respond with violence you do not represent me or my faith.

Neither of us are Jesus. Neither of us could pay the debt of the world's sin with our lives. If you believe differently, you don't represent me or my faith.
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I primarily don't believe you should pursue what you seem to be implying because I don't believe this is what the Holy Spirit calls us to do.

But I also feel the need to caution you that this will destroy us. We can create powerful momentum with this movement that will appeal to the middle. If we become the demons they say we are, it will animate us and our souls in the process.

I fully support self defense, but we must to take the high road on violence if we want to create a better world for our children.
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I'm not suggesting anyone start committing retaliatory acts of violence. I'm saying stop turning the other cheek and saying "let's just reason with them." They can't be reasoned with.
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agracer said:

JFABNRGR said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.

It only makes it worthless if you choose to make it worthless. Your philosophy here is exactly how the left was able to describe Charlie Kirk as rascist, nazi, etc. They failed to listen to the whole message.

Open your mind, listen to it all, and feel free to cast away some of the individual parts.

As much as you dislike Fuentes, I am willing to bet some of his messaging is agreeable especially since the murder, and especially since he was initially blamed for influencing the pos.



So Hitler had some good ideas too and we should have listened to the whole message?

Sun Tzu is a good read and you don't have to throw any parts out....just saying!
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
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Sam Hyde is a real one
JFABNRGR
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JFABNRGR said:

SquirrellyDan said:

Tea Party said:

OP mentions Nick Fuentes. Prepare for F16 to ignore your message based on that detail alone.

And I agree and have been saying it for quite a while now, conservativism and leftism are incompatible and we need to quit pretending that they are not. One side will have to win out, either via a significant cultural embracement, actively shunning the other side, or more active measures though I don't want anyone to push that envelope like Nick Fuentes is trying to goad people into.

Edit to add that I couldn't even type fast enough to beat the first post .


Invoking Nick Fuentes makes the whole thing worthless. I may agree with everything the post said but not getting on board with that POS Fuentes.

It only makes it worthless if you choose to make it worthless. Your philosophy here is exactly how the left was able to describe Charlie Kirk as rascist, nazi, etc. They failed to listen to the whole message.

Open your mind, listen to it all, and feel free to cast away some of the individual parts.

As much as you dislike Fuentes, I am willing to bet some of his messaging is agreeable especially since the murder, and especially since he was initially blamed for influencing the pos.



I have to confess I have confused Nick Fuentes and Nick Freitas. I actually have never heard or seen Nick Fuentes and thought these comments were being attributed to Nick Freitas whom I do follow.

My bad learned something new here.
“You can resolve to live your life with integrity. Let your credo be this: Let the lie come into the world, let it even triumph. But not through me.”
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn
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Who is Sam Hyde? And why should I give a single F what he has to say?

Does everybody, but me, have a "podcast"?
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