The term "alternative right" or "alt-right" was coined and created by leftist-socialist Richard Spencer. Spencer's "claim to fame" is that he is a white supremacist and a white nationalist. Additionally, Spencer is an atheist and believes that nobody has a right to anything and that all societal rights come from government. Spencer came up with "alt-right" to attract white conservatives that share his racial viewpoints. Spencer is NOT, in fact, on the right. He is FIRMLY on the left.

Dinesh D'Souza interviewed Spencer in 2016. It's insightful.

I want to add that there are many leftists that hate Jews and people of color. The left tries to pretend otherwise and LIES about it but it's true.

Since you are brand new to F16, you may be confused on the audience

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want to add that there are many leftists that hate Jews and people of color. The left tries to pretend otherwise and LIES about it but it's true.

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EVERY poster here is well aware of this.

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He is FIRMLY on the left.

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So are many of the Charlatons from the new right. They want authoritarian government and hate Jews just like the leftists.

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want to add that there are many leftists that hate Jews and people of color. The left tries to pretend otherwise and LIES about it but it's true.

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Good to know!

Guess who wasnt involved in the assassination of Charlie Kirk?

Alt-right.

Carry on.

Charlie?

How does that tie in?

According to MSM and all the deranged SM posters out there, if you are "Alt Right", you are a furry who is living with guy who thinks he is a woman and having sexual intercourse with him. Then you assassinate Charlie Kirk.

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Charlie?

How does that tie in?

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Charlie has been branded as "far right" from the media. Period.

I disagree with his branding, but you cant deny that is the attempt.

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Charlie?

How does that tie in?

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Charlie has been branded as "far right" from the media. Period.

I disagree with his branding, but you cant deny that is the attempt.

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Yes, it's a part of the "Big Lie", as D'Souza said.

No doubt about that!

Kirk was not alt right or far right. Many fake conservatives and scummy people (Owens & Fuentes for example) tying to pull a Jessie Jackson.

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The term "alternative right" or "alt-right" was coined and created by leftist-socialist Richard Spencer. Spencer's "claim to fame" is that he is a white supremacist and a white nationalist. Additionally, Spencer is an atheist and believes that nobody has a right to anything and that all societal rights come from government. Spencer came up with "alt-right" to attract white conservatives that share his racial viewpoints. Spencer is NOT, in fact, on the right. He is FIRMLY on the left.

Dinesh D'Souza interviewed Spencer in 2016. It's insightful.

I want to add that there are many leftists that hate Jews and people of color. The left tries to pretend otherwise and LIES about it but it's true.

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Most Leftist and Democrats who vote for them fall in this category...

That is why they are For Abortion - to limit the population of a certain type of people - sold to feminist as "My Body, My Choice"

That is also why most to all the KKK members in the Deep South were Democrats.

As long as 'the black folks' will vote as they are told and keep getting their abortions (so there ain't too many of them), then the democrats will tolerate them as they are useful idiots to the Democratic voter block.

They way you know this, is anytime there is an educated black man such as Ben Carson, Clarence Thomas, or Herman Cain, the left will attack them incessantly as 'those kinds of people should know their place'.

Dems can't have educated black people out there spreading the truth.

As far the as the Jews, look who took the side of the Palestinians and Hamas at all the universities. Always the crazy liberal leftist.

Attributes, like Nazis or white supremacists that they say define "far right" are not what you get when you turn the dial of a party that wants small government and personal freedom up to 11.

Why are we talking about a made-up narrative?

Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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Why are we talking about a made-up narrative?

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To dispel lies and tell the truth.

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Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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On the contrary my brother. The lying left continues to spew this lie.

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Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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On the contrary my brother. The lying left continues to spew this lie.

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The alt right hasn't been used in nearly a decade.

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Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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On the contrary my brother. The lying left continues to spew this lie.

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The alt right hasn't been used in nearly a decade.

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https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

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Charlie?

How does that tie in?

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Charlie has been branded as "far right" from the media. Period.

I disagree with his branding, but you cant deny that is the attempt.

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Yes, it's a part of the "Big Lie", as D'Souza said.

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Dinesh D'Souza is an idiot who is from the Eric Cantor, George Bush, John McCain school of "authentic conservative".

But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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On the contrary my brother. The lying left continues to spew this lie.

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Richard Spencer is a duginist homosexual who has a few decent ideas about racial realities. Alt-right literally meant anyone who wasn't right but wasn't in the mainstream right, which prior to 2016, meant the neo-liberal war hawk massive immigration socially passive hegemony that was the Republican Party.

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Attributes, like Nazis or white supremacists that they say define "far right" are not what you get when you turn the dial of a party that wants small government and personal freedom up to 11.

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Correct. As I've said on other posts, a fascist conservative government, if one could even theoretically exist, would have: constitutionally mandated very small government, mandatory gun ownership, a requirement to pay the lowest one could legally pay in taxes, required written and oral communication about political views by everyone, required church membership (though unrestrictive as to religion/faith/etc.), and a legal prohibition to change any of these things.

Ever heard of one of those? Neither have I.

Its easy to take the left to an extreme; its virtually impossible to do that with conservatives since it would violate the principles of conservatism to do so. The left doesn't have that problem.

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Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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On the contrary my brother. The lying left continues to spew this lie.

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The alt right hasn't been used in nearly a decade.

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https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

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No one who is far right has used the term in a decade. Why are you reading anything the lying press puts out?

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But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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The last time it was used was Charlottesville? Why do I know this? Because I am and have been in that crowd since 2015.

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Attributes, like Nazis or white supremacists that they say define "far right" are not what you get when you turn the dial of a party that wants small government and personal freedom up to 11.

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Correct. As I've said on other posts, a fascist conservative government, if one could even theoretically exist, would have: constitutionally mandated very small government, mandatory gun ownership, a requirement to pay the lowest one could legally pay in taxes, required written and oral communication about political views by everyone, required church membership (though unrestrictive as to religion/faith/etc.), and a legal prohibition to change any of these things.

Ever heard of one of those? Neither have I.

Its easy to take the left to an extreme; its virtually impossible to do that with conservatives since it would violate the principles of conservatism to do so. The left doesn't have that problem.

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You cannot have any of these things without a homogeneous population, end of story. How do you think get to that kind of society from a diverse one? Hans Hermann Hoppe explained how it would happen and to get to it, you would have to go down the Augusto Pinochet path to get it and physically remove a whole bunch of people.

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But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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The last time it was used was Charlottesville? Why do I know this? Because I am and have been in that crowd since 2015.

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Are you sure the Pelosi-Schumer /MSM plotters all the way till 2020 weren't throwing it around a little
bit? Its not that important but I don' remember its use evaporating with Trump's inauguration year --- but yes, by the time of a bit after the mid-terms maybe gone.

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Attributes, like Nazis or white supremacists that they say define "far right" are not what you get when you turn the dial of a party that wants small government and personal freedom up to 11.

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Correct. As I've said on other posts, a fascist conservative government, if one could even theoretically exist, would have: constitutionally mandated very small government, mandatory gun ownership, a requirement to pay the lowest one could legally pay in taxes, required written and oral communication about political views by everyone, required church membership (though unrestrictive as to religion/faith/etc.), and a legal prohibition to change any of these things.

Ever heard of one of those? Neither have I.

Its easy to take the left to an extreme; its virtually impossible to do that with conservatives since it would violate the principles of conservatism to do so. The left doesn't have that problem.

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That's one of the better arguments have read that indicate that any model that puts Nazism on the right because of its nationalism is still wrong. I am not sure if there is a counter to your argument --- yes, up to 11 for conservative/Libertarian may well be anarchy -- all look out for themselves and not tyranny.

Very interesting line of thought and simple illustration.

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Lmao "alt right"

That term died at Charlottesville in 2017. It hasn't been used in forever, how the hell can you be this out of touch? Do you guys only just watch Fox News all day long? Do you have any idea where people get their news nowadays?

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On the contrary my brother. The lying left continues to spew this lie.

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The alt right hasn't been used in nearly a decade.

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https://www.newsweek.com/groyper-charlie-kirk-shooting-nick-fuentes-2129114

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No one who is far right has used the term in a decade. Why are you reading anything the lying press puts out?

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You're welcome.

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Attributes, like Nazis or white supremacists that they say define "far right" are not what you get when you turn the dial of a party that wants small government and personal freedom up to 11.

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Correct. As I've said on other posts, a fascist conservative government, if one could even theoretically exist, would have: constitutionally mandated very small government, mandatory gun ownership, a requirement to pay the lowest one could legally pay in taxes, required written and oral communication about political views by everyone, required church membership (though unrestrictive as to religion/faith/etc.), and a legal prohibition to change any of these things.

Ever heard of one of those? Neither have I.

Its easy to take the left to an extreme; its virtually impossible to do that with conservatives since it would violate the principles of conservatism to do so. The left doesn't have that problem.

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That's one of the better arguments have read that indicate that any model that puts Nazism on the right because of its nationalism is still wrong. I am not sure if there is a counter to your argument --- yes, up to 11 for conservative/Libertarian may well be anarchy -- all look out for themselves and not tyranny.

Very interesting line of thought and simple illustration.

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Regarding nationalism, there's a ton of nationalism on display at the Olympics and World Cup. The founding fathers were nationalists. Abraham Lincoln was a nationalist. Ho Chi Ming was a nationalist. So was Mahatma Gandhi. I always ask leftists who spew the nationalist argument if the aforementioned were fascists. They never have a cogent rebuttal. People of ALL political ideologies engage in nationalism.

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But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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Nah. The left has continued using the term "alt-right" all these years.

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But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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The last time it was used was Charlottesville? Why do I know this? Because I am and have been in that crowd since 2015.

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Are you sure the Pelosi-Schumer /MSM plotters all the way till 2020 weren't throwing it around a little
bit? Its not that important but I don' remember its use evaporating with Trump's inauguration year --- but yes, by the time of a bit after the mid-terms maybe gone.

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I don't watch msm and have not in more than a decade. What they say doesn't matter.

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But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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The last time it was used was Charlottesville? Why do I know this? Because I am and have been in that crowd since 2015.

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Are you sure the Pelosi-Schumer /MSM plotters all the way till 2020 weren't throwing it around a little
bit? Its not that important but I don' remember its use evaporating with Trump's inauguration year --- but yes, by the time of a bit after the mid-terms maybe gone.

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I don't watch msm and have not in more than a decade. What they say doesn't matter.

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Oh, so you may both be correct. You mean the dissident right doesn't use it and Patriot25 was talking about it remaining in use by the Left. Okay.

Ihaven't heard alt-right in forever. I just figured there was just CMs, maga, and ultra-maga on the right these days.

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But Stone Choir is right. Its something of a hasty Left revival. The word had fallen out of use through most the Bidenite era. A link showing it mentioned now is not indicative. Its more like going back to the same old tired playbook.

Was actually surprised when heard it again, because while 2017 sounds way to far, back and more likely its since 2020 on, -- just haven't heard it much of late.

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The last time it was used was Charlottesville? Why do I know this? Because I am and have been in that crowd since 2015.

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Are you sure the Pelosi-Schumer /MSM plotters all the way till 2020 weren't throwing it around a little
bit? Its not that important but I don' remember its use evaporating with Trump's inauguration year --- but yes, by the time of a bit after the mid-terms maybe gone.

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I don't watch msm and have not in more than a decade. What they say doesn't matter.

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Oh, so you may both be correct. You mean the dissident right doesn't use it and Patriot25 was talking about it remaining in use by the Left. Okay.

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The entire reason the alt-right exists is because of the American ridiculous spectrum that has individual liberty (liberalism) on the far right, and government control (authoritarianism) on the far left. It's the most mind numbingly stupid axis ever, and one of the main reasons why so many otherwise conservatives think it's not possible to use government power and be right wing.

Imagine putting Chairman Mao, Charlemagne and Emperor Hirohito on the left, and thinking it tells you something about their political persuasions.

The left is Liberty the right is order, always has been. Low brained republicans in this country cheer for the Antifa Jacobin and think the French monarchists were the bad guys.

Alt-Right is a boogieman the progressive left created to continue to destroy our country.