I thought about this idea after talking to some dad's at my son's football pratice and wanted a sanity check:

With the rapid advancement of AI, many people are rightly concerned about the future of work. Instead of simply providing a Universal Basic Income (UBI), what if we took a page from history and created meaningful work programs, much like the ones implemented during the New Deal under President Franklin D. Roosevelt?
What if there were a federally funded group dedicated to building high-quality, aesthetically pleasing houses in areas where housing costs are out of control.

This new federal entity would own these homes and rent them out at a reasonable rate (or people would have the option to buy them outright), below the current market price. By introducing a new supply of affordable, high-quality rental units, we could naturally drive down both housing rents and home prices across the board. This would not only give people work but also provide places to live.

The culture of this program would be something to be proud of. Imagine a workforce with the same commitment and esprit de corps as firefighters or paramedicspeople dedicated to serving their communities and building a better future.

To ensure accountability and prevent the program from becoming a permanent bureaucracy, it would be built with key, measurable indicators for success. If the program fails to meet these goalssuch as driving down average rents in target areas or providing a specific number of housing units at a reasonable costit would be designed to automatically shrink until it's phased out entirely.

This wouldn't be a handout. It's a way to tackle the housing crisis, create good jobs, and build a more resilient society in the face of technological change.

What'ya think?

Didn't even finish reading.

No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no.
Every bit of that is being very bad around ideas and absolutely not the job of the government.
The job of the Government is to secure the unalienable rights which were endowed upon us by the Creator. Beyond that, you're on your own.

No

Dumb idea.

3rd and 2 said:

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I thought about this idea after talking to some dad's at my son's football pratice and wanted a sanity check:

With the rapid advancement of AI, many people are rightly concerned about the future of work. Instead of simply providing a Universal Basic Income (UBI), what if we took a page from history and created meaningful work programs, much like the ones implemented during the New Deal under President Franklin D. Roosevelt?
What if there were a federally funded group dedicated to building high-quality, aesthetically pleasing houses in areas where housing costs are out of control.

This new federal entity would own these homes and rent them out at a reasonable rate (or people would have the option to buy them outright), below the current market price. By introducing a new supply of affordable, high-quality rental units, we could naturally drive down both housing rents and home prices across the board. This would not only give people work but also provide places to live.

The culture of this program would be something to be proud of. Imagine a workforce with the same commitment and esprit de corps as firefighters or paramedicspeople dedicated to serving their communities and building a better future.

To ensure accountability and prevent the program from becoming a permanent bureaucracy, it would be built with key, measurable indicators for success. If the program fails to meet these goalssuch as driving down average rents in target areas or providing a specific number of housing units at a reasonable costit would be designed to automatically shrink until it's phased out entirely.

This wouldn't be a handout. It's a way to tackle the housing crisis, create good jobs, and build a more resilient society in the face of technological change.

What'ya think?

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The first two bolded statements are a major concern. Our government is already too big and we should be making major cuts before we start talking about additions.

The last bolded detail is great and should apply to every government entity.

I think any program in which the federal government is involved will fail to accomplish the task for which it is designated. The only thing that will be accomplished is the further enrichment of politicians.

More government is never the correct answer.

We are still dealing with problems the New Deal put into place. Let's not use that as a template for anything other than things to avoid.

No. Just give them spoons and have them start digging a new reservoir somewhere and they'll have work for life.

This isn't 1933 anymore.

Can you imagine them putting together a civilian conservation corps now?

Let's pretend you need a job and so you go sign up to work and next to you is some thug from the inner city on the other side of some blue hair freak. So at the end of the day, you've done all the work and when you're walking back to your car, the thug jumps you and Steel Your money and your car and the blue haired freak comes by and takes a picture of your bloody ass on the ground laughing about how the fascist deserved it.

Now a group of investors that got together and carved a niche out that provided such a thing and could make it a profitable business. That sounds like a good idea. Even cut the banks out with owner financing. I know how to build and would entertain any one that knows how to money to ferret this idea out and make a go of it.

OP, I think your heart is in the right place. But I don't trust FedGov in the slightest. Dems, as always, will exploit this program to practically give homes away to their favored groups and deny homes to their disfavored groups (white people). UBI in the age of AI and advanced robotics seems inevitable. But this ain't the way to do it.

Didn't read. No.

high quality and government housing do not belong in the same thought much less as an idea to push for housing reform.

Here's an idea, slash government to essential functions outlined in the constitution and let the market handle the rest.

lol like Frank Underwood's AMWORKS program?

No to more government.

Many of our problems today are from too much government instead of not enough.

No more, and cut the existing federal government footprint by 50% as a starter.

Oscar De La Renta Homes?

All of this has been tried before in one form or fashion and it has always failed.

The problems you are trying to solve have all been created by government intrusion into the free market. They have pushed up the cost of living, have limited the construction of new housing, have reduced employment opportunities, etc.


The ONLY real fix is to roll back those policies and allow the free market to work again. That would increase manufacturing of goods, homes, and jobs. It would literally solve every problem you are trying to.

LOL. Life is not fair.

Work harder, smarter and excel at your current job.

Hopefully AI is an efficiency product and not necessarily a job elimination product. History has shown that industry changing innovation has lead to an increase in industry with more and different types of jobs.

Ironically, the true and pure purpose of higher education is to teach someone how to think. In the new world, Socratic educated people will have a distinct advantage over people who were vocationally educated in college.

Consider Microsoft Excel. It technically enables one person to do the job of 20 bookkeepers. What happened to all those displaced bookkeepers? They are not all wards of the state. They developed other skills from and in the new industries created by the efficiencies of innovation.

History has absolutely shown that government is never the solution. And while AI is a massive disrupter, efficiency in the market is a job creator. The problem is always people will have different roles and jobs.

Cause that's exactly what every Business Data Analyst with an MBA that was laid off due to AI is skilled at, swinging a hammer and framing lumber. Right?

Federal works program are not needed during times of full employment
When the dirt underneath the house is more than the working poor could ever afford building a house on it for them to occupy is not viable

Now possibly when the commercial real estate collapse comes Govt taking these buildings and finding a way to repurpose them instead of them becoming blighted would be a good use for the assets and the unemployed to try and solve

Nice, so not only do you tax the crap out of net income tax payers to give free money to a certain group but you also use that certain group to intentionally destroy the wealth (home asset values) of the group that is paying for them.

Always love a good joke in the morning.

No it is a handout. If you cannot support yourself, then starve.

So a govt-run version of Habitat for Humanity?

OP, this is a terrible idea. Consider yourself sanity checked.

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lol like Frank Underwood's AMWORKS program?

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My first thought. This is a massive entitlement scheme that would fail outright.

I do love the following for all programs in government but as we all know the metrics would be rigged, not followed, goalposts moved if they actually started to hit them, etc.

Bureaucracies are living organisms that will do everything in their power to live another day. They never go away willingly. It takes an outside force to remotely even think about making them extinct.

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To ensure accountability and prevent the program from becoming a permanent bureaucracy, it would be built with key, measurable indicators for success. If the program fails to meet these goalssuch as driving down average rents in target areas or providing a specific number of housing units at a reasonable costit would be designed to automatically shrink until it's phased out entirely.

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Sure! Put AOC in charge, and Omar and Pelosi husbands in charge of the money! Super individuals!!

Government and heart should have no relationship.

oldord said:

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This isn't 1933 anymore.

Can you imagine them putting together a civilian conservation corps now?

Let's pretend you need a job and so you go sign up to work and next to you is some thug from the inner city on the other side of some blue hair freak. So at the end of the day, you've done all the work and when you're walking back to your car, the thug jumps you and Steel Your money and your car and the blue haired freak comes by and takes a picture of your bloody ass on the ground laughing about how the fascist deserved it.

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This was my first thought.

No doubt the PWA and WPA delivered some impressive infrastructure projects -- including many we still use today. But it was a different time. Today, projects like those would be massive grifts designed to funnel money into favored NGOs. Environmental regs would slow everything down. Unions would all have to be paid off. Etc., etc.

And then there's the whole thing with the thug and the blue-haired freak.

The dumbest part of the idea is thinking people would pay rent on time/at all for a federally owned home. Habitat for Humanity has a greater than 10% default rate and those homes are given to people at a hugely discounted rate nowhere close to market rate. There was one neighborhood where the administrator left and a replacement wasn't hired for over a year and when the residents realized no one was watching they all stopped paying and eventually more than half of the neighborhood was foreclosed and evicted.

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The culture of this program would be something to be proud of.

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I'd rather just be proud of people who are willing to put in the work, adapt, and thrive on their own.

3rd and 2 said:

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I thought about this idea after talking to some dad's at my son's football pratice and wanted a sanity check:

With the rapid advancement of AI, many people are rightly concerned about the future of work. Instead of simply providing a Universal Basic Income (UBI), what if we took a page from history and created meaningful work programs, much like the ones implemented during the New Deal under President Franklin D. Roosevelt?
What if there were a federally funded group dedicated to building high-quality, aesthetically pleasing houses in areas where housing costs are out of control.

This new federal entity would own these homes and rent them out at a reasonable rate (or people would have the option to buy them outright), below the current market price. By introducing a new supply of affordable, high-quality rental units, we could naturally drive down both housing rents and home prices across the board. This would not only give people work but also provide places to live.

The culture of this program would be something to be proud of. Imagine a workforce with the same commitment and esprit de corps as firefighters or paramedicspeople dedicated to serving their communities and building a better future.

To ensure accountability and prevent the program from becoming a permanent bureaucracy, it would be built with key, measurable indicators for success. If the program fails to meet these goalssuch as driving down average rents in target areas or providing a specific number of housing units at a reasonable costit would be designed to automatically shrink until it's phased out entirely.

This wouldn't be a handout. It's a way to tackle the housing crisis, create good jobs, and build a more resilient society in the face of technological change.

What'ya think?

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Take 4 minutes and watch.

Didn't read LOL

Bigger government only can function effectively when the people inside it are moral. Since the 1930s, we've become an increasingly less moral nation - especially since we've been importing the 3rd world. THIS is one of the biggest issues right now that we need to address and impacts both fair voting and border security. With a moral population, we can settle a lot of our differences.