I think this will encourage too much abuse of people's rights.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/housing/article/involuntary-treatment-anosognosia-homelessness-law-20808832.php

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https://archive.ph/2025.08.18-115806/https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/housing/article/involuntary-treatment-anosognosia-homelessness-law-20808832.php

I didn't click the link but if it gives the government more power it's a bad idea

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I think this will encourage too much abuse of people's rights.

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Couldn't read it but I disagree. Strongly.

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I didn't click the link but if it gives the government more power it's a bad idea

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That will soon change in Texas when a new criterion is added to the list of reasons for which officers are allowed to detain an individual for evaluation by a mental health professional. Starting Sept. 1, the inability to recognize one's psychiatric condition, or anosognosia, will be grounds for a law enforcement officer to detain an individual if it could lead to harm.

In such cases, a doctor would evaluate the patient's mental health within 12 hours, and, if deemed necessary, could initiate a series of steps that could lead to a judge deciding whether to court-order treatment. Anosognosia is a result of physical changes to the brain, according to the National Alliance on Mental Illness, and is common with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.

The shift is being hailed by families, health professionals, law enforcement and city officials as a game-changer that can lead to individuals getting life-saving care. But people who sought treatment for issues as innocuous as panic attacks and found themselves trapped in facilities with their rights stripped away worry the measure could be abused.

I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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More like you're a diagnosed schizophrenic who is hearing voices but you do not plan to harm yourself or anyone else, AND you refuse to admit you're a schizophrenic = you can be handcuffed and taken to a facility.

I am of the opinion that everyone has the right to be crazy in their own home. In this day & age when doctors are so quick to diagnose people with a mental disorder and medicate, I think this can be abused by family members and officers.

bad idea, especially considering the political leanings of everyone in the pyschiatry field.

We could simplify the law to - if you claim to be trans (a blatantly, outwardly obvious mental condition) then you get to go to mental camp. We would immediately improve public safety.

No brainer.

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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No because they can already place a hold on you if you are a danger to yourself or others

In this case if they stop you and can't tell they can place a hold on you

I'm against because an officer can clearly miss use this if he thinks you are a jerk.

Perhaps if it were limited to family members. I also think that any officer using this power should be subject to review or a chain of command to help prevent miss use.

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Over_ed said:

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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No because they can already place a hold on you if you are a danger to yourself or others

In this case if they stop you and can't tell they can place a hold on you

I'm against because an officer can clearly miss use this if he thinks you are a jerk.

Perhaps if it were limited to family members. I also think that any officer using this power should be subject to review or a chain of command to help prevent miss use.

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All officers are subject to review on every call

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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Over_ed said:

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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No because they can already place a hold on you if you are a danger to yourself or others

In this case if they stop you and can't tell they can place a hold on you

I'm against because an officer can clearly miss use this if he thinks you are a jerk.

Perhaps if it were limited to family members. I also think that any officer using this power should be subject to review or a chain of command to help prevent miss use.

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All officers are subject to review on every call

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Which doesn't stop the hypothetical my getting carted off...without presenting a danger to myself or others.

I get the purpose of this law. I have a nephew that went from great to homeless due to mental illness and is still missing.

But my possible loss of liberty is, for me, too big a price to pay. Besides, no medical field is as big a crap shoot as mental illness diagnosis and treatment.

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Over_ed said:

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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No because they can already place a hold on you if you are a danger to yourself or others

In this case if they stop you and can't tell they can place a hold on you

I'm against because an officer can clearly miss use this if he thinks you are a jerk.

Perhaps if it were limited to family members. I also think that any officer using this power should be subject to review or a chain of command to help prevent miss use.

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Thanks.

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Bocephus said:

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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Over_ed said:

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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No because they can already place a hold on you if you are a danger to yourself or others

In this case if they stop you and can't tell they can place a hold on you

I'm against because an officer can clearly miss use this if he thinks you are a jerk.

Perhaps if it were limited to family members. I also think that any officer using this power should be subject to review or a chain of command to help prevent miss use.

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All officers are subject to review on every call

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Which doesn't stop the hypothetical my getting carted off...without presenting a danger to myself or others.

I get the purpose of this law. I have a nephew that went from great to homeless due to mental illness and is still missing.

But my possible loss of liberty is, for me, too big a price to pay. Besides, no medical field is as big a crap shoot as mental illness diagnosis and treatment.

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You and I agree. I think this law is way too broad and the current ability to put mental health holds on citizens can already be abused.

All I was saying was that the oversight you mentioned is already present.

Got some news for some of yall.

Jerk cops don't need new legislature to detain you needlessly. The bad apples already do that!

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I'm not ssur I get it, but if I tell the officer I am a psycopath with homicidal tendencies, I would be OK, because I recognize my condition?

And conversely I tell the officer there is nothing wrong with me, he could take me away?

Not in favor, as I understand it.

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Catch-22

Poor policy, it will be too easily abused, especially by family of mentally ill who are just tired of dealing with their mentally ill relative.

Can't wait to hear the complaints from people when their 12 hour window expires and a decision isn't made.

Im Gipper said:

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Got some news for some of yall.

Jerk cops don't need new legislature to detain you needlessly. The bad apples already do that!

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And this would give them additional justification