Actually, not a bad idea. I can't remember the last time I got anything other than junk mail.

We could save a lot of money deep sixing the USPS.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3v37plv2edo

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The steep decline in letter volumes has been driven largely by digitalisation, and PostNord announced in March that it will cease letter services at the end of the year.

It will bring to an end four centuries of letter deliveries by the state-owned operation.

A third of its workforce is being let go, as it sheds 2,200 positions in its loss-making letter arm. Instead it will focus on its profitable parcel business, creating 700 new roles.

"Danes hardly receive any letters anymore. It's been going down for years and years," says Kim Pedersen, chief of PostNord Denmark. "They're receiving one letter a month on average, it's not a lot."

Since 2000, the volume of letters the business handles has declined by more than 90%, from around 1.4 billion to 110 million last year, and it continues to fall rapidly.

"We are facing this natural evolution of a digitalised society, earlier than maybe some other countries," Mr Pedersen explains. "In Denmark, we are maybe five or 10 years ahead."

The high cost of sending a letter in Denmark is also a contributing factor behind its decline.

In 2024, a new law opened up the postal market to private competition and took away its exemption from the country's 25% rate of VAT, so the price of a PostNord stamp jumped to 29 Danish krone ($4.55; 3.35) per letter.

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fc2112 said:

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Actually, not a bad idea. I can't remember the last time I got anything other than junk mail.

We could save a lot of money deep sixing the USPS.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3v37plv2edo

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The steep decline in letter volumes has been driven largely by digitalisation, and PostNord announced in March that it will cease letter services at the end of the year.

It will bring to an end four centuries of letter deliveries by the state-owned operation.

A third of its workforce is being let go, as it sheds 2,200 positions in its loss-making letter arm. Instead it will focus on its profitable parcel business, creating 700 new roles.

"Danes hardly receive any letters anymore. It's been going down for years and years," says Kim Pedersen, chief of PostNord Denmark. "They're receiving one letter a month on average, it's not a lot."

Since 2000, the volume of letters the business handles has declined by more than 90%, from around 1.4 billion to 110 million last year, and it continues to fall rapidly.

"We are facing this natural evolution of a digitalised society, earlier than maybe some other countries," Mr Pedersen explains. "In Denmark, we are maybe five or 10 years ahead."

The high cost of sending a letter in Denmark is also a contributing factor behind its decline.

In 2024, a new law opened up the postal market to private competition and took away its exemption from the country's 25% rate of VAT, so the price of a PostNord stamp jumped to 29 Danish krone ($4.55; 3.35) per letter.

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If nothing else they need to move to just 3 times a week and drastically reducing their workforce.

The only time I mail anything is when a company (or more usually, the city or state) doesn't have a digital pay option and I have to mail a check.

I guess I get Christmas cards.

We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

Id move it to once a week myself, or cost more for asap delivery.

Id be awesome to get a convention together to dispose of the usps altogether and we could knock out some other issues as well. Risky game though.

The unions are in too deep with the usps. Talk about a money washing campaign and handouts.

Either cut service to 3 days a week, or privatize it like the Germans did with Deutsche Post.

USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

Move to 3 day a week delivery at most.

valvemonkey91 said:

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We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

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/He's right, you know

valvemonkey91 said:

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We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

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I would call it more of a "make work" program than a "jobs" program since the product they produce is largely pointless anymore.

The only bill we get in the mail is for our trash service every 3 months. Everything else is junk mail that goes in the trash.

Kinda ironic.

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valvemonkey91 said:

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We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

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/He's right, you know

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That implies they work....ITL in Houston here, and we're lucky to get mail delivered twice per week. Packages are marked delivered days before they actually are. These workers are claiming theyre delivering things so they dont get fired for sitting on their asses and only walking the streets twice or thrice a week.

last week my wife received a fedex package. when i opened it there was a USPS box inside.


never opened the box. guess i should have opened to make sure she isnt a CIA agent.

valvemonkey91 said:

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We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

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I don't think it would require an amendment. Article one section 8, gives Congress the power to establish post offices, but not necessarily a requirement that they do so.

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USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

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Are there any appropriations in the federal budget for the USPS ?

Would the 650,000 postal employees just learn to code or what?

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Would the 650,000 postal employees just learn to code or what?

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They can go pick crops, mow lawns and wipe a**** since liberal fear those jobs are being taken away by deportations.

valvemonkey91 said:

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We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

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Pretty sure this is not the case.

It says Congress CAN, not Congress WILL.

ABattJudd said:

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valvemonkey91 said:

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We would have to change the constitution, but yes I agree with you. It is the most antiquated service in the whole fed govt. there is ZERO need for a USPS.

What's NOT in the constitution regarding mail delivery is delivery 6 days per week and hiring 3rd party contractors to handle the "overflow" junk mail.

The USPS the epitome of waste fraud and abuse. It's nothing more than a jobs program for minorities.

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I don't think it would require an amendment. Article one section 8, gives Congress the power to establish post offices, but not necessarily a requirement that they do so.

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Sorry, did not see your post. I agree.

Logos Stick said:

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USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

Move to 3 day a week delivery at most.

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What? The rural people in Staten Island just had their news cut off via NPR and now you want them to only get the written news a few times a week?

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Logos Stick said:

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USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

Move to 3 day a week delivery at most.

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What? The rural people in Staten Island just had their news cut off via NPR and now you want them to only get the written news a few times a week?

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It's terrible for them to be so in the dark out in the wilds of Staten Island. Oddly though, There is this thing called the internet. And also things called cell phones that allow you to follow news stories as they happen. You can also send messages to people who usually respond within minutes. Perhaps the news of these inventions will reach them sometime in the future.

Change it from daily to twice a week.

If you want more, you pay a fee like a subcription.

Not sure I've seen a more egregious burying of the lead than this one.

It costs $4.55 to send a damn letter?! Yes, digitalization is a factor but companies can't afford to do mass mailings at $4.55 a pop and there are few people in anyone's life that are worth spending $4.55 to send a personal letter when you can just email, text, or call them.

Their post office committed suicide with those rates. That's all this is. Maybe it was on purpose.

fc2112 said:

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Actually, not a bad idea. I can't remember the last time I got anything other than junk mail.

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You forgot about the 147 pages of disclosures that your health insurance company sends you every time you fill a $5 prescription.

Doesn't this probably, most likely, maybe, like, disproportionately affect Scandinavians of color?

"Hi, I'm from the government. I have a small amount of trash for you with your name on it, and the name of anyone who has ever lived here."

***takes assorted letters from uniformed person and throws them directly in the trash***

"I'll be back tomorrow with a little bit more. We have an entire system dedicated to getting this trash to you."

lol that sums it up

Seven Costanza said:

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"Hi, I'm from the government. I have a small amount of trash for you with your name on it, and the name of anyone who has ever lived here."

***takes assorted letters from uniformed person and throws them directly in the trash***

"I'll be back tomorrow with a little bit more. We have an entire system dedicated to getting this trash to you."

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Or people who never lived there, yet I get mail with random peoples name on it.

I just write return to sender this person has died.

Hey Nav said:

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USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

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Are there any appropriations in the federal budget for the USPS ?

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They operate every year in the red. Have been since 2007. They borrow from the treasury to cover the loss and those loans are forgiven.

Who pays for the loans?

Logos Stick said:

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Hey Nav said:

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USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

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Are there any appropriations in the federal budget for the USPS ?

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They operate every year in the red. Have been since 2007. They borrow from the treasury to cover the loss and those loans are forgiven.

Who pays for the loans?

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Tax payers of course.

Psycho Bunny said:

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Logos Stick said:

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Hey Nav said:

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USPS is nothing but taxpayer subsidized advertising for small biz and taxpayer subsidized shipping for Amazon.

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Are there any appropriations in the federal budget for the USPS ?

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They operate every year in the red. Have been since 2007. They borrow from the treasury to cover the loss and those loans are forgiven.

Who pays for the loans?

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Tax payers of course.

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Winner!