Since not enough context was provided in the OP and my response couldn't even register in time, here we go (perhaps samurai can provide the ad since I can't find it now in the locked thread):

Massie addresses a lot of this kind of stuff in that recent interview with Theo Von from this week I posted in another thread.

He discusses how he hates huge bills with all kinds of stuff in them and that all issues should be separate simple bills (which I totally agree with him on).

He talks about how they'll always throw in funding for the military into these massive bills filled full of other pork and then when one like him votes against it they'll use it against him for ads that'll say "Thomas Massie voted against supporting the troops".

Looks to me like he was spot on. It's worth a watch here (unfortunately I can't time stamp it because I don't recall exactly when it was):

And to further his point (it would be nice to have the anti Massie ad in this thread btw). This is the clip I was looking to timestamp from the interview:

I’m with @RepThomasMassie on this one. Omnibus bills suck. Break up the bills so we can vote on individual matters, not a bunch of things at once. https://t.co/4ksBIF8D4Q

— Rand Paul (@RandPaul) June 26, 2025

Done

This ad against Thomas Massie is now running in Kentucky. Devastating. pic.twitter.com/7Db3rHGjVd

— Bad Hombre (@joma_gc) June 27, 2025

Thank you. And that ad paid for by MAGA Kentucky is deceiving as hell.

MAGA Kentucky could be a left wing group, who knows

Massie should be considered a leading figure among the GOP.

Instead, the GOP would rather their march to the left and increase big gov all while ostracizing anyone who plants their feet in the conservative right and does not go along with the shift left.

I hope this anti-Massie ad really blows up in their faces, whether MAGA, GOP, or anyone trying to move the GOP to the left.

Rand and Massie

Love it! Fiscal responsibility back in the fight.

f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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Rand and Massie

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The problem with these two is that there aren't enough of them and there never will be for the rest of our lives. So while I respect their principled stances on things and agree with them on most, Republicans absolutely have to seize the day while they can and get stuff passed.

Will Massie's running debt lapel pin go up? Probably. But to me, that's better than seeing our taxes go up and they need to compromise. Just my .02

The problem with both of them is that all they do is present a better way to do things, and then do nothing about it yet still find time to obstruct the GOP. I wish the party would drop them.

Sometimes people argue that Massie doesn't do anything. He has done quite a bit. IIRC he submitted a bill on gun rights - might have been national right to carry or something like that. He submitted a bill to terminate the Dept of Education. He votes no on ridiculous legislation. Also, Congress passed legislation some time ago that mandates all sorts of surveillance tech in new cars. Trump has never said a word about putting a halt to this, but Massie did submit a bill to stop that from taking effect.

Every time Trump has gone after Massie, Massie has gotten more money and more votes. I hope that trend continues.

It's noteworthy that Trump goes after Massie but not Graham or McConnell or others that continually push endless war, endless spending, horrible legislation, etc. Lindsey Graham hijacks US foreign policy and travels abroad to do so, and Trump does nothing. Massie won't support the BBB and Trump wants to go scorched earth.

Trump and Vance are pushing the BBB and citing important provisions within - if those items were so important to them, they should have packaged them into individual bills and run them through the wickets. There are so many poison pills in the BBB, the only ethical thing to do is vote NO and demand the good parts get submitted in individual bills.

Right now, portions of MAGA are telling outright lies about Massie. If they do get him tossed, the replacement is almost guaranteed to be a RINO that will add to the swamp.

Thomas Massie is a great man and true American patriot. Consequently, AIPAC is going to throw millions at whoever runs against him.

Congressman Thomas Massie reveals to Tucker Carlson that his Republican colleagues have an “AIPAC babysitter” to ensure they vote in the interests of Israel at all times.

“It’s the only country that does this,” Massie adds.

Follow: @AFpost pic.twitter.com/zNOA35t32u

— AF Post (@AFpost) June 7, 2024

Massive stood up for a lot of people on the vaccine.

He also correctly predicted the massive inflation in 2020.

Also against the big meat lobby.

samurai_science said:

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MAGA Kentucky could be a left wing group, who knows

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Nope. This is Trump trying to punish anyone in the party that doesn't fully back him.

MAGA Kentucky is affiliated with Trump's official political apparatus. It is led by senior Trump advisers Chris LaCivita and Tony Fabrizio.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/26/trump-thomas-massie-maga-kentucky

johnnyblaze36 said:

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f1ghtintexasaggie said:

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Rand and Massie

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The problem with these two is that there aren't enough of them and there never will be for the rest of our lives. So while I respect their principled stances on things and agree with them on most, Republicans absolutely have to seize the day while they can and get stuff passed.

Will Massie's running debt lapel pin go up? Probably. But to me, that's better than seeing our taxes go up and they need to compromise. Just my .02

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What do you think will happen to your taxes when the governement is forced to do something because the market stops buying the ever increasing debt? Additionally, what happens to the economy at the same time as the government is forced to do a combination of austerity and tax increases. The best time to solve the debt problem was 20 years ago. The next best time is today. Instead we have a BBB that stands for what this counties debt rating will be soon because it adds to spending and increases deficits.

Republicans need to learn from Massie and people say he hasn't done anything, I disagree. By raising these issues, he and Rand get the issues it in the public eye and forces at least some wreckless spending to come out of Washington.

Charles Sullivan said:

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Sometimes people argue that Massie doesn't do anything. He has done quite a bit. IIRC he submitted a bill on gun rights - might have been national right to carry or something like that. He submitted a bill to terminate the Dept of Education. He votes no on ridiculous legislation. Also, Congress passed legislation some time ago that mandates all sorts of surveillance tech in new cars. Trump has never said a word about putting a halt to this, but Massie did submit a bill to stop that from taking effect.

Every time Trump has gone after Massie, Massie has gotten more money and more votes. I hope that trend continues.

It's noteworthy that Trump goes after Massie but not Graham or McConnell or others that continually push endless war, endless spending, horrible legislation, etc. Lindsey Graham hijacks US foreign policy and travels abroad to do so, and Trump does nothing. Massie won't support the BBB and Trump wants to go scorched earth.

Trump and Vance are pushing the BBB and citing important provisions within - if those items were so important to them, they should have packaged them into individual bills and run them through the wickets. There are so many poison pills in the BBB, the only ethical thing to do is vote NO and demand the good parts get submitted in individual bills.

Right now, portions of MAGA are telling outright lies about Massie. If they do get him tossed, the replacement is almost guaranteed to be a RINO that will add to the swamp.

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So much this.

To many on the right are "team first" oriented aiming for what they believe to be small wins but are actually smaller losses.

Calling the big beautiful bill a win, no matter how small, is just plain false and is not how conservatives or even moderates should expect their government to operate. People should be blaming the RINO's that pull the Massie/Rand types to the left rather than blaming the Massie/Rand types for refusing to concede more to the left than they already have.

Good. Hopefully they push that dip**** out of the party

Trump picks fights with the weirdest people.

Yeah, he gots to go. I know he thinks he's being a righteous independent thinker, but he's forgotten the old axiom perfect is the enemy of the good.

He talks about a lot and hasn't accomplished a single thing. He is an ineffective politician.

David Hogg says "hold my beer, Republicans!"

samurai_science said:

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Done

This ad against Thomas Massie is now running in Kentucky. Devastating. pic.twitter.com/7Db3rHGjVd

— Bad Hombre (@joma_gc) June 27, 2025

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Never ever take on Maga and Aipac at the same time. You'll pay.

voting against one these packed up, mixed bills allows your opposition to isolate certain parts in ads and make you look baaaad.

As usual, Republicans and MAGA would rather bash other Republicans instead of spending time and money in order to purge Senate Democrats.

Texas velvet maestro said:

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voting against one these packed up, mixed bills allows your opposition to isolate certain parts in ads and make you look baaaad.

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It's by design.

Its the uniparty giving red meat to voters to keep them focused on their team winning rather than the real issues at hand. A sizeable portion of F16, which is probably one of the most politically knowledgeable group segments, falls for this all the time which hurts their cause in the long run and stifles future Massie and Rand types from getting elected.

Very shortsighted and naive to aim for short term "wins" like the BBB which is actually a loss both in the short and long term.

BTKAG97 said:

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As usual, Republicans and MAGA would rather bash other Republicans instead of spending time and money in order to purge Senate Democrats.

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That's just it, he's not Republican he is a Libertarian that has consistently held up legislation (BBB) on his principles. Fine, but don't expect those same Republicans to praise you and fund you. Principles are one thing, but failure to recognize how Congress functions is another. Our government is designed to prevent extremes, and he doesn't recognize that fact.

Look how long it is taking the "BBB" to try to get through Congress. How long do you think it would take to wrangle hundreds of individual bills through? It is great to be principled, but please don't take a giant dump in the GOP sandbox by doing so.

The problem with Massie is if you are going to oppose the bill almost every single republican supports, you need to craft another bill you prefer that almost every single republican supports. That second part is where Massie's strategy falls flat on its face!

Kansas Kid said:

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samurai_science said:

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MAGA Kentucky could be a left wing group, who knows

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Nope. This is Trump trying to punish anyone in the party that doesn't fully back him.

MAGA Kentucky is affiliated with Trump's official political apparatus. It is led by senior Trump advisers Chris LaCivita and Tony Fabrizio.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/26/trump-thomas-massie-maga-kentucky

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Any real source?

Funky Winkerbean said:

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BTKAG97 said:

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As usual, Republicans and MAGA would rather bash other Republicans instead of spending time and money in order to purge Senate Democrats.

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That's just it, he's not Republican he is a Libertarian that has consistently held up legislation (BBB) on his principles. Fine, but don't expect those same Republicans to praise you and fund you. Principles are one thing, but failure to recognize how Congress functions is another. Our government is designed to prevent extremes, and he doesn't recognize that fact.

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I want Massie defeated

I want MTG defeated

the GOP will be so much stronger once those idiots are gone.

Funky Winkerbean said:

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Our government is designed to prevent extremes, and he doesn't recognize that fact.

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$37 Trillion in debt is proof that statement is false. Claiming Massie is extreme us laughable.

BTKAG97 said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

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Our government is designed to prevent extremes, and he doesn't recognize that fact.

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$37 Trillion in debt is proof that statement is false. Claiming Massie is extreme us laughable.

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In comparison to the other people in Congress, he's extreme. What's your explanation for why his ideas don't get traction, support, or PASS? I'll answer it for you, his views are extreme right. Don't confuse my position on this as disagreement. I know his wants are needed, but reality says they won't get broad scale support. Do you not see this?

samurai_science said:

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Kansas Kid said:

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samurai_science said:

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MAGA Kentucky could be a left wing group, who knows

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Nope. This is Trump trying to punish anyone in the party that doesn't fully back him.

MAGA Kentucky is affiliated with Trump's official political apparatus. It is led by senior Trump advisers Chris LaCivita and Tony Fabrizio.

https://www.axios.com/2025/06/26/trump-thomas-massie-maga-kentucky

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Any real source?

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It has been reported by a number of other sites that looked up the FEC filing that reported the officers and structure. It was set up a week ago.

Put another way, if it wasn't Trump affiliated and was a bunch of liberals, Trump and his allies would be poking fun at them and saying they are finally getting smart.

Massie is extreme in one way only. He hates and will not vote for large bills. I've heard him say just that many a time on the early morning am radio.

I respect Thomas and will continue to vote for him as I agree with his principled stance.