The Paradox of the Anti-Interventionists (relating to internal policy)

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Phatbob
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Sorry for yet nother thread, but this doesn't seem to fit in any current ones. There has been a theme I've noticed among the posters here that are against any involvement in Iran, and that is we need to keep all our concerns internal.

The problem with this verson of "America first" ideology is that our government is already internally interventionalist. It is so involved in every aspect of our lives that it literally cannot be confined by our own borders. Our border politics affects the economic outook of every country in this hemisphere. Our energy policy has shaped world politics for generations. Our military cannot be the best in the world without projecting that outwardly.

I'm not advocating for a Neocon position, I'm just pointing out that we cannot be strictly anti-interventionalist until we get the government out of what it is doing internally first.
Sims
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I think that's a mis-read on America First.

The way I would understand America First is the motivation behind action should be to primarily and immediately benefit the USA rather than more regional alliance interests, amongst other things.

It's not non-interventionist necessarily, it's just a more self interested version of our foreign policy, and for that matter, an integration of fiscal and monetary policy as a component of foreign policy.
Phatbob
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I've just noticed a correlation here between those who claim to be "America First", but also strictly against any intervention in foreign conflict, and also don't want to deal with the internal overreaching nature of our government internally. Those are properties of government that cannot coexist.
Sims
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Fair point - maybe America First is better iterated as, Americans First...then the State is less integrated into the dogma maybe?
Tea Party
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Some people want big government but only if it's their big government. Foreign affairs being secondary to them and big government at home can be justified through that lens.

That could fit both sides of the aisle and the desire for big gov as long as it's their teams big gov is a huge reason why our country has been circling the drain.
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Sid Farkas
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The Israelis made their decision and deserve every bit of tech, hardware, intel we can provide.

That said, am I the only one who thinks the new US anti-Iran warhawks have forgotten the lessons of the (recent) past? The narratives are 100% indistinguishable from the last failed wars.
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