I have a suspicion there are silent movements taking place that are affecting not just our nation, but others too:

1. The powers that be in real estate benefit from broken homes because a family now needs two places of residence, typically. (Breakup nuclear families)

2. Low birth rates. The pro choice crowd may believe in what they're doing, but doesn't it seem kind of odd that low birth rates are becoming a problem in more and more countries? I know we give Soros a hard time but I doubt he came up with the one child policy in China nor is he responsible for the low rate in N/S Korea Japan, etc.

Sounds like some movement is trying to decrease the world population cross borders. No one talks about countries where the birth rates are awesome.

3. Who came up with the idea that it's okay for minors to question their gender, spend time on this? What is a woman, men in girls sports, etc.

All this to say that perhaps there's something larger at play to divide us and make us weak. I'd point to Satan. Perhaps a group of people have invaded our country from outside to intentionally set us against each other? I definitely commend what Poland is doing, keeping outsiders out.

Movements that we're unaware of?

No.1 is really interesting. I've never thought of it that way.

I would definitely agree that outside forces, whether they be domestic, foreign, or spiritual, are to blame for the increased divisiveness we see in our country. I don't think it's as simple as liberal vs. conservative.

But looking at #2, there could be a simpler explanation for it. In any given species(i.e., animal and human), there is a limit to how many the Earth can sustain. Population cintrol could be happening due to outside influence, but it was also guaranteed to happen eventually.

Edit to say: My belief in it being outside forces is the only reason I bother interacting here. I don't think you and I or other F16ers are that much different. Otherwise, I'd just asking for abuse.

A silent movement is usually what I pray for--and am sadly denied--after I eat at Pepe's Taco.

When I saw "movement" and "#2", I thought this was about something else

dds08 said:

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Perhaps a group of people have invaded our country from outside to intentionally set us against each other?

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The DUUUUUUUUUUTCCCCCCCHHHHHH!!!!

It is, but it runs contrary to point #2. You'd think they'd also want larger families if #1 is true.

Human nature...sadly driven by more bad than good. Mankind is susceptible to greed, pleasure, and self.

Is silent movement the same as conspiracy theory?

This is one where there's nothing nefarious going on behind the scenes. Birth rates changed because the world changed. 200 years ago we all lived on family farms and children were free labor. Secondarily 100 years we didn't have the medicines we have today and the infant mortality rate was higher than it is today. Those two things combined necessitated a high birth rate. Today most of the advanced world live in cities and work in factories or offices making children expensive and disruptive to life with the payoff being spiritual and/or emotional. We don't need the free labor and they're a lot of work so people have fewer of them. Now factor in that the infant mortality rate is significantly lower and you have less need than ever to have children.

dds08 said:

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I have a suspicion there are silent movements taking place that are affecting not just our nation, but others too:

1. The powers that be in real estate benefit from broken homes because a family now needs two places of residence, typically. (Breakup nuclear families)

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I mentioned it in another thread this week, but this country needs to normalize multi-generational households again. I don't think it's a coincidence that as multi-generational households declined the divorce rate went up. I'm sure there are lots of other factors that contributed to the divorce rate but losing that financial/communal support had to be a big contributing factor for a lot of couples.

whatthehey78 said:

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Human nature...sadly driven by more bad than good. Mankind is susceptible to greed, pleasure, and self.

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Greed is good. Pleasure is good. Self is good.

CheeseSndwch said:

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dds08 said:

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I have a suspicion there are silent movements taking place that are affecting not just our nation, but others too:

1. The powers that be in real estate benefit from broken homes because a family now needs two places of residence, typically. (Breakup nuclear families)

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I mentioned it in another thread this week, but this country needs to normalize multi-generational households again. I don't think it's a coincidence that as multi-generational households declined the divorce rate went up. I'm sure there are lots of other factors that contributed to the divorce rate but losing that financial/communal support had to be a big contributing factor for a lot of couples.

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I don't know, I think for a lot of people having to live with the in-laws would make the divorce rate spike.

tysker said:

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whatthehey78 said:

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Human nature...sadly driven by more bad than good. Mankind is susceptible to greed, pleasure, and self.

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Greed is good. Pleasure is good. Self is good.

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Howdy, Mr. Gekko!

Elites want less people. They want to squeeze the middle class and keep plenty of plebes to be under them.

LOYAL AG said:

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This is one where there's nothing nefarious going on behind the scenes. Birth rates changed because the world changed. 200 years ago we all lived on family farms and children were free labor. Secondarily 100 years we didn't have the medicines we have today and the infant mortality rate was higher than it is today. Those two things combined necessitated a high birth rate. Today most of the advanced world live in cities and work in factories or offices making children expensive and disruptive to life with the payoff being spiritual and/or emotional. We don't need the free labor and they're a lot of work so people have fewer of them. Now factor in that the infant mortality rate is significantly lower and you have less need than ever to have children.

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Yes, #2 is being way overthought. Simply a function of "progress" in western societies - industrialization, women voting and in the workforce, etc.

Lower birth rates happen in inverse proportion as a society gets more advanced.

the only movement thats silent is the resistance. Populism will always win and none of the ideas of the global depopulation cult are popular.