Fertility clinic bombing in Palm Springs, CA

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Fat Black Swan
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A car bomb exploded outside the American Reproductive Centers fertility clinic in Palm Springs killing the suspect and injuring four others. The FBI classified the incident as an intentional act of terrorism. The clinic's IVF lab and embryos were unharmed.

The guy held nihilistic and "pro-mortalist" views, opposed in vitro fertilization (IVF) and expressed anger over existing without consent in a 30-minute audio recording.



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"And these people call themselves Christians?"

The alleged manifesto of the suicide bomber explicitly says he rejects God and would choose Satan if he believed in any of it.

Guy Edward Bartkus, 25, of Palm Springs, has been formally identified as the pro-abortion/anti-natal suicide bomber.

Bartkus was extremely active on @Reddit, like other recent violent extremist suspects. He posted regularly on the r/antinatalism subreddit. A purported online manifesto posted by Bartkus says he planned the bombing as "warfare" against the pro-life movement.

Some influencer accounts had spread viral lies that the bomber was a Christian nationalist.
Fat Black Swan
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Accidental angry emoji
AggiePetro07
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Intersectionality and populism have made for some strange bedfellows and frustrating deciphering of motives and affiliations the last few years.
flown-the-coop
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Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.
Rapier108
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Guy was a lunatic, which is why the story has already dropped off the front page.

Can't blame it Trump, MAGA, or the political right in general so down the memory hole it goes.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
AggiePetro07
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flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


No matter how absurd I write it, it still doesn't measure up.

They believe it's unethical and immoral to give birth to people without that person's consent…WTH?
YouBet
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When did antinatalist become a thing? I swear we get new terms for crap every week.
YokelRidesAgain
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This a-hole should have protested his own birth by jumping off of a tall building.
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MENTALLY ILL
BonfireNerd04
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Him being a left-winger will cause this story to get memory-holed.
BigRobSA
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AggiePetro07 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


No matter how absurd I write it, it still doesn't measure up.

They believe it's unethical and immoral to give birth to people without that person's consent…WTH?
Wait....






.....what?!
ABATTBQ11
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flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


Pro-natalist and pro-life are two different things. Pro-life is basically anti-abortion. Pro-natalist goes a step further and believes in the encouragement of having kids and a high birthrate. Anti-natalists are just nihilists who hate kids and don't think anyone should reproduce at all.
BonfireNerd04
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ABATTBQ11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


Pro-natalist and pro-life are two different things. Pro-life is basically anti-abortion. Pro-natalist goes a step further and believes in the encouragement of having kids and a high birthrate. Anti-natalists are just nihilists who hate kids and don't think anyone should reproduce at all.
Yep, there's a Voluntary Human Extinction Movement that promotes just that.
Sid Farkas
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I used to live part time just several blocks from the clinic. The windows got blown out at my liquor store (sweet little Asian gal owns and operates it).
It's a weird af town, but nevertheless tight knit. T&P's for all affected.
BigRobSA
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Sid Farkas said:

I used to live part time...
What did you do the other time, die?
ABATTBQ11
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BonfireNerd04 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


Pro-natalist and pro-life are two different things. Pro-life is basically anti-abortion. Pro-natalist goes a step further and believes in the encouragement of having kids and a high birthrate. Anti-natalists are just nihilists who hate kids and don't think anyone should reproduce at all.
Yep, there's a Voluntary Human Extinction Movement that promotes just that.


They should just off themselves and set a good example
BonfireNerd04
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ABATTBQ11 said:

BonfireNerd04 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


Pro-natalist and pro-life are two different things. Pro-life is basically anti-abortion. Pro-natalist goes a step further and believes in the encouragement of having kids and a high birthrate. Anti-natalists are just nihilists who hate kids and don't think anyone should reproduce at all.
Yep, there's a Voluntary Human Extinction Movement that promotes just that.


They should just off themselves and set a good example
I've noticed that people who complain about world overpopulation rarely count themselves among the "extra" people.
Martels Hammer
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I made the mistake of reading a tiny bit of the bomber's thoughts. It was a completely new type of crazy to me, one that I have never encountered.

He had friends but they were also as twisted as he was.
TAMUallen
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Another right wing conservative attack. Wait or is that an attack on the right and conservatives? It's getting hard to even joke now because it's 99% leftist attacks
Kenneth_2003
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YokelRidesAgain said:

This a-hole should have protested his own birth by jumping off of a tall building.

Head over to San Fran, take a walk to the middle of the Golden Gate and just turn to the right.

Same result with a lot less mess.
YokelRidesAgain
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Kenneth_2003 said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

This a-hole should have protested his own birth by jumping off of a tall building.

Head over to San Fran, take a walk to the middle of the Golden Gate and just turn to the right.

Same result with a lot less mess.
I was going to suggest that, but they have a net now.

https://www.goldengate.org/district/district-projects/suicide-deterrent-net/
BonfireNerd04
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YokelRidesAgain said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

This a-hole should have protested his own birth by jumping off of a tall building.

Head over to San Fran, take a walk to the middle of the Golden Gate and just turn to the right.

Same result with a lot less mess.
I was going to suggest that, but they have a net now.

https://www.goldengate.org/district/district-projects/suicide-deterrent-net/
Well, we'll just have to find another bridge or tall building that doesn't have such protective measures.
ts5641
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A leftist killed himself to bomb a pro-life clinic. Oh the irony.
JamesPShelley
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Sid Farkas said:

I used to live part time just several blocks from the clinic. The windows got blown out at my liquor store (sweet little Asian gal owns and operates it).
It's a weird af town, but nevertheless tight knit. T&P's for all affected.
WAF town hits the spot.
G. hirsutum Ag
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Another example that vegans aren't capable of rational thought because they are malnourished
"Trust me, I'm a scientist"

"A liberal with a pen is a true weapon of mass destruction"
LOYAL AG
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The first 4 months of Trump 2.0 has featured an awful lot of terrorism from the political left. Teslas. This idiot. I'm sure there's more. I feel like we need a thread just to keep track of it all. Kind of thinking we need to encourage them to keep it confined to a (un)holy month like the Muslims do with their annual Ramadan Bombathon.
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Rapier108 said:

Guy was a lunatic, which is why the story has already dropped off the front page.

Can't blame it Trump, MAGA, or the political right in general so down the memory hole it goes.
Do not put any thing past Chuck Schumer. He would blame Trump for a bad haircut.
HTownAg98
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Ummmmm….
ME92
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BonfireNerd04 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

BonfireNerd04 said:

ABATTBQ11 said:

flown-the-coop said:

Pro-natalist added to the "I know I am talking to a lib" library.


Pro-natalist and pro-life are two different things. Pro-life is basically anti-abortion. Pro-natalist goes a step further and believes in the encouragement of having kids and a high birthrate. Anti-natalists are just nihilists who hate kids and don't think anyone should reproduce at all.
Yep, there's a Voluntary Human Extinction Movement that promotes just that.


They should just off themselves and set a good example
I've noticed that people who complain about world overpopulation rarely count themselves among the "extra" people.
About 6 years ago I saw an article about a full grown male suing his parents because he didn't ask to be born. I think the dude was Indian but living in Europe at the time of the lawsuit? The comments on the article thought the dude was a joke or just hated his parents. The lawyers interviewed referenced in the article didn't reject the concept of kids suing parents for their birth.

If you squint a bit, you can see some of the white anti-white types leaning toward this 'extinction movement' wackiness.

We have a huge mental illness/lack of mental development problem in the developed world and stuff like this attracts them with the siren song of "It's not your fault! It's somebody else's fault and they should be punished!".
HollywoodBQ
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BonfireNerd04 said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

Kenneth_2003 said:

YokelRidesAgain said:

This a-hole should have protested his own birth by jumping off of a tall building.

Head over to San Fran, take a walk to the middle of the Golden Gate and just turn to the right.

Same result with a lot less mess.
I was going to suggest that, but they have a net now.

https://www.goldengate.org/district/district-projects/suicide-deterrent-net/
Well, we'll just have to find another bridge or tall building that doesn't have such protective measures.
The number of suicides off the Golden Gate Bridge is a closely guarded secret.

It's certainly been hundreds over the years but I don't know how many per year.

Looks like it's been about 30/year after they put up additional deterrents - 20 years ago.
https://www.goldengate.org/january-2024-update-on-the-golden-gate-bridge-suicide-deterrent-system/
flown-the-coop
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There was a documentary, The Bridge, from about 20 years ago about the suicides (and suicide attempts) from the bridge.

I have not watched in years but I believe it gave some insight into why people choose the bridge for this act.
ABATTBQ11
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HTownAg98 said:


Ummmmm….



You never stood a match on the side of the box and flicked it so it ignited in midair or lined them up in playdough so they'd ignite each other like a love of dominoes?
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