More fed employee news - two perspectives

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InfantryAg
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Sorry, long post...

First, the unnecessary government employee who thinks she is owed a position…

Trump cancelled the Presidential Management Fellows program, firing a few thousand employees in the program.
https://federalnewsnetwork.com/workforce/2025/02/presidential-management-fellows-at-a-loss-after-trump-orders-programs-elimination/

from the article:
"Bianca Nelson had been employed as a fellow at the Department of Housing and Urban Development. She was six months away from completing the PMF program at her agency, where she had been working directly with New York and New Jersey residents who were dealing with complex housing issues. Her job was to help local residents avoid eviction and homelessness, figure out how to get out of a shelter or learn how to buy a home.
Nelson had planned to convert into a permanent federal position and spend her career in public service. But on Feb. 14, she received a three-sentence email from her agency informing her that she was terminated, effective immediately.
"I had wanted to retire out of this job. I did not have a plan B," Nelson said in an interview. "I didn't think I was going to have to job search again anytime soon. I've been spending the last week trying to get myself together and figure out where I want to go next."

Despite being fired, Nelson plans to return to public service as soon as possible.
"I absolutely refuse to be bullied out of public service," she said. "I will do whatever it is that I have to do to try and help people and help the public."

Pretty disgusting.


Now, a different perspective…

If you're not familiar with the Pareto Principle, it's the general rule that 20% of people do 80% of the work. The actual number can vary, but the principle is the same.

As many of you know, most Probationary employees were laid off, because they are usually in their first year of federal service and can be fired for no reason. However, some career employees take a new position or a promotion and sometimes become probationary again, (as a technicality).

One 18-year employee I know, just did that. She technically took another position a few months ago, for the convenience of the government. It was actually the same position but for two smaller offices, instead of just the one. No good reason to have two separate employees when one could handle both offices.

She is an admin officer and so takes care of all administrative duties to include employee travel, property book management, purchasing and pretty much anything that comes up. Better to have a lower paid employee doing those tasks than a bunch of higher paid ones who should be working on their actual job.

So now she's unemployed and others will have to pick it up. This means law enforcement who should be out of the office working will spend more time behind a desk taking care of admin duties.

Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right. Losing your retirement after 18 years is messed up whether it be private or govt employment. Losing your health insurance when you've been coming to work while fighting cancer is messed up.

A significant difference between the PMF employee who was fire and this employee is that this employee is the 1% of people doing 90% of the work. I could call her at 2a.m. with a question and she would answer the phone, even on a weekend.

She wasn't the intended target of laying off probationary employees, just bad timing for her. I understand DOGE doesn't have the time or resources to use a scalpel instead of a hatchet to trim the fat of the federal behemoth; There's so much fat. I just thought I would put a face on one employee who is the actual model government employee. She can work in the private sector, but she's a little older and with the health issues...

Plus, losing her decreases our productivity. She'll probably be replaced with a slacker govt employee.

I still support thinning the government and actually place the blame for her on the department / agency. The VA made a list of who was essential (doctors, nurses etc.) and got exemptions approved. I think some of the other agencies are doing malicious compliance to make it look bad, or they're in denial of what's coming.

Low hanging fruit has been done, time to evaluate GS12's and above (usually management) to see who is needed. IMO, that's where the real fat lies.
91AggieLawyer
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Quote:

Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?
Picard
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Get rid of them. All of them.

Return the power to the states!

Stat Monitor Repairman
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Department of Housing and Urban Development
Not a core function of the federal government.

Keep this train rollin'

Bring back the Articles of Confederation!
ABATTBQ11
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91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs.

Accountability for... what? She did a necessary task for 18 years and got laid off on a whim. What exactly did she do to warrant being fired while others keep their jobs? The only criteria for her being let go is that she took a different position to do the work of two people instead. If you and to claim accountability, then maybe start with performance instead of probationary hires.
backintexas2013
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So the person in the story is telling her side. Maybe she was a bad employee and they finally saw a way to can her. All we have is her reasoning.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs
Everybody on here probably been laid off, downsized, Enron'ed, taken out by the '08 crisis, taken out by covid or had their company go tits up for whatever reason.

Every federal employee on EZ-street all through covid.

For most folks it ain't malicious, it's just a matter of the gravy train rolling to a stop and our ass ain't on it this time.
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91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


Have you read this board? There are dozens of posters gloating about people losing their jobs.

I'm 100% in favor of trimming the fat. God knows there's plenty. But it also needs to be accompanied by both hiring reform and by retention and personnel management reform. It shouldn't take 6-9 months or more to hire for most federal positions, and managers need to be able to both recognize talent and trim dead weight without the roadblocks currently in place.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs.

Accountability for... what? She did a necessary task for 18 years and got laid off on a whim. What exactly did she do to warrant being fired while others keep their jobs? The only criteria for her being let go is that she took a different position to do the work of two people instead. If you and to claim accountability, then maybe start with performance instead of probationary hires.
I'm pleased the government is being downsized. 80% of the people involved in it are absolutely useless and a waste of my tax dollars. There will always be sob stories. But sorry. Maybe they should have thought about that before getting involved in the biggest money laundering operation in history.

You can be an administrative assistant at literally any company in any town. If your talents are desired, you will be fine. And the government will be better off as it continues to shrink in size.
Krautag81
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Lay-offs and downsizing can happen to unionized employees in a similar fashion. Seniority……if you don't have enough and your a good worker you're gone as well.
BadMoonRisin
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The irony is that these are the same people that:

a.) cheered on the shuttering of small businesses due to a weak ass cold virus
b.) cheered on their workforce being purged of people that wouldnt bow down to the altar of Pfizer and Moderna
c.) not 8 months later were absolutely furious and indignant about the possibility of a government shutdown...when every single one of these worthless lifers know deep down inside that what this means is they will get a taxpayer funded PTO.
InfantryAg
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91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?
Sorry, wrong choice of words? Probably should have said "that doesn't make it good (at least not automatically)."

Lots of people here think it sucks when they get fired, but it's OK when someone else does. A version of envy or just plain schadenfreude.

People being fired because of a lack of productivity is fine. Otherwise it sucks for people, private sector or military or govt. It's easy to hate on all govt employees when you're not objective. The 20% doing 80% of the work are the ones we should be keeping.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs.

Accountability for... what? She did a necessary task for 18 years and got laid off on a whim. What exactly did she do to warrant being fired while others keep their jobs? The only criteria for her being let go is that she took a different position to do the work of two people instead. If you and to claim accountability, then maybe start with performance instead of probationary hires.


If they took the time to do a careful review of every firing then it would be years before any meaningful cuts got done. And by then a dem could be in power and it would be too late.

It is much better for the country overall to fire everyone quickly and then rehire as needed.

Private corps do that all the time.

I have known enough government employees who took the job because it was a guaranteed paycheck for very little work that it makes it very difficult to sympathize.

It would be good for them personally to have to go out and experience the stress and competition that goes along with most private sector jobs.

They can use the opportunity to become better people and learn

Maybe even learn to code?

Any good surgeon is acutely aware of the fact that when you remove a cancer from the body you have to remove some good tissue to make sure you get all the cancer out of the body. It's called ensuring that you get a clean margin.

If you don't get all the cancer because you are afraid to remove some healthy tissue then the patient dies.

Our country has a cancer that is sucking the lifeblood from it and that is the rampant fraud and waste of the government dependence and beaurocracy. Some decent people are going to lose their jobs. The hope is that if they are needed they get rehired. If they don't then they can use the opportunity just like anyone else to grow, learn more skills, and get a new job.

Innocent people get their lives turned upside down all the time.

It is ridiculous that so many government employees have been so thoroughly insulated from the realities of hard work and the harshness pf the real job market for so long.
InfantryAg
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Heineken-Ashi said:


I'm pleased the government is being downsized. 80% of the people involved in it are absolutely useless and a waste of my tax dollars. There will always be sob stories. But sorry. Maybe they should have thought about that before getting involved in the biggest money laundering operation in history.

You can be an administrative assistant at literally any company in any town. If your talents are desired, you will be fine. And the government will be better off as it continues to shrink in size.
I'm pleased the govt is being downsized t0o. 80% of the govt employees are useless and a waste of tax dollars.

Not sure what that has to do with the 2nd employee I mentioned.

You could just post TLTR if you weren't going to read the whole post.
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BadMoonRisin said:

The irony is that these are the same people that:

a.) cheered on the shuttering of small businesses due to a weak ass cold virus
b.) cheered on their workforce being purged of people that wouldnt bow down to the altar of Pfizer and Moderna
c.) not 8 months later were absolutely furious and indignant about the possibility of a government shutdown...where any of these worthless lifers know deep down inside that what this means is they will get a taxpayer funded PTO.


Nice bit of hyperbole. But that doesn't fit many, if not most, government employees. My dad worked for DOE for years after retiring from the Army. He met his wife there, and they are both staunch Republicans. And there are plenty more. And now a lot of them are losing their jobs. I'm for cutting government, but the gloating is in poor taste.
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91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


I have to be honest here. When it comes to the instruments of the blood sucking leech of the IRS, I have **** little sympathy. Only a sack of **** would go work for them. Good riddance.

Most people never have to deal with the IRS on your ass. They have their taxes withheld every paycheck without any idea what business owners deal with.
Urban Ag
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This. And that's how it works in the corporate world, hell even the small business world.

Ship is sinking. You have to move fast. You don't always get it right. The longer you draw it out the higher the risk of sinking is.

Life is unfair.
AgBQ-00
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Life is tough. Wear a helmet. Fair has nothing to do with rifs/downsizing. They are learning a lesson that literally everyone in the private sector lives with daily. Your job is not guaranteed.
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InfantryAg said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?
Sorry, wrong choice of words? Probably should have said "that doesn't make it good (at least not automatically)."

Lots of people here think it sucks when they get fired, but it's OK when someone else does. A version of envy or just plain schadenfreude.

People being fired because of a lack of productivity is fine. Otherwise it sucks for people, private sector or military or govt. It's easy to hate on all govt employees when you're not objective. The 20% doing 80% of the work are the ones we should be keeping.
You are being disingenuous. You know exactly why she got fired. Because most of the fed civilian employees are career. They are virtually impossible to terminate. Career conditional is also hard to remove. Probationary employees are the low hanging fruit. Every federal employee knows that when they reclassify as probationary, it comes with a risk. She lost her bet.

Excising a large percentage of fed employees is necessary and desirable. To do it quickly, probationary employees are in the splash zone. Eliminate them.
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InfantryAg said:

Heineken-Ashi said:


I'm pleased the government is being downsized. 80% of the people involved in it are absolutely useless and a waste of my tax dollars. There will always be sob stories. But sorry. Maybe they should have thought about that before getting involved in the biggest money laundering operation in history.

You can be an administrative assistant at literally any company in any town. If your talents are desired, you will be fine. And the government will be better off as it continues to shrink in size.
I'm pleased the govt is being downsized t0o. 80% of the govt employees are useless and a waste of tax dollars.

Not sure what that has to do with the 2nd employee I mentioned.

You could just post TLTR if you weren't going to read the whole post.
I read every word, hence my last paragraph downplaying her boohoo and telling her to take her talents to the private sector.
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Tom Fox said:

InfantryAg said:

91AggieLawyer said:

Quote:

Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.
Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?
Sorry, wrong choice of words? Probably should have said "that doesn't make it good (at least not automatically)."

Lots of people here think it sucks when they get fired, but it's OK when someone else does. A version of envy or just plain schadenfreude.

People being fired because of a lack of productivity is fine. Otherwise it sucks for people, private sector or military or govt. It's easy to hate on all govt employees when you're not objective. The 20% doing 80% of the work are the ones we should be keeping.
You are being disingenuous. You know exactly why she got fired. Because most of the fed civilian employees are career. They are virtually impossible to terminate. Career conditional is also hard to remove. Probationary employees are the low hanging fruit. Every federal employee knows that when they reclassify as probationary, it comes with a risk. She lost her bet.

Excising a large percentage of fed employees is necessary and desirable. To do it quickly, probationary employees are in the splash zone. Eliminate them.
Not disingenuous. I said why she got fired. She shouldn't have been put back on probationary status, but she was. She did lose that bet.

If she was a slacker, she would have just kept doing this for one office and then she would be a slacker who still had a govt job.

She's the exception to most of the probationary people getting fired. But you don't make rules for the exceptions, I got that, just pointing out that this occasionally also affects the productive employees.

If you had changed from ATF to another 1811 job, would you have been on probationary? Last time I changed agencies, I maintained my status, but I don't know what the rules are for other agencies.

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Heineken-Ashi said:

InfantryAg said:

Heineken-Ashi said:


I'm pleased the government is being downsized. 80% of the people involved in it are absolutely useless and a waste of my tax dollars. There will always be sob stories. But sorry. Maybe they should have thought about that before getting involved in the biggest money laundering operation in history.

You can be an administrative assistant at literally any company in any town. If your talents are desired, you will be fine. And the government will be better off as it continues to shrink in size.
I'm pleased the govt is being downsized t0o. 80% of the govt employees are useless and a waste of tax dollars.

Not sure what that has to do with the 2nd employee I mentioned.

You could just post TLTR if you weren't going to read the whole post.
I read every word, hence my last paragraph downplaying her boohoo and telling her to take her talents to the private sector.
Then your reading comprehension needs improvement.
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InfantryAg said:

Tom Fox said:

InfantryAg said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.
Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?
Sorry, wrong choice of words? Probably should have said "that doesn't make it good (at least not automatically)."

Lots of people here think it sucks when they get fired, but it's OK when someone else does. A version of envy or just plain schadenfreude.

People being fired because of a lack of productivity is fine. Otherwise it sucks for people, private sector or military or govt. It's easy to hate on all govt employees when you're not objective. The 20% doing 80% of the work are the ones we should be keeping.
You are being disingenuous. You know exactly why she got fired. Because most of the fed civilian employees are career. They are virtually impossible to terminate. Career conditional is also hard to remove. Probationary employees are the low hanging fruit. Every federal employee knows that when they reclassify as probationary, it comes with a risk. She lost her bet.

Excising a large percentage of fed employees is necessary and desirable. To do it quickly, probationary employees are in the splash zone. Eliminate them.
Not disingenuous. I said why she got fired. She shouldn't have been put back on probationary status, but she was. She did lose that bet.

If she was a slacker, she would have just kept doing this for one office and then she would be a slacker who still had a govt job.

She's the exception to most of the probationary people getting fired. But you don't make rules for the exceptions, I got that, just pointing out that this occasionally also affects the productive employees.

If you had changed from ATF to another 1811 job, would you have been on probationary? Last time I changed agencies, I maintained my status, but I don't know what the rules are for other agencies.




When I switched from INS 1811 GS12-3 to an ATF 1811 GS9-7, I went from Career to Probationary. I knew it was a risk but 6c positions are rarely RIFed, so it was a calculated risk.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs.

Accountability for... what? She did a necessary task for 18 years and got laid off on a whim. What exactly did she do to warrant being fired while others keep their jobs? The only criteria for her being let go is that she took a different position to do the work of two people instead. If you and to claim accountability, then maybe start with performance instead of probationary hires.


I was top performer on my team at a previous company. Management decided to outsource most of our functions to a 3rd party company. Team of 10 was getting cut to 2. But who to keep? They went by seniority and I was NOT one of the top 2 most senior, so I got laid off.

By your logic....what did I do to warrant being fired, other than being part of the 20% that does 80% of the work?
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The Presidential Management Fellow program was actually one of the best - if not only - ways to hire really talented/competitive people into the government.

You get selected as a PMF in your last year of grad school. It's extremely competitive to get picked - application and interview process for a limited number of slots. The benefit of the PMF designation is that you don't have to go through the normal hiring process and wait months and months to hear back about a job. If an agency has a vacancy they can hire a PMF directly - and quickly. Some agencies target PMFs into specific jobs but others don't.

Most top tier graduate school graduates will already have a job lined up by the time they graduate - especially in competitive fields like accounting, finance, etc. If the government wants to have a shot at top graduates, they need some form of an accelerated hiring program. Otherwise you get the applicants who are still looking for a job 18 months after they graduate and will take anything just to get health insurance - that is not the sort of people you want the government to be hiring.
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InfantryAg said:

Heineken-Ashi said:

InfantryAg said:

Heineken-Ashi said:


I'm pleased the government is being downsized. 80% of the people involved in it are absolutely useless and a waste of my tax dollars. There will always be sob stories. But sorry. Maybe they should have thought about that before getting involved in the biggest money laundering operation in history.

You can be an administrative assistant at literally any company in any town. If your talents are desired, you will be fine. And the government will be better off as it continues to shrink in size.
I'm pleased the govt is being downsized t0o. 80% of the govt employees are useless and a waste of tax dollars.

Not sure what that has to do with the 2nd employee I mentioned.

You could just post TLTR if you weren't going to read the whole post.
I read every word, hence my last paragraph downplaying her boohoo and telling her to take her talents to the private sector.
Then your reading comprehension needs improvement.
Perhaps you can tell me where you think I missed.
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I have empathy for federal employees losing their job. I have ZERO sympathy however due to my own personal experiences over my lifetime.

If I was to "gloat" it would ONLY be if the person involved was an active #RESIST!!! idgit.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs.

Accountability for... what? She did a necessary task for 18 years and got laid off on a whim. What exactly did she do to warrant being fired while others keep their jobs? The only criteria for her being let go is that she took a different position to do the work of two people instead. If you and to claim accountability, then maybe start with performance instead of probationary hires.

Who? Name names and link to their post.

I got laid off "on a whim" once. Where were you then? So did a friend of mine last summer. His company sold and he was tight with the former owners. The new ones wanted the "tight" group out.

He couldn't afford Cobra insurance payment of something like $2800 and didn't know how he was going to pay for Stage 4 Colon Cancer treatments when he was diagnosed in October. He passed in December so the financial part ceased to be a big ongoing concern, but where were you in the interim?

Dude, this IS real world. I'm sorry we're just breaking it to you. At will employees lose their jobs every day. Government employees don't have an entitlement to a job.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

91AggieLawyer said:

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Yeah, the private sector gets fired too. That doesn't make it right.

Specifically, what WRONG was done here?

Don't behave like people are PLEASED others are losing their job. But when WE pay their salary, there has to be some accountability. If you justify her not being riffed, then you have to apply that same standard to ALL government employees. Thus, NOTHING effective gets done.

Is that your point?


People ARE pleased others are losing their jobs.

Accountability for... what? She did a necessary task for 18 years and got laid off on a whim. What exactly did she do to warrant being fired while others keep their jobs? The only criteria for her being let go is that she took a different position to do the work of two people instead. If you and to claim accountability, then maybe start with performance instead of probationary hires.
She wasn't needed, it's that simple. As important as you think her job was, maybe it wasn't. Happens every day in the real world.
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Very sorry but STOP MOOCHING OFF THE US CITIZEN TAXPAYER. Go get a REAL JOB. I dont feel sorry at all other than she should have gotten a real job a long time ago. Go cry me a river, i dont give a rats ass. I dont them a thing. Ive been laid off multiple times and yes it sucks. Im sorry for her or any other NON- government employee that gets laid ofd but live in the real world for once.
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I completely disagree. I dont owe her anything. Im tired of paying else these moochers. Ive worked my whole life and ive been taxed out the ass so people like her have a cushy life. Im not sorry she lost her job.
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BadMoonRisin said:

The irony is that these are the same people that:

a.) cheered on the shuttering of small businesses due to a weak ass cold virus
b.) cheered on their workforce being purged of people that wouldnt bow down to the altar of Pfizer and Moderna
c.) not 8 months later were absolutely furious and indignant about the possibility of a government shutdown...when every single one of these worthless lifers know deep down inside that what this means is they will get a taxpayer funded PTO.


D. These are the same people that told Coal Miners to "Learn to Code".
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Old_Ag_91 said:

Very sorry but STOP MOOCHING OFF THE US CITIZEN TAXPAYER ASSSHOOOLE. Go get a REAL JOB. I dont feel sorry at all other than she should have gotten a real job a long time ago. Go cry me a river, i dont give a rats *******. Useless piece of crap. I wanna fight these people who think I OWE THEM SOMETHING. I dont. Suck it up buttercup. Ive been laid off multiple times and yes it sucks. Im. It sorry for her or any other government employee we have to deal with it so do they about time. Live in the real world *****.


Wow, I can see why you've probably been fired many times in your life
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AggieJ2002 said:

Old_Ag_91 said:

Very sorry but STOP MOOCHING OFF THE US CITIZEN TAXPAYER ASSSHOOOLE. Go get a REAL JOB. I dont feel sorry at all other than she should have gotten a real job a long time ago. Go cry me a river, i dont give a rats *******. Useless piece of crap. I wanna fight these people who think I OWE THEM SOMETHING. I dont. Suck it up buttercup. Ive been laid off multiple times and yes it sucks. Im. It sorry for her or any other government employee we have to deal with it so do they about time. Live in the real world *****.


Wow, I can see why you've probably been fired many times in your life

Nope actually been laid off twice due to economy downturn never fired. I support my family and get taxed out the ass because of idiots like this lady. Suck it up buttercup. Its real life.
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