Only differences between '24 and '20: White turnout and major Latino Republican shift

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TheWoodlandsTxAg
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2024 exit poll: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/exit-polls

2020 exit poll: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-elections/exit-polls/

White voters: White vote preference stayed the same (41% Democrat) but White turnout increased by 4 points in terms of electorate makeup (67% in 2020 and 71% in 2024). The increase in White turnout played a big role in Trump/Republican victory.

Black voters: Trump/Republicans essentially made no improvements with Black voters. 12 percent of Black voters voted Trump/Republican in 2020, and 13 percent of Black voters voted for Trump/Republicans in 2024.

Latino voters: 46 percent of all Latino voters nationwide voted Trump/Republican. This is a 14 point shift from the 32 percent of all Latino voters nationwide that voted Trump/Republican in 2020. The shift in Latino votes was huge for Trump/Republicans. Because of this shift Texas voted more Republican than Alaska and Iowa, and only a few points less Republican than Kansas. New York, Illinois, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Colorado voted less Democrat than Texas voted Republican in 2024. Latino voters were the second largest voting group nationwide in 2024 behind only White voters.

Asian voters: Asian voters voted 5 points more Trump/Republican in 2024, but their turnout decreased by 1 point in terms of total electorate makeup to where they only made up 3 percent of the total electorate nationwide.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/election/2024/article/texas-latinos-prefer-trump-biden-matchup-uh-poll-18642473.php

Many polls across the country over the last 4 years, including this UH poll above, have shown Latinos are very angry at Democrats over three issues: inflation/high prices, immigration/border security, and crime.

Also none of these pollsters are asking about the change in Latino voter preference because of the extreme Democrat shift towards far left social policy. This should also be studied in addition to the kitchen table issues.
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The difference is blanket mail in ballots sent to any and everyone.
pfo
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And the Amish in Pennsylvania! Don't forget the Amish
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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pfo said:

And the Amish in Pennsylvania! Don't forget the Amish
Yes. That is because Democrats, who control state government in PA, started to harass Amish farmers.

Also Scott Pressler and Cliff Maloney actually worked hard to get those Amish voters to the polls.
MemphisAg1
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Trump made huge progress with Latinos.

And all the polls with Trump getting 22% of the black vote were pipe dreams, just like most of us thought.
deddog
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Black voters are voting themselves into irrelevance.
Trumps message hasn't resonated, they continue to blindly vote for a party that only cares for them as a vote bank.

The focus has now shifted to Latinos and blacks have only themselves to blame
BenFiasco14
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There's also the mysterious difference of 15 million missing Democrat votes
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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BenFiasco14 said:

There's also the mysterious difference of 15 million missing Democrat votes
Yeah, I was going to mention that White voter turnout didn't increase when there are 15M missing voters.
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HollywoodBQ said:

BenFiasco14 said:

There's also the mysterious difference of 15 million missing Democrat votes
Yeah, I was going to mention that White voter turnout didn't increase when there are 15M missing voters.
When I talk about turnout, I am talking about it in terms of percentage of total electorate makeup for voting groups in comparison to other years instead of raw votes compared to other years.
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MemphisAg1 said:

Trump made huge progress with Latinos.

And all the polls with Trump getting 22% of the black vote were pipe dreams, just like most of us thought.
Trump is meu macho.
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doubledog said:

MemphisAg1 said:

Trump made huge progress with Latinos.

And all the polls with Trump getting 22% of the black vote were pipe dreams, just like most of us thought.
Trump is meu macho.
The mainstream media keeps saying this was a macho vote for Trump however all of the data shows that kitchen table issues caused the major Latino shift towards Republicans.

The polls show Latinos are very angry at Democrats over three issues: inflation/high prices, immigration/border security, and crime.
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deddog said:

Black voters are voting themselves into irrelevance.
Trumps message hasn't resonated, they continue to blindly vote for a party that only cares for them as a vote bank.

The focus has now shifted to Latinos and blacks have only themselves to blame


You are so right. As Latinos increase, blacks demographic percentage should decrease. The days of pandering to blacks for votes has an expiration date. 6% is probably the Mendoza Line. Democrats have already thrown blue collar workers, Jews and Christians away. Blacks are next.
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I think it had more to do with the message (or lack of it for Harris) then the demographics.
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The Democrats are in trouble and I'm loving it. All their psycho bs narratives are crumbling.

Now we need prosecutions.
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Crackdown on mail in ballots and Voter ID…

That's the reason…
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pfo said:

And the Amish in Pennsylvania! Don't forget the Amish


That would be in the white turnout.
LOL OLD
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maroonthrunthru said:

Crackdown on mail in ballots and Voter ID…

That's the reason…
It all starts with voter rolls, however. All of them have to be cleaned up, with prejudice.

ERIC needs to be under DOJ investigation for running a voter roll scam where it creates phantom voters and pads the rolls to a very large degree.
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Amish aren't being harassed. One guy who refuses to follow state and federal laws to assure the safety of his milk, is fighting the government.

They aren't going against guys milking a few cows and using it for their family. They are going against a large commercial producer that has to follow the rules regardless of his religion

I will agree that it is being framed in the alternate media as the state vs a simple Amish guy.
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Been saying it for a while that our only hope going forward are Hispanics and this election proved that.

I think the reason people thought blacks were going to change their ways in this election is because the 12% that had already shifted have simply become more vocal about it.

In the past, they would have been ostracized by their peers and the media but now they no longer feel like they have to hide their vote. And I think that openness led people on the right to believe there was a new red wave amongst blacks when it was simply the ones who already switched talking it up more.
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deddog said:

Black voters are voting themselves into irrelevance.
Trumps message hasn't resonated, they continue to blindly vote for a party that only cares for them as a vote bank.

The focus has now shifted to Latinos and blacks have only themselves to blame

At some point, you have to be able to think for yourself and in this case it's very unlikely that will ever happen en masse
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deddog said:

Black voters are voting themselves into irrelevance.
Trumps message hasn't resonated, they continue to blindly vote for a party that only cares for them as a vote bank.

The focus has now shifted to Latinos and blacks have only themselves to blame


I actually don't think most of these demographics vote as much as these AAR suggest.

I do think when it comes to where votes are placed for people (fraud, mail in ballots) it is done for black and especially black women voters in inner cities.

That's why pollsters before elections and exit polls always estimate huge shifts from black men yet it never shows.
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The main difference was that Democrats actually had roll out of bed, put some clothes on, and go outside to vote this time. That was too much effort for most of those bums.
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

HollywoodBQ said:

BenFiasco14 said:

There's also the mysterious difference of 15 million missing Democrat votes
Yeah, I was going to mention that White voter turnout didn't increase when there are 15M missing voters.
When I talk about turnout, I am talking about it in terms of percentage of total electorate makeup for voting groups in comparison to other years instead of raw votes compared to other years.


So couldn't the difference between 20 and 24 just as easily be reductions in raw numbers for other groups? And so doesn't that mean that raw voter turnout was down across all groups?
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I think the illegal alien voters checked the wrong box. No ingles senor!
“A drunkard’s dream if I ever did see one”
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I've said this before but if the Hispanic vote continues to move toward Republicans, Trump won't need to build a wall. The dems will do it for him.
Not going to fall for the "blacks are voting in big numbers for the blank Republican candidate" again. We hear this every time and they still vote in lockstep with the dems.
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Deceased voters turnout was much lower this election cycle.
HollywoodBQ
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

HollywoodBQ said:

BenFiasco14 said:

There's also the mysterious difference of 15 million missing Democrat votes
Yeah, I was going to mention that White voter turnout didn't increase when there are 15M missing voters.
When I talk about turnout, I am talking about it in terms of percentage of total electorate makeup for voting groups in comparison to other years instead of raw votes compared to other years.

But my point is that White turnout did not increase.
Other groups my have decreased more, thereby making Whites a larger percentage of the voter pool.

Saying that White voter turnout increased implies that there were more White voters this time around than there were last time. And that's not true by millions.

Whites make up a bigger piece of the pie but that pie is significantly smaller in 2024 than it was in 2020.
The AP is now claiming that it's only a 5M vote difference, not the 15M that was reported earlier.
https://apnews.com/article/election-2024-voter-turnout-republicans-trump-harris-7ef18c115c8e1e76210820e0146bc3a5
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ts5641 said:

I've said this before but if the Hispanic vote continues to move toward Republicans, Trump won't need to build a wall. The dems will do it for him.
Not going to fall for the "blacks are voting in big numbers for the blank Republican candidate" again. We hear this every time and they still vote in lockstep with the dems.
I cannot believe they DID IT AGAIN!

How dumb can one block be. They are doing nothing but hurting your community and you morons keep voting the same way, NOTHING has changed in 50 years for you. You are insane

Thank God Hispanics are moving their way over or we would be dead in the water.

The funny thing is black women are almost having babies at the same rate as white women now. So their population is decreasing like Whites. The only reason black population is growing is immigration, American born is shrinking. So their base is shrinking.

You have to have 90% black turnout in Atlanta to win Georgia. That percentage will only go up from now on, as more Hispanics move in

Dems are in trouble in they cannot reverse the tide on Hispanics. I guess they are white after all. White/Hispanics

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Pinochet said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

HollywoodBQ said:

BenFiasco14 said:

There's also the mysterious difference of 15 million missing Democrat votes
Yeah, I was going to mention that White voter turnout didn't increase when there are 15M missing voters.
When I talk about turnout, I am talking about it in terms of percentage of total electorate makeup for voting groups in comparison to other years instead of raw votes compared to other years.


So couldn't the difference between 20 and 24 just as easily be reductions in raw numbers for other groups? And so doesn't that mean that raw voter turnout was down across all groups?
I think this is what HollywoodBQ is saying above.


I need to do some research on it and look at the final raw numbers.
OverSeas AG
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Difference is the 15+ million votes that were manufactured for
biden in 2020.

Dem votes are now back to historic levels in 2024.

People didnt just not vote. Lol.
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