Biden supposedly got 82M votes in 20.
Historically the total votes cast have increased each presidential election year. Pretty linear by the way. 20 was a big anomaly.

So, why did Harris get 12M votes less than Biden?
Why are we back on the predictive line with this election?
What possibly could have been the difference?

Thank you for everyone who poll watched.
Thank you to state officials who implemented election law changes to protect the vote.

Pretty simple. Democrats cheated, just like the Dinesh D'Souza movie said they did. And more.

there was no 12MM fake votes cast last time, if that is what you are implying. anything that large would be outright obvious even to a blind democrat.

trump is about even to what he pulled last time. Which means he ACTUALLY lost some votes from the group that voted for him last time, which have been made up by the huge swing in Latino, jews and blacks (plus some Muslims) that voted Trump this time. those are all lost Kamala votes because she sucks.

Kamala was just a ****ty candidate. The Dem base, in spite of being vocal to all hell, turned out in much smaller number for her than for Biden. Plus the aforementioned blacks, Jews Latinos that switched over to Team Trump.

And yes. the amount of cheating was significantly decreased from last time.

No huge conspiracy here.

There weren't millions of MiB to be harvested from people who don't vote.

C@LAg said:

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there was no 12MM fake votes cast last time, if that is what you are implying. anything that large would be outright obvious even to a blind democrat.

trump is about even to what he pulled last time. Which means he ACTUALLY lost some votes from the group that voted for him last time, which have been made up by the huge swing in Latino, jews and blacks (plus some Muslims) that voted Trump this time. those are all lost Kamala votes because she sucks.

Kamala was just a ****ty candidate. The Dem base, in spite of being vocal to all hell, turned out in much smaller number for her than for Biden. Plus the aforementioned blacks, Jews Latinos that switched over to Team Trump.

And yes. the amount of cheating was significantly decreased from last time.

No huge conspiracy here.

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Have you looked at dem total vote totals historically?

2020 was a huge outlier. If it smells like a fish…

2020 wasn't called the Big Steal for nothing. Those "missing" votes were the result of some number of printers going "BRRRRRR", nothing more.

Given this, why do so many of what the F16 calls "CMs" persist in defending keeping ballot harvesting? Would like to see that illegal in all 50. It just seems to open more opportunities for fraud than it prevents.

Lara Trump shut those cheating pos down


MAGA

Trump ends up with what he got in 2020.

Obviously, 11 million Mail Drop box votes didn't get harvested for Kamala.

Too May eyes watching this time.

I'm a data guy and 2020 sticks out like a sore thumb.
2024 is more consistent with the historical trend.

Do you really think that many democrats didn't vote?

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dermdoc said:

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Have you looked at dem total vote totals historically?

2020 was a huge outlier. If it smells like a fish…

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outliers happen. and the 2020 vote was a HUGE outlier because of COVID impacts and the amount of hate Trump had. largest event outlier since WW2.

2020 had lots of people sitting at home, scared about money, and trump made an easy target for Dems and moderates to focus on.


Yes. there was cheating, especially in pretty obvious metro areas. Absolutely, and in some shocking numbers in some areas. Most of us agree to that.

But 12-20MM worth? No.

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Just curious, how do you know that? Dem voting numbers are consistent over the years.

And all of a sudden in 2020 there is a huge outlier. For Joe Biden?

And how much cheating was necessary for Biden to win? It was very close in several battleground states. Pretty slippery slope once you admit there was cheating and sometimes in large numbers.

The question to me is not the exact number but was it large enough to flip the election to Biden.

I just have a really hard time believing Joe Biden got the highest number of total votes in US history.

C@LAg said:

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there was no 12MM fake votes cast last time, if that is what you are implying. anything that large would be outright obvious even to a blind democrat.

trump is about even to what he pulled last time. Which means he ACTUALLY lost some votes from the group that voted for him last time, which have been made up by the huge swing in Latino, jews and blacks (plus some Muslims) that voted Trump this time. those are all lost Kamala votes because she sucks.

Kamala was just a ****ty candidate. The Dem base, in spite of being vocal to all hell, turned out in much smaller number for her than for Biden. Plus the aforementioned blacks, Jews Latinos that switched over to Team Trump.

And yes. the amount of cheating was significantly decreased from last time.

No huge conspiracy here.

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Someone is willfully (?) ignoring the "fact" voting was mysteriously halted in the wee hours with DJT in the lead and restarted with a "magical" (lol) up tic in JB's totals. 81 MM for a candidate who couldn't get 500 persons to show up for a rally and NEVER had an original thought of his own. As a poster stated above..."if it smells like a fish".

C@LAg said:

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dermdoc said:

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Have you looked at dem total vote totals historically?

2020 was a huge outlier. If it smells like a fish…

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outliers happen. and the 2020 vote was a HUGE outlier because of COVID impacts and the amount of hate Trump had. largest event outlier since WW2.

2020 had lots of people sitting at home, scared about money, and trump made an easy target for Dems and moderates to focus on.


Yes. there was cheating, especially in pretty obvious metro areas. Absolutely, and in some shocking numbers in some areas. Most of us agree to that.

But 12-20MM worth? No.

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20M people just didn't decide to not vote this time around, doesn't pass logic test.

There was massive mail vote fraud, and no way to prove or disprove because there was zero chain of custody. Too damn easy to cheat.

It actually worked out better for the repubs.and Trump. He now has the Senate and probably the House. As well as the SC.

And I think the dems will be very careful after the convincing election to start impeachment stuff. The American people have spoken. Loud and clear.

God is good.