How is Trump polling in the RGV?

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Burdizzo
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I have not voted yet, but my wife has. She talked about how even the folks in line who showed outward signs of being Kamala voters said they were voting Trump. This is in Bexar County.

I still don't expect Bexar to go to Trump. Too many hardcore progressive/ collectivists have dug in to overcome that. But I could see him winning a big part of the RGV which would look pretty interesting.

Anyone know what polling looks like in the Valley?
rocky the dog
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I have not voted yet, but my wife has. She talked about how even the folks in line who showed outward signs of being Kamala voters said they were voting Trump. This is in Bexar County.
Can't help you on the RGV, but here's a tidbit on San Antonio. Last month I had a good talk with my SAFFE officer (San Antonio police unit) who told me SAPD is 98% for Trump. How this carries over to other police forces, I don't know but it's a good indicator. SAPD is majority Hispanic. I don't see the support anywhere for Harris like I did four years ago for Biden/Harris in yard signs, bumper stickers, and conversations with others.
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Funky Winkerbean
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Hopefully these awakenings are going to flip a few down ballot races.
Jason C.
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I think only the middle-aged and older obese, pear-shaped, LULAC/La Raza women and their prediabetic, low T husbands will go for Harris.
Burdizzo
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Hopefully these awakenings are going to flip a few down ballot races.



I have made several previous posts about this local issue. The long and the short is "there ain't none". In my voting precinct there are a large number of local races where Democrats run unopposed. Our local GOP missed an opportunity here.
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Jason C. said:

I think only the middle-aged and older obese, pear-shaped, LULAC/La Raza women and their prediabetic, low T husbands will go for Harris.
Very succinct and extremely accurate!

I'm from Gonzales, so I've dealt with these types.
oldord
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Trump is taking Cameron County. Hidalgo county is a tossup. Willacy is Trump all the way up to corpus. Corpus will go harris.


Who would've thought it. Cameron County hasn't gone Republican since the 60s. And that When it was still majority Anglo.. I don't think it will ever go back Dem once it crosses over.

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...showed outward signs of being Kamala voters...
American Hardwood
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oldord said:

Trump is taking Cameron County. Hidalgo county is a tossup. Willacy is Trump all the way up to corpus. Corpus will go harris.


Who would've thought it. Cameron County hasn't gone Republican since the 60s. And that When it was still majority Anglo.. I don't think it will ever go back Dem once it crosses over.


This is wrong. CC and Nueces County have been red for a while now.
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oldord said:

Trump is taking Cameron County. Hidalgo county is a tossup. Willacy is Trump all the way up to corpus. Corpus will go harris.


Who would've thought it. Cameron County hasn't gone Republican since the 60s. And that When it was still majority Anglo.. I don't think it will ever go back Dem once it crosses over.


Nueces went for Trump in 2020, maybe not CC proper but the county went for Trump. Would be shocked if it flipped.
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There is a significant difference between Hispanics voting for Trump and Hispanics voting R down ballot. Certainly the slow shift is towards the GOP over the last few elections but many of the down ballot folks have been there a long time and they fit closer culturally with the areas they represent. Voting for Trump doesn't mean voting Republican straight ticket.

One factor beyond policy is Trump has many attributes that are attractive to the Hispanic culture and Kamala has the reverse. Trump is very masculine alpha male. He comes across as a strong leader and speaks about family and cultural issues that matter to Hispanics. While he isn't blue collar he certainly relates very well to blue collar folks and he relates well to the small businessman and Hispanics tend to be very entrepreneurial and family oriented. The gender stuff connects with them as an attack on the family.

Kamala is the polar opposite of Trump on all of those fronts. Female who comes across as elitist no matter how much she says she grew up "middle class". Projects weakness and fluff when she speaks with the word salads. Doesn't help that she is a black woman either, that doesn't play well with Hispanics generally and it is getting exacerbated by the Democrats going all in with BLM and Reparations while thinking all Hispanics care about is open borders. No, Hispanics want their cousin's family to be able to immigrate but they don't want open borders and there is a big difference.
The Fall Guy
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Was down there this last weekend and only saw a few Trump or Kamala signs. Most signs were Mayra Flores a s local races.
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I don't know any lawyers who will run for a judicial bench nor DA because they are confident a Republican will not win.

I'm a lawyer (retired DA) who moved to SA when I retired so my wife and I could help care for my in-laws.
Six years ago the Bexar County Republican Party made a run at me, through several people, asking me to run for DA. They were dipping into the bottom of the barrel because I never practiced law in SA. So no name recognition in Bexar County. But no local lawyer would agree to run. One local former assistant DA, who has all the money he needs, finally agreed but got beat soundly by Joe Gonzales.

I don't think a Republican will ever win a county wide race in Bexar County again. One big reason my wife and I will move away when last in-law dies.

RGV will vote R before Bexar County does.
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Hungry Ojos
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Same with Travis, not worth the time and expense. Just look at the current district court judges in Bexar, Travis and especially Harris. They are complete idiots who have no business anywhere near the bench. DEI personified…
e=mc2
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SA may become the largest red city in the country. It will be close. Hispanic men aren't down with the freak show the left has created.
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e=mc2 said:

SA may become the largest red city in the country. It will be close.


And Hillary might win a Sidney Sweeney look-a-like contest!

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Burdizzo
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Hungry Ojos said:

Same with Travis, not worth the time and expense. Just look at the current district court judges in Bexar, Travis and especially Harris. They are complete idiots who have no business anywhere near the bench. DEI personified…



And the chicken-egg argument is that one of the reasons these people get in is because they continue to run unopposed. It is easy for Democrats to win when no one stands up to them.
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And the chicken-egg argument
this makes zero sense.

we know which came first in the bexar county, travis county, etc. elections.

democrats are winning easily. that is what came first.

what came next was republicans didn't want to waste their time or money.


I'm curious as to what you think would happen if republicans ran in all of these elections. Is it your prediction that bexar county is going to be close?
Burdizzo
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BMX Bandit said:

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And the chicken-egg argument
this makes zero sense.

we know which came first in the bexar county, travis county, etc. elections.

democrats are winning easily. that is what came first.

what came next was republicans didn't want to waste their time or money.


I'm curious as to what you think would happen if republicans ran in all of these elections.
Is it your prediction that bexar county is going to be close?



Maybe 1 of 14 might win, which is better than 0 of 14. But we will never know because we refuse to try

Imagine if the Aggies refused to play t.u. because they have wone 2/3 of the previous contests.
BMX Bandit
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Maybe 1 of 14 might win
what is your basis for saying that?

do you ever look at election results? not trying to be a smartass, I'm serious.

I'm curious as to why you believe that in a county where no republican was within 10 points in 2020, but somehow one person would win in 2024. What is the precedence for that?
Quo Vadis?
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I know this is about the RGV, but I did see some Bexar county polling that had Trump outperforming 2020 by about 5%
Burdizzo
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No real actual data on 2024 but I looked back on the 2016 and 2020 election results a while back and the gap closed by Trump from Hilldawg to Biden was significant. If the same percentage gap improvement happens again then he will win all 4 counties. However, as previously stated, most likely he will carry Cameron County and likely Starr & Willacy but not Hidalgo. Down ballot, the Vicente Gonzalez race should be close in District 34, Henry Cuellar likely holds his seat a a moderate D, and District 15 is already held by a R - Monica de la Cruz. Really need to unseat Vicente.
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He is not going to answer your questions.

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dreyOO
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As a former resident of Cameron county, I'll be toasting my family back home who (mostly) vote red.

I know this board had skeptics that this would ever swing, but it appears to finally be happening. Talk about a shakeup to the blue base if this is just a sign of things to come. In addition to Trump hopefully locking down the border and tossing out the illegals.
Jack Boyett
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I work in a plant that's probably 80% Hispanic. Young guys mostly. There are no Kamala supporters. The demographic inevitability that Dems talk about is not going to work out like they think.
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Burdizzo said:

I have not voted yet, but my wife has. She talked about how even the folks in line who showed outward signs of being Kamala voters said they were voting Trump. This is in Bexar County.

I still don't expect Bexar to go to Trump. Too many hardcore progressive/ collectivists have dug in to overcome that. But I could see him winning a big part of the RGV which would look pretty interesting.

Anyone know what polling looks like in the Valley?


I dunno about the valley, but Williamson county early voting line looked hard left to me
rocky the dog
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Kamala is the polar opposite of Trump on all of those fronts. Female who comes across as elitist no matter how much she says she grew up "middle class". Projects weakness and fluff when she speaks with the word salads. Doesn't help that she is a black woman either, that doesn't play well with Hispanics generally and it is getting exacerbated by the Democrats going all in with BLM and Reparations while thinking all Hispanics care about is open borders. No, Hispanics want their cousin's family to be able to immigrate but they don't want open borders and there is a big difference.
She is NOT black.

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BMX Bandit
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cameron county has been quite an amazing move right.

from the 2016 Hillary to 2022 Beto race, the democrat went from 64% to 54%. just about every other big county is moving left.
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SouthTex99 said:

RGV voter here. I'm seeing increasing share who want R's in DC (Pres, Senate, Reps). That doesn't mean R's get their vote down ballot. Local Dems are not as liberal as the ones that go to DC. Those are tossups. More about who can we trust to not embarrass us or get caught up in corruption.
This has been my observation as well. The RGV has been blue because of the local scene, not national issues. This is the mistake the DC left mad when they tried to pander to border Hispanics (Mexican) lumping them together with illegals from all over South and Central America because all they see is brown people stemming from their own prejudices.

I think since the left has plotted such a dramatic course into lunacy, it has started to pervade even the local political culture of the RGV. Once the power and business advantage of being blue tips towards red, I predict you will see an acceleration to the GOP for RGV Hispanics.

The fact is South Texas is a unique blend of Mexican and European heritages that go back a long way. Whites and Hispanics are well blended, have a shared cultural history and tend to get along pretty well. Democrat divisive strategies along racial lines isn't going to fly to well in the region in a general sense and their campaign to do so fell quite flat.

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Willco has gone from being THE most conservative county in Texas to being completely lost in a relatively short period of time.

Thanks tech industry and thanks to Gavin Newsome.
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Quo Vadis? said:

I know this is about the RGV, but I did see some Bexar county polling that had Trump outperforming 2020 by about 5%


The Bexar County sheriff made an idiotic speech at the DNC and has an inmate in his jail die almost every week. But I think he will win in a cake walk.

And the LEOs who work for him hate him.

Adding one more tidbit. Local SA tv station (KSAT) reported earlier this week that since 2016 election, Bexar County has added 250,000 registered voters. That is a lot of new voters. I know there are lots of out of state license plates around SA now but not enough to add 250,000 REGISTERED voters. So who are all these people?

Does not bode well for Republicans in Bexar County.
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