torrid said:

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Oh please, they only summer at Martha's Vineyard.

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Can't tell if sarcasm?

The biggest fraud is probably covid. But that may be one in the same

DrEvazanPhD said:

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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torrid said:

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Oh please, they only summer at Martha's Vineyard.

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Can't tell if sarcasm?

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They do have a rather pleasant ocean-front home in Hawaii too

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Isn't there one in Fla too. Right on the coast. So much for Obama buying into climate change. He just wants all of us too.

Ask Tafari Campbell…… oh wait…..never mind

They knew how to exploit the useful idiot, guilt-laden white liberal.

Obama was raised up with radicals. He knows the Alinsky playbook, its his bible. His wife is an avowed racist.

His election brought on the Dem party's lurch to the far left and gave impetus to the corrosive, destructive progressive movement and brought it mainstream. Its laughable to me to watch the Dems (and even some R's) blast Trump and his supporters as far right extremists while ignoring their own party's much larger lurch to the left and them appeasing that segment. Biden as example in his history was to me mostly a middling lean left Democrat but his policies as POTUS and everything he proposes indicates far left thinking of today's party.

Scotty Appleton said:

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They knew how to exploit the useful idiot, guilt-laden white liberal.

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+1000

4stringAg said:

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Obama was raised up with radicals. He knows the Alinsky playbook, its his bible. His wife is an avowed racist.

His election brought on the Dem party's lurch to the far left and gave impetus to the corrosive, destructive progressive movement and brought it mainstream.

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Yet, they don't associate with many white folks.
If they weren't who they are and had all their riches and white friends, why radicals would stir up and call them uncle toms and wanna be whites people. They get a pass because of politics. They don't get the Herman Cain treatment.

I know this is unpopular but I still think Jimmy Carter takes the cake for biggest fraud in our history as an executive. He added to this by masquerading as some devout Christian which pisses me off more. Obama barely tried to hide his narcissism, at least.

Both are/were hateful men who should have never been in the Oval Office. Carter was so damn bad he couldn't even come close to a second term (Obama probably wouldn't have either but for the GOP's decision to basically forfeit in 2012), and they gave rise to two of our greatest presidents, respectively, in their reign of horrible, vile, terrible times in office.

Stonegateag85 said:

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He'll go down as one of the greatest political operatives of our time: 3 term president with a potential for four, pushed out a potato, orchestrated the weaponization of government against an opponent. Never seen anything like it.

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And nevertheless, the Obamas are immensely popular in general. It's a huge reason I have no confidence in anything reversing course or getting fixed at all. The people are just too hopelessly stupid and will cheer on their own destruction.

Chairman O is no fraud. He is overseeing exactly what he told us he would seek, fundamental change of America.

He didn't tell us all of the details but you can see with your own eyes and hear with your own ears.

nortex97 said:

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I know this is unpopular but I still think Jimmy Carter takes the cake for biggest fraud in our history as an executive. He added to this by masquerading as some devout Christian which pisses me off more. Obama barely tried to hide his narcissism, at least.

Both are/were hateful men who should have never been in the Oval Office. Carter was so damn bad he couldn't even come close to a second term (Obama probably wouldn't have either but for the GOP's decision to basically forfeit in 2012), and they gave rise to two of our greatest presidents, respectively, in their reign of horrible, vile, terrible times in office.

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So Jimmy is a fake Christian, but you think DJT is a man of faith? Ok, sure. Interesting way you define the faith.

Also, you don't like Jimmy because he was "hateful" man but you love Trump?

Jimmy Carter was a bad President because he was bad at the job. Smart guy but not a leader. Kind man but way too naive. Rs lose elections because we default to this weird "my guy is more Christian than your guy talk" when it is pretty obviously not so. We cannot really see into a man's soul and we look like Karens and losers trying. Just kick the oppositions ass on policy. Dems default to thinking the Govt can/must fix everything. While we are turning into Trump's whining, boycotting, protesting army, the Dems are trying to wrestle the concept of freedom from us. That is absurd but will work because we look like a bunch of old ladies.

No, both to your summation of my views and everything else you typed out, as usual.

I think you are giving Barry and Big Mike too much credit. They were merely puppets. Barry in more ways than one.

Tell me how a community organizer can be a fraud?

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

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Why do they live in Martha's Vineyard?

Why do they live in Martha's Vineyard after dividing the country over lies?

Why don't they live in Chicago anymore?

The real reason people are afraid of going to school is because of the violent criminals Democrat judges and Democrat prosecutors have released on the streets to harm the hardworking law abiding students and teachers.

A young man in Chicago was murdered coming back from culinary school for his cell phone. You can watch the whole video. Shot dead in cold blood for a cell phone. You can hear him scream and struggle during the last seconds of his life.

Obama did more damage to the country than any president in US history.

Crime data from the government shows how much of a lie the whole Obama presidency was, and how false his divisive lies were.

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Living in Martha's Vineyard vs Chicago doesn't seem like the strongest argument for the point you're trying to make. I'm going to guess a majority of people would choose a house in MV over Chicago regardless of crime statistics,let alone an anecdotal story.

Are you also surprised they choose to live in Hawaii rather than Chicago?

Stonegateag85 said:

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He'll go down as one of the greatest political operatives of our time: 3 term president with a potential for four, pushed out a potato, orchestrated the weaponization of government against an opponent. Never seen anything like it.

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In the United States...

Fraudulent is an inaccurate description. Obama is a very gifted political speaker. Being articulate isn't luck or fraud. That's really what politics has always boiled down to. Almost all politicians on every side are frauds when it comes to their beliefs... so water is wet? I'd argue the exceptions are further and wider apart than most people think.

Artorias said:

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Unfortunately, Obama was successful in doing what he promised, fundamentally transforming America from a prosperous, generally united nation where racism was more or less an afterthought, into the most divided nation we have seen in 60 years.

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Anyone got copy of Michelle's speech last night? I heard she blasted Trump on "black jobs"?

torrid said:

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Oh please, they only summer at Martha's Vineyard.

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And winter in Hawaii

Owlagdad said:

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Artorias said:

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Unfortunately, Obama was successful in doing what he promised, fundamentally transforming America from a prosperous, generally united nation where racism was more or less an afterthought, into the most divided nation we have seen in 60 years.

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Anyone got copy of Michelle's speech last night? I heard she blasted Trump on "black jobs"?

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She had a good zinger about POTUS maybe being one of those "black jobs".

Still has a Chicago house:

https://maps.app.goo.gl/kVg6CWqdBpqS1Eo9A

History will eventually see him in the same light as revolution instigators like Stalin, Mao, etc

He and the people behind him changed the direction of this country significantly, and for the worse