Your history teachers/professors lied to you. Articles of Confederation were great.

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TheWoodlandsTxAg
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The Articles of Confederation and Perpetual Union were excellent. The founding fathers should have let it be.

Amendments could be added only with the approval of all states.

A 70 percent supermajority of states was required to even pass a law.

Each state gets one vote regardless of size.

No executive so no possibility of Marxist authoritarian fascists like Wilson, FDR, LBJ, Obama, Biden, and Kamala.

No national judiciary so no possibility of the far left living document activist court of the 20th century that helped to destroy the country.

Congress was unable to impose taxes. It could only borrow money on credit.

The Republican SEC Sunbelt states face problems that the Democrat states of New England simply don't face.

It is sad that New England Democrats get to force their garbage on SEC Sunbelt Republicans when they live in the most sheltered place in the country.

Kamala is openly planning to completely destroy what is left of federalism by abolishing the filibuster to get her Marxist communist agenda through congress, and she is planning on packing the Supreme Court as well. Biden even talked about it in his speech after dropping out of the race. Kamala has openly called for abolishing the filibuster to pass extreme legislation, and she has talked about packing the Supreme Court. Both Manchin and Sinema are retiring. The only two Democrats against abolishing the filibuster will soon be out of office.

All of our problems today can be traced back to the founding fathers scraping The Articles of Confederation.

Ag with kids
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The states under the Articles of Confederation...

JG88
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The original constitution did not have the 17th amendment (statewide popular vote for senators), this was a big mistake in hindsight.
C@LAg
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you force a balanced budget amendment through and you get a lot of controls put on congress and the presidency when they cannot spend money they do not have.

they then have to actually MANAGE government instead of growing it.

sadly never happen. too many republican voters are ok with the status quo./
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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JG88 said:

The original constitution did not have the 17th amendment (statewide popular vote for senators), this was a big mistake in hindsight.
John Cornyn is obsessed with Ukraine. He just talks about foreign policy. Cornyn also randomly votes with the Dems in the Senate sometimes so the mainstream media will say nice things about him. Cornyn is obsessed with the Liberal Mainstream Pravda media saying nice things about him. Cornyn has no guiding principles.

Ted Cruz talks about Soros DAs and judges destroying Texas metro areas in his Senate hearings. Cruz has talked the most about the illegal immigration border crisis hurting our state and country. More than any other senator. Those type of domestic issues are his main focus. Cruz speaks to his constituents three times a week through his podcast. Cruz is a true constitutional conservative.

The 17th has made most of the Senate like Cornyn.





Bighunter43
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You do know every state had its own currency?? You reckon the Texas dollar would be worth the same as the California dollar? Imagine exchanging your money every time you traveled through a new state! The original Constitution written the way the founding fathers intended was awesome…..what we adhere to now sucks!
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TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

JG88 said:

The original constitution did not have the 17th amendment (statewide popular vote for senators), this was a big mistake in hindsight.

The 17th has made most of the Senate like Cornyn.

The problem is, all of our recent Texas Legislatures were more likely to elect a Cornyn rather than a Cruz.

We have finally started cleaning out some of them in the last primary, but there is still work to be done.
Ozzy Osbourne
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But but but… how will the government get anything done????
AggieDub14
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Can you imagine each state having their own military and currency?

The south would have been a hell hole with nearly zero manufacturing in the 19th century.
Kansas Kid
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AggieDub14 said:

Can you imagine each state having their own military and currency?

The south would have been a hell hole with nearly zero manufacturing in the 19th century.
We would have ended up like Europe. No thanks.
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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DD88 said:

TheWoodlandsTxAg said:

JG88 said:

The original constitution did not have the 17th amendment (statewide popular vote for senators), this was a big mistake in hindsight.

The 17th has made most of the Senate like Cornyn.

The problem is, all of our recent Texas Legislatures were more likely to elect a Cornyn rather than a Cruz.

We have finally started cleaning out some of them in the last primary, but there is still work to be done.
Yup.

15 country club establishment Republican state representatives have already lost their seats, and 9 additional country club Republicans retired over school choice and impeachment.

24 country club establishment Republicans have been replaced by grassroots constitutional conservative Republicans.
TexasAggiesWin
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I ask, with all due respect, why have a country if each State functions as it's own country? (That is why the original Articles of Confederation failed)
Maroon Dawn
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The best part would be dumb leftists who don't understand history REEEEEEEEEEEEEing that we are trying re-establish the Confederacy
Kansas Kid
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TexasAggiesWin said:

I ask, with all due respect, why have a country if each State functions as it's own country? (That is why the original Articles of Confederation failed)
Given most of us have a lot of respect for our country's founding fathers, it says a lot about how bad the Articles of Confederacy were that they felt the need to replace them after only 6 years. (It took 2 more years to draft and ratify the Constitution).
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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AggieDub14 said:

Can you imagine each state having their own military and currency?

The south would have been a hell hole with nearly zero manufacturing in the 19th century.
SEC southern states are about to become a hell hole in modern day because of Democrat Marxist authoritarian fascist policies coming from the federal government after the filibuster is abolished, and Supreme Court is packed.

Democrats at the federal level are trying to turn the SEC southern states into South Africa.

Go take a look at what is happening there. Do some research on what is happening in South Africa right now. Modern day South Africa is the dream of what the Democrats want to turn the central and eastern Sun Belt into over the next couple of decades.
BusterAg
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We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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Kansas Kid said:

AggieDub14 said:

Can you imagine each state having their own military and currency?

The south would have been a hell hole with nearly zero manufacturing in the 19th century.
We would have ended up like Europe. No thanks.
The Democrats at the federal level are about to turn the central and eastern Sun Belt (SEC southern states) into modern day South Africa over the next couple of decades.

Go do some research on what is happening in South Africa right now.

The Articles of Confederation would have prevented modern day Marxist authoritarian fascist Democrats at the federal level from turning this part of the country into South Africa over the next decades.
Kansas Kid
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BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.

It is simpler than that IMO. Go back to reading the 10th amendment as originally intended. Unfortunately, both parties love a strong Federal government because they want to force everyone in the country to live by their vision of what is best for the USA.
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BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.


And 16th.
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BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.



Gee. I wonder why you want to repeal that one?
BonfireNerd04
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Bighunter43 said:

You do know every state had its own currency?? You reckon the Texas dollar would be worth the same as the California dollar? Imagine exchanging your money every time you traveled through a new state!


Indeed. Though, there was one foreign coin that was well-circulared and consistent in value throughout the Americas: The Spanish dollar, or "piece of eight" (for its denomination of 8 reales). When the US Federal government decided to replace state currencies with a unified national currency, it decided to base it on the Spanish dollar instead of the British pound.
TheWoodlandsTxAg
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C@LAg said:

you force a balanced budget amendment through and you get a lot of controls put on congress and the presidency when they cannot spend money they do not have.

they then have to actually MANAGE government instead of growing it.

sadly never happen. too many republican voters are ok with the status quo./
You have to understand that we just have four constitutional conservatives in the senate: Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Josh Hawley, and Cynthia Lummis.

That is it.

Mitch, Cornyn, and Thune hate constitutional conservatives so it is almost impossible to complete a successful primary.

It is much easier to primary at the state level where 15 country club establishment Republicans lost their House seats in Texas in a primary and another 9 retired being replaced by a total of 24 grassroots constitutional conservatives in the Texas House.
BusterAg
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K2-HMFIC said:

BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.



Gee. I wonder why you want to repeal that one?
I prefer voters that vote with brains rather than emotions.
BonfireNerd04
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BusterAg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.



Gee. I wonder why you want to repeal that one?
I prefer voters that vote with brains rather than emotions.


If you want to reduce the number of Democrat voters, the 15th is the best amendment to repeal.
BusterAg
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BonfireNerd04 said:

BusterAg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.
Gee. I wonder why you want to repeal that one?
I prefer voters that vote with brains rather than emotions.
If you want to reduce the number of Democrat voters, the 15th is the best amendment to repeal.
That's not what I said.





Spoiler alert, we already have that, BTW. It's called facebook.
Ag with kids
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K2-HMFIC said:

BusterAg said:

We don't need the articles of confederacy.

All we need to do is Amend the commerce clause to make it illegal for the federal government to give conditional federal funding and to regulate basically all commerce in the US.

You reel back the commerce clause to the 1850s and the constitution works just fine.

Oh, also repeal the 17th and 19th.



Gee. I wonder why you want to repeal that one?
Dude.

Women are SUFFRAGING!!!

Are you such an animal that you'd continue to let them suffrage? The pain they go through and all that.
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