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Neurologists frequently make diagnoses by observation. In fact, most movement disorder diagnoses are made by direct observation or description by patients and families. Mr. Biden has Parkinsonism, an umbrella term that refers to neurologic conditions that cause slowed movements, rigidity, and tremors. By observation, he has a masked face, reduced blinking, stiff and slow gait, hunched posture, low volume voice, imbalance, freezing, mild cognitive disturbance, and difficulty turning. I have seen one video of tremor. All these diagnose Parkinsonism. He would need further investigation by experts to determine which specific disease within the broad term he has, such as idiopathic Parkinson's disease or another specific disease.

While there is no cure for the many conditions comprising Parkinsonism, there are effective treatments for many of the symptoms. By failing to get a diagnosis, the president is denying himself such treatments, and so worsens his own situation.

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Soon after reading this, I had lunch with a neuropathologist friend. I mentioned this report, and, without hesitation, he refined the diagnosis. "There's no doubt he has Lewy Body Dementia." No doubt. From someone who hasn't come within a thousand miles of the Occupant.

The only absolute test for PD and its variants comes with a post-mortem examination of the sufferer's brain. I know that inquiring minds might think that's a good idea for us to do yesterday, but it will have to wait until after Joe assumes room temperature on his own.

Before a post-mortem, the only way to diagnose every PD variant comes from observation. There are no diagnostic tests. CT and MRI don't help.

The problem is that a small area of the brain called the "substantia nigra" (black substance) stops making dopamine that it normally sends to various parts of the brain to help them function. Since this is inside the blood-brain barrier, blood tests don't help. And since the shape and size of the substantia nigra doesn't change with the disease, imaging doesn't help, either.

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PD is a waxing and waning disease. Today can be awful, and tomorrow better. Treatment can make the awful somewhat better but doesn't change the disease. It just changes how it looks. And it doesn't change the fact that there is, at present, no treatment that will reverse the disease. Joe's over the hill and gaining speed.

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LBD has some recall problems, such as when Joe claimed to have spoken with long-dead French President Mitterand. And while we can't distinguish between Biden's fabulist tendencies and bad memory, it's clear from Robert Hur's report that Joe can't remember some important things.

Unfortunately, this train doesn't stop here. PD variants demonstrate an inability to return to a train of thought when distracted. This was front and center when Joe stumbled at the debate and then finished with an incoherent rambling word salad. It even shows up when he's reading a teleprompter.

Worst of all, PD sufferers have extreme difficulty reasoning from A to B. And don't push them toward C. I've watched this decline with a good friend, and now he must have full-time care where he's not allowed to make decisions. This is Joe's near future.

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Sounds persuasive to me. But I have no experiences from which to draw.

Thoughts from those that have some experience with this?

I think he's been diagnosed and is being treated for whatever it is. Jill and his other handlers just won't be forthcoming or honest about his situation, and the members of Congress won't break rank to keep us informed.

It's amazing that people have deemed TDS more debilitating than dementia.

My wife is a RN of several years and she called it 6 weeks ago. We were watching some video of Biden and she said he's got Lewy Body Dimentia.
She said he was showing all the symptoms. I had never heard of it before.

The Dems lower the bar by the minute. They absolutely don't care who is on top as long as The Party is in control.

My late mother was diagnosed with Lewy Bodies a few years before she passed away 2,years ago. You know it when you see it. Biden shows all the signs.

This is what my father has currently. He's going on year 5-6 and started falling - 6 times over december.

Whe he first had it words would come out weird. He'd point to a chair and say telephone.

Long term memory was fine but had zero ability to take directions after a couple of years.

He's in memory care now and bound to a wheel chair.

Here's an interesting video

I just had a cousin die from Lewy's Body Dementia. If Biden has Lewy's it will be very obvious very quickly. Parkinson's is a fairly slow predictable decline. But Lewy's is like falling off a cliff. My cousin was dead within 8 months of diagnosis. His hands and feet shrunk outrageously, he stayed in the fetal position and all he could do was mumble. He looked frightening and it's a frightening and completely debilitating disease. I was also told Lewy's and Parkinson's disease can be brought on by heavy use of cocaine which destroys parts of the brain over long periods of time. If Biden has Lewy's, he won't be upright and able to speak by the time the next president is sworn in.

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My wife is a RN of several years and she called it 6 weeks ago. We were watching some video of Biden and she said he's got Lewy Body Dimentia.
She said he was showing all the symptoms. I had never heard of it before.

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Robin Williams had it . . .

My mom has frontal lobe dementia. I knew Joe had something in 2020. Too many word salad's like my mom. What I don't understand is that it's well known any drastic changes in life speed up the decline. Joe has definitely declined but my mom had three apartment moves within 6 months and two months into the last one I had to put her in a MCU.

My mother died of Covid but had dementia and my grandad died of a type of Dementia but don't remember which.

But from those experiences whatever Biden has it is early stages. My mother, right before she was diagnosed, gave a speech in front of about 800 people on TCUs campus and more or less pulled it off. But there were signs, even in that speech, that those closest to her caught. But it took two more years before she couldn't drive anymore and died a year later of Covid. At that point she was starting to advance into forgetting who people were and all that.

Point is even with dementia she was able to pull off a 20 minute speech in front of hundreds of people, just like Biden can do. But the after party was a borderline disaster trying to get her focused on conversations. She went on to do some smaller events(this is all charity work stuff) well after her diagnosis, almost all the way to the point where she couldn't drive. But she could still speak with note cards pretty well, especially since most of her audience at that point recognized she had her struggles and other people were helping write the speeches. It was actually quite impressive.

That's where Biden is now. Somewhere relatively early in what could be a VERY long, slow decline. There is no possible way he has been making any real decisions for at least a year or so now and never will again.

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My wife is a RN of several years and she called it 6 weeks ago. We were watching some video of Biden and she said he's got Lewy Body Dimentia.
She said he was showing all the symptoms. I had never heard of it before.

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Nurses have time and time again shown to have diagnostic skills as good, if not better, then your average GP. I'm sure your wife's onto something.

And as others have said, I'm sure Biden is being treated and we'll never hear about it until long after he's left this earth.

He definitely has some form of dementia in the parkinson's family. I think they're lying about a clean bill of health and believe he does in fact have a diagnosis and is taking medication for whatever it is. He's just declining rapidly regardless.

There's only one way to know for sure...

This is a good overview of what's going on (Parkinson's side) and how they treat with medications.



Based upon this I think Biden is stage 3:

My Mom had it - she passed away at the end of April.
Anyone even vaguely familiar with it can spot it in Biden.

And those of us with family members who suffered from it and passed away because of it are even more disgusted with "Doctor"Jill for the heartless elder and dementia abuse that she is orchestrating.

Thanks and sympathies to all who have responded with their experiences.

Alex Berensen for the kill shot on PD:

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Dr. Kevin R. Cannard, a Parkinson's disease specialist, has visited the White House at least nine times in the last year, official White House visitor logs show.

The logs show Dr. Cannard traveled to the White House residence medical clinic each time. He met either with the president's personal physician or the naval nurse who coordinates care for the president and other top officials, the logs show.

Dr. Cannard's spate of visits began on July 28, 2023 and continued at least through March 28, 2024. The most recently released logs end on April 1, so it is not clear if Dr. Cannard has been to the White House more recently.

The logs do not note the purpose of Dr. Cannard's visits.

A physician profile page for him notes he is a "neurologist and movement disorders specialist at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center" who researches treatments for "early phase Parkinson's disease." Walter Reed provides medical care to senior federal officials.

Source Alex's Substack

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Assuming this doctor has been in consultation with Biden's doctors for nearly a year now, did Obama and the Clintons know about it that entire time?

Because if they did not, that could be the straw that broke the camel's back and their support for Biden can be retracted because of that alone.

One of our neighbors was diagnosed with it a few months ago. His behavior, gait, speech, and cognition are virtually identical to Biden's.

ETA we suspected that there was a serious health issue developing with the neighbor for several years (as with Biden) so while the diagnosis is relatively new, the effects of the dementia itself are definitely not.

LBD is a good guess. Have had a couple of friends die with it in the last five years or so.

The first one started off stumbling, which progressed to stammering and then not being able to express himself and finally not moving well at all and then death over the course of 18 months to two years.

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My wife is a RN of several years and she called it 6 weeks ago. We were watching some video of Biden and she said he's got Lewy Body Dimentia.
She said he was showing all the symptoms. I had never heard of it before.

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My friends father died of it a few years ago. Sad, sometimes quick demise.

Biden doesn't have long.

Hmm. Brain surgery in Biden's future?

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Visitor logs reviewed by The New York Post revealed that Dr. Kevin Cannard, a renowned Parkinson's expert at Walter Reed Medical Center, and Dr. John E. Atwood, a cardiologist from Walter Reed, had a meeting with Dr. Kevin O'Connor, Biden's personal doctor, and another doctor at the White House residence clinic on January 17.

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Dr. Cannard is a respected authority on Parkinson's disease and has served as the "neurology specialist supporting the White House Medical Unit" since 2012, according to his LinkedIn profile.

Cannard actively participates in clinical research with his colleagues at Vanderbilt University, collaborating on studies involving Deep Brain Stimulation therapy for early-stage Parkinson's Disease.

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He has a diagnosis and is getting treatments for it.

They are just hiding it.

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He has a diagnosis and is getting treatments for it.

They are just hiding it.

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Absolutely. My Mom died from it a couple of years ago.

Took her to a Dr at the very beginning. I'll never forget the Dr asking her to draw a clock that "says 4:30". Walked and talked pretty much like anybody at that point but for some reason that is a telltale sign. She couldn't do it.

FYI

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My mother died of Covid but had dementia and my grandad died of a type of Dementia but don't remember which.

But from those experiences whatever Biden has it is early stages. My mother, right before she was diagnosed, gave a speech in front of about 800 people on TCUs campus and more or less pulled it off. But there were signs, even in that speech, that those closest to her caught. But it took two more years before she couldn't drive anymore and died a year later of Covid. At that point she was starting to advance into forgetting who people were and all that.

Point is even with dementia she was able to pull off a 20 minute speech in front of hundreds of people, just like Biden can do. But the after party was a borderline disaster trying to get her focused on conversations. She went on to do some smaller events(this is all charity work stuff) well after her diagnosis, almost all the way to the point where she couldn't drive. But she could still speak with note cards pretty well, especially since most of her audience at that point recognized she had her struggles and other people were helping write the speeches. It was actually quite impressive.

That's where Biden is now. Somewhere relatively early in what could be a VERY long, slow decline. There is no possible way he has been making any real decisions for at least a year or so now and never will again.

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Sorry about your loss. But it sounds like your mother was a remarkable woman.

The deep brain stimulator is basically to reduce the debilitating hand tremors that some Parkinson's patients have, so bad that they can't feed themselves. The DBS improves things so that they can use their hands again.

It doesn't have an effect on the other symptoms.
And so far, I haven't seen the hand tremors in Biden. If Parkinsons, it may be suppressed by medications, or it may be that he just hasn't manifested the tremor. I don't know if LBD is associated with hand tremors.

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He has a diagnosis and is getting treatments for it.

They are just hiding it.

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Absolutely. My Mom died from it a couple of years ago.

Took her to a Dr at the very beginning. I'll never forget the Dr asking her to draw a clock that "says 4:30". Walked and talked pretty much like anybody at that point but for some reason that is a telltale sign. She couldn't do it.

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Few years ago when my mom had her annual tests the nurse asked her the same thing but they showed her the clock and asked what time it was. She said how do you want it? Four thirty or half past four?

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LBD causes changes in thinking abilities. These changes may include:

• Visual hallucinations, or seeing things that are not present. Visual hallucinations occur in up to 80 percent of people with LBD, often early on. Nonvisual hallucinations, such as hearing or smelling things that are not present, are less common than visual ones but may also occur.
• Unpredictable changes in concentration, attention, alertness, and wakefulness from day to day and sometimes throughout the day. Ideas may be disorganized, unclear, or illogical. These kinds of changes are common in LBD and may help distinguish it from Alzheimer's disease.
• Severe loss of thinking abilities that interfere with daily activities. Unlike in Alzheimer's dementia, memory problems may not be evident at first but often arise as LBD progresses. Other changes related to thinking may include poor judgment, confusion about time and place, and difficulty with language and numbers.

Movement problems and Lewy body dementia

Some people with LBD may not experience significant movement problems for several years. Others may have them early on. At first, movement symptoms, such as a change in handwriting, may be very mild and easily overlooked. Movement problems may include:

• Muscle rigidity or stiffness
• Shuffling walk, slow movement, or frozen stance
• Tremor or shaking, most commonly at rest
• Balance problems and repeated falls
• Stooped posture
• Loss of coordination
• Smaller handwriting than was usual for the person
• Reduced facial expression
• Difficulty swallowing
• A weak voice

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Hmmmm...

I know a neurologist that pointed out two years ago that Biden would not pass a simple perserverity test.

Lewy, Lewy he gotta go

My heart goes out to those of you telling of your parents or loved ones going through any form of dementia or related issues. My parents had many health issues, cancer and diabetes among them, but no dementia. I did have several clients who did, mostly the peer group of the CPA I bought my practice from, he was my parents' age. A few were in such bad shape, memory wise, I'd slip out and follow them home after they left the office, just to be sure they went to the right place.

Having said that, I really never had the proper amount of empathy or sympathy or whatever the proper word was for those going through that. Not sure why, I think in part because I could not grasp how that could happen, the mental or cognitive issues. Until it happened to me.

I have always had my balance, didn't shuffle, had good agility, have been and still am very active. If I tripped over something, I was always able to catch myself before I fell. And always have had a good memory. But one afternoon I was on the phone with my son, he sensed something was wrong. We were discussing a tenant matter and had already done so. He thought I was jacking with him. I vaguely remember the call. He got worried, had my wife go by the office, he drove home from work and they both took me to the emergency room. I was there from like 5pm until 11pm. They ran all sorts of tests on me. I do not remember the faces of the doctors or nurses or anyone else at the hospital, including family. I remember discussing a high school algebra/trig teacher. And discussing a former client with her daughter who happened to be at the hospital.

I got home and they had left three or four of those electrode things stuck to my side and chest which I thought was funny. Someone in the thread mentioned drawing a clock. They asked me to draw a clock with the time showing 4:45 (for example, I have forgotten what they asked). I nearly drew a rectangle and wrote 4:45 and said I have a digital clock, I thought that would be funny. But I drew a circle and put the hour hand on the 4 and the minute hand on the 9, then thought about it. It occurred to me that the hour hand would not be on the 4, it would nearly be on the 5 when it was 4:45. I drew a line through the hour hand, moved it appropriately, and told them it was a trick question. Then I wrote TIMEX on the face of the clock. The clock episode is all I remembered with any clarity for the entire 5 or 6 hours I was there. All that went on just did not write to my hard drive.

After that, my empathy or whatever for others suffering cognitive issues changed. I realized how it could just happen, without prior symptoms, and happen so suddenly, to anyone. It was one of those things I couldn't wrap my head around, until I experienced it. Sort of like not being able to tell others what it is like to die, because once you do, you cannot come back and describe it. I got a glimpse of the other side when I nearly drowned when I was 5 or 6, but I think I only got close to seeing and didn't see the whole thing, just a little.

jill is a real ***** to keep pushing biden like she is.

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There may not be a cure for Joe but there is a cure for the country. Get him the hell out of the White House.

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The only absolute test for PD and its variants comes with a post-mortem examination of the sufferer's brain. I know that inquiring minds might think that's a good idea for us to do yesterday, but it will have to wait until after Joe assumes room temperature on his own.

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I think today would be fine.

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My mother died of Covid but had dementia and my grandad died of a type of Dementia but don't remember which.

But from those experiences whatever Biden has it is early stages. My mother, right before she was diagnosed, gave a speech in front of about 800 people on TCUs campus and more or less pulled it off. But there were signs, even in that speech, that those closest to her caught. But it took two more years before she couldn't drive anymore and died a year later of Covid. At that point she was starting to advance into forgetting who people were and all that.

Point is even with dementia she was able to pull off a 20 minute speech in front of hundreds of people, just like Biden can do. But the after party was a borderline disaster trying to get her focused on conversations. She went on to do some smaller events(this is all charity work stuff) well after her diagnosis, almost all the way to the point where she couldn't drive. But she could still speak with note cards pretty well, especially since most of her audience at that point recognized she had her struggles and other people were helping write the speeches. It was actually quite impressive.

That's where Biden is now. Somewhere relatively early in what could be a VERY long, slow decline. There is no possible way he has been making any real decisions for at least a year or so now and never will again.

Edit out that last part about 2020

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Sorry about your loss. But it sounds like your mother was a remarkable woman.

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Thank You. I appreciate that. She adopted me when i was 20 days old. She taught thousands of kids in Ft Worth including some that post on this website. I can't remember her ever doing a thing for herself. It was always about others. Her greatest moments were when bonfire fell, or a friend died, or a charity needed help, etc. Fort Worth and the greater TCU community lost a great one when she died.

Covid was a terrible thing and a horrible way to die. But in the end it spared her the worst part of the dreaded disease.

Thanks again and have a great evening.

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The deep brain stimulator is basically to reduce the debilitating hand tremors that some Parkinson's patients have, so bad that they can't feed themselves. The DBS improves things so that they can use their hands again.

It doesn't have an effect on the other symptoms.
And so far, I haven't seen the hand tremors in Biden. If Parkinsons, it may be suppressed by medications, or it may be that he just hasn't manifested the tremor. I don't know if LBD is associated with hand tremors.

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Hand tremors. Isn't it odd he was holding a pen tightly for the entire Snuffalupogus interview? At least my wife and I noticed it was odd and commented on it.