New Study: East Antarctica Ice Stable for Last 85 years

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Challenging Modern Climate Narratives: Forgotten 1937 Aerial Photos Expose Antarctic Anomaly
https://scitechdaily.com/challenging-modern-climate-narratives-forgotten-1937-aerial-photos-expose-antarctic-anomaly/

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A study using a whaler's forgotten aerial photos from 1937 shows East Antarctica's ice has been stable and even grown, despite some early signs of weakening.

Extreme weather, melting glaciers, and rising sea levels are all indicators that the climate and the world's ice masses are in a critical state. However, a new study from the Department of Geosciences and Natural Resource Management at the University of Copenhagen reveals a positive anomaly.
Using hundreds of old aerial photographs dating back to 1937, combined with modern computer technology, researchers have tracked the evolution of glaciers in East Antarctica. This area, which spans approximately 2,000 kilometers of coastline, contains as much ice as the entire Greenland Ice Sheet. By comparing the historical aerial photos with modern satellite data, researchers determined the glaciers' movement and changes in size, revealing that the ice has not only remained stable but also grown slightly over the last 85 years, partly due to increased snowfall.

"We constantly hear about climate change and new melt records, so it's refreshing to observe an area of glaciers that has remained stable for almost a century," says PhD student Mads Dmgaard, the study's first author.

  • Out of 2200 images photographed from seaplanes in 1937, 130 were selected for the analysis.
  • The researchers combined the historical photos with modern satellite data to create 3D reconstructions of the glaciers.
  • The Norwegian aerial images were supplemented with 165 aerial images of the same glaciers from Australian surveys conducted between 1950 and 1974. This allowed the researchers to examine the evolution of the glaciers over different periods and calculate historical ice flow speeds for selected glaciers.
  • Compared to modern data, the ice flow speeds are unchanged. While some glaciers have thinned over shorter intermediate periods of 10-20 years, they have remained stable or grown slightly in the long term, indicating a system in balance.

I am not sure how the authors were able to publish this study, but it helps explain the lack of rise in sea level.
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How dare you!
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Iirc one side of Antarctica has glaciers that have been shown to be growing? Is that the east side?

It seems all the focus is on the glaciers melting on one side of Antarctica.... but like most "science", I'm sure that's only a small picture to the whole Antarctica ecosystem.
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VaultingChemist said:



I am not sure how the authors were able to publish this study, but it helps explain the lack of rise in sea level.
AKSHUALLYYYYYY, as the sea water rises, the extra weight of all that additional water puts more pressure on the water droplets below, compressing those water molecules into tighter "balls", therefore taking up the same amount of space as before the most recent ice melts.
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OdessaAg said:

How dare you!
Speaking of old pictures from Antarctica, I was lucky enough to attend two different lectures by Dr. Charles Passel, in which he showed numerous pictures he had taken in Antarctica during 1939-1941.

Dr. Passel was one of the original researchers that developed the "wind chill factor".
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VaultingChemist said:




Dr. Passel was one of the original researchers that developed the "wind chill factor".
ah yes, the first bogus climate/weather related "theory".
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Rossticus
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This article from last year demonstrates that they have no clue what's actually going on or why Arctic melt is occurring noticeably while Antarctic melt, not so much.

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-similar-antarctic-arctic-sea-ice.amp
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Rossticus said:

This article from last year demonstrates that they have no clue what's actually going on or why Arctic melt is occurring noticeably while Antarctic melt, not so much.

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-similar-antarctic-arctic-sea-ice.amp

Well obviously because heat rises and the most populous cities or in the northern hemisphere …science!
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Rossticus said:

This article from last year demonstrates that they have no clue what's actually going on or why Arctic melt is occurring noticeably while Antarctic melt, not so much.

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-similar-antarctic-arctic-sea-ice.amp


Man-made pole flipping. We can only stop it if we give all authority and money to the Left's regimes.
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Climate change acolytes would say it needs to be stable for 850 years.
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Rossticus said:

This article from last year demonstrates that they have no clue what's actually going on or why Arctic melt is occurring noticeably while Antarctic melt, not so much.

https://phys.org/news/2023-05-similar-antarctic-arctic-sea-ice.amp


Fortress of Solitude effect.
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This cannot be! What about all the wailing and gnashing of teeth, the anxiety, the feeling of doom that's all been created? Gen Z literally is not having children because they believe the earth won't survive the man-made global warming hoax.
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> New Study: East Antarctica Ice Stable for Last 85 years


Funky Winkerbean
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"Forgotten "

Isn't that special.
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C@LAg said:

VaultingChemist said:



I am not sure how the authors were able to publish this study, but it helps explain the lack of rise in sea level.
AKSHUALLYYYYYY, as the sea water rises, the extra weight of all that additional water puts more pressure on the water droplets below, compressing those water molecules into tighter "balls", therefore taking up the same amount of space as before the most recent ice melts.


Have fun trying to compress water in liquid form.
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Got a call from a polar bear this morning and boy are they excited to hear this news.
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buda91
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I'm going to have to do some look up to figure out where "East Antarctica" is. That phrase confuses my brain.
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It's why climate alarmist fanatics mainly focus on the Artic circle where ice build and recession is seasonal and thus "more dramatic".
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Cromagnum said:

C@LAg said:

VaultingChemist said:



I am not sure how the authors were able to publish this study, but it helps explain the lack of rise in sea level.
AKSHUALLYYYYYY, as the sea water rises, the extra weight of all that additional water puts more pressure on the water droplets below, compressing those water molecules into tighter "balls", therefore taking up the same amount of space as before the most recent ice melts.


Have fun trying to compress water in liquid form.
Easily done in the fantastical minds of liberals. This sounds typical of their spin.
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The aliens that live there won't let it melt.
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You shoulda been in central Texas 10,000 years ago. Cold as a sumbich but them Mammoths sure were tasty
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Sydney and Melbourne bracing for huge cold front and snow that is unusual. Must be some of that Antarctica melting.
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buda91 said:

I'm going to have to do some look up to figure out where "East Antarctica" is. That phrase confuses my brain.


Dude, it's the right side of the land mass if you are looking at it properly with the USA due north from it. Everyone knows this.

Now, the problem is that we don't have this information about West Antarctica so the Western Hemisphere may still be at risk for ocean rise. Eastern Hemisphere should be good it sounds like.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

"Forgotten "

Isn't that special.
There is still hope that we may find the Ark of the Covenant……..

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Hidden From the Nazis
Most of the images used in the study were captured during a 1937 expedition organized and paid for by Norwegian whaler Lars Christensen. The mission aimed to produce the first maps of this part of East Antarctica, but the maps were never published due to the German invasion of Norway. Since then, the images have been stored at the Norwegian Polar Institute in Troms and forgotten.
When the researchers from the University of Copenhagen read about the expedition, they realized that valuable images were likely hidden in an archive in Norway. They traveled to Troms and reviewed all 2200 images taken during the expedition. They supplemented the Norwegian aerial images with images of the same glaciers from Australian surveys conducted between 1950 and 1974.
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