Has anyone else been approached for the natural rights to your land?

https://www.intrinsicexchange.com/

My coworker was approached by this company to sell the natural rights to his land.

Apparently this is the right to farm and grow. And what this company does is pay a sum to buy your natural rights and then they have the right to tell you what to grow and how to grow it with an emphasis on sustainable practices such as
- no chemicals such as round up or nitrogen fertilizers
- lower intensity

and whatever else the climate religion demands (this apparently came from the greenies inflation reduction act).

The amount of money was not insignificant, supposedly around $500k but he turned it down after looking into what it really was.

It seems to me the dangers here are
- you no longer control your land, some one else does and they didn't pay full freight
- they can force you to use methods that make your farm uneconomical
- Done on a large scale this could significantly reduce the quantity of farm produce creating higher costs and more hunger

Any other details on this? I am hearing about it second hand but it sounds scary evil.

Might try the Outdoors Board. Those guys know everything about land use.

Thought it was more political in nature since it was related to Global Warming and the Inflation Reduction act.

I just thought it was nuts. I'll cross post there too.

Interesting topic, for sure. Here's hoping we don't see a significant expansion of this type of scenario.

It is quite political. Another garbage creation from the Biden administration. They are called natural asset companies and primarily trying to go after BLM leasing (shutting out oil & gas). Secondary is agricultural control. Just one of many things happening right now by the worst administration in history. Ironically, the "underserved communities" will be the ones most adversely impacted and they continue to cheer the loudest.

I'm assuming if you ever tried to sell the property, this natural rights sale would be disclosed, and you'd have a very hard time getting value for the full amount.

Never do this or anything like it!

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2021/11/06/conservation-or-land-grab-financialization-nature

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Partnering with the New York Stock Exchange team launching the NAC is the Intrinsic Exchange Group (IEG), major investors in which are the Rockefeller Foundation

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that tells me all i need to know about what their true intentions are.

SpreadsheetAg said:

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I'm assuming if you ever tried to sell the property, this natural rights sale would be disclosed, and you'd have a very hard time getting value for the full amount.

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It is like selling the mineral rights to your land. The owners can build, drill, and mine anywhere they want,

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SpreadsheetAg said:

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I'm assuming if you ever tried to sell the property, this natural rights sale would be disclosed, and you'd have a very hard time getting value for the full amount.

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It is like selling the mineral rights to your land. The owners can build, drill, and mine anywhere they want,

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Minerals are subsurface rights. When they need to use the surface they have to compensate the owner for it and the owner typically has some negotiating power to where the go

They are similar as you are giving up some of your bundle of rights but very different in what actual rights are given away.

this would be more akin to some big funds buying mineral rights for the sole purpose of preventing any E&P.
its essentially an offshoot of the conservation reserve program that people were talking about a few years ago, where the biden admin was purportedly paying farmers not to farm.

SpreadsheetAg said:

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I'm assuming if you ever tried to sell the property, this natural rights sale would be disclosed, and you'd have a very hard time getting value for the full amount.

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Knowing these pieces of ****, they'd give the rights to China.

As part owner of a family farm, **** Joe Biden.

Serious Lee said:

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this would be more akin to some big funds buying mineral rights for the sole purpose of preventing any E&P.
its essentially an offshoot of the conservation reserve program that people were talking about a few years ago, where the biden admin was purportedly paying farmers not to farm.

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CRP has been around for 40 years. It's not a Biden creation , it started during the Reagan administration.

There are also groups trying to buy up the water rights on irrigated farmland.

I won't ever try to understand why communists always starve millions of people to death, but it's nearly always their first step, and exactly what they're working on now.

im aware, never heard any talk of it until the last few years though.

It's been in play for forested properties for at least 20 years, where environmental groups will approach large landowners and offer to buy a "conservation easement" to prevent the property from ever being developed in the future. In some cases, it doesn't materially hurt resale value if the target areas are low-lying wetlands or extremely rugged terrain that can't be practically developed. But you could sure hurt yourself if you sold one of those on good productive land that could have higher value someday for farmland or subdivisions.

Fightin_Aggie said:

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Has anyone else been approached for the natural rights to your land?

https://www.intrinsicexchange.com/

My coworker was approached by this company to sell the natural rights to his land.

Apparently this is the right to farm and grow. And what this company does is pay a sum to buy your natural rights and then they have the right to tell you what to grow and how to grow it with an emphasis on sustainable practices such as
- no chemicals such as round up or nitrogen fertilizers
- lower intensity

and whatever else the climate religion demands (this apparently came from the greenies inflation reduction act).

The amount of money was not insignificant, supposedly around $500k but he turned it down after looking into what it really was.

It seems to me the dangers here are
- you no longer control your land, some one else does and they didn't pay full freight
- they can force you to use methods that make your farm uneconomical
- Done on a large scale this could significantly reduce the quantity of farm produce creating higher costs and more hunger

Any other details on this? I am hearing about it second hand but it sounds scary evil.

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Sounds like a conservation easement on steroids.

Dirt 05 said:

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There are also groups trying to buy up the water rights on irrigated farmland.

I won't ever try to understand why communists always starve millions of people to death, but it's nearly always their first step, and exactly what they're working on now.

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I do believe that is referred to as "Capitalism" not Communism. You see those groups are going to sell that water to municipalities at an inflated rate to make money.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is unregulated Capitalism will starve you also; it just takes longer for resources to coalesce into fewer hands.

"You know, farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."

President Dwight David Eisenhower, Address at Bradley University, Peoria, Illinois, 9/25/56

CanyonAg77 said:

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"You know, farming looks mighty easy when your plow is a pencil, and you're a thousand miles from the corn field."

President Dwight David Eisenhower, Address at Bradley University, Peoria, Illinois, 9/25/56

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this isn't even that, this is bait and switch. They know exactly what they want and trying to con farmers into taking the money, then they all the control. The left has the media, government, medical care, now they want control over food.

My guess is these groups get federal funding

You failed to make or support your point.

Capitalism will allocate resources to supply markets. There will always be a market for food. A valid critique could have been that's its subject to booms and busts. But it does not by its nature cause starvation and death.

Communism's basis in jealousy and laziness leads to starvation. Always. Marx couldn't support his own family losing 4 kids prior to adulthood while two of the remaining three committed suicide. And Engles was a trustafarian.

PeekingDuck said:

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It is quite political. Another garbage creation from the Biden administration. They are called natural asset companies and primarily trying to go after BLM leasing (shutting out oil & gas). Secondary is agricultural control. Just one of many things happening right now by the worst administration in history. Ironically, the "underserved communities" will be the ones most adversely impacted and they continue to cheer the loudest.

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Here's hoping for a spike in unemployment Q1 2025 as Trump dissolves so much of this worthless bureaucracy top to bottom.

Dirt 05 said:

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There are also groups trying to buy up the water rights on irrigated farmland.

I won't ever try to understand why communists always starve millions of people to death, but it's nearly always their first step, and exactly what they're working on now.

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Food and food production as a weapon of control is simple and effective. Just ask Stalin.

Fightin_Aggie said:

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.....The amount of money was not insignificant, supposedly around $500k.....

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Was it $500k for one acre or $500k for 10,000 acres? Might be germane to the conversation.

DamnGood86 said:

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Fightin_Aggie said:

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.....The amount of money was not insignificant, supposedly around $500k.....

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Was it $500k for one acre or $500k for 10,000 acres? Might be germane to the conversation.

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It is a large enough ranch to support 100 head but I don't know the exact size

Dirt 05 said:

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You failed to make or support your point.

Capitalism will allocate resources to supply markets. There will always be a market for food. A valid critique could have been that's its subject to booms and busts. But it does not by its nature cause starvation and death.

Communism's basis in jealousy and laziness leads to starvation. Always. Marx couldn't support his own family losing 4 kids prior to adulthood while two of the remaining three committed suicide. And Engles was a trustafarian.

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My point was through your example, you were trying to equate the purchase and selling of a resource (water) by a private entity to the government control of a resource and thus production.

I'm not an opponent of Capitalism but I am a realist. As time goes on resources will convalesce into fewer larger hands. Without government intervention, control over strategic resources by just a handful of entities will lead to increased prices to the consumer over time. I would think you would agree with that statement giving the history of monopolies in the US?

When I said both can lead to starvation, Capitalism is just slower I hope you can see how the control of a resource by a single entity can cause shortages either through mismanagement (both but mainly Communism) or the desire for increased profits. (Capitalism).

Btw, thank you for being civil.