trump vows to reverse xiden environment rules n stop new ones

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damiond
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/09/trump-oil-industry-campaign-money/
the leftist elites global warming scam hurts working class americans the most
drill baby drill
GeorgiAg
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Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Slicer97
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GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
barbacoa taco
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drain the swamp, replace with another swamp.
barbacoa taco
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Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for American oil execs and billionaires, so what?
fify
Old McDonald
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if the tiktok flip flop didn't make it obvious, trump's convictions start and end with "i want to be president," and everything else is up for sale in furtherance of that desire.

not that that makes him unique among politicians, but any lingering belief that Trump isn't beholden special interests because of his independent wealth should be put to bed at this point.
Shoefly!
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Communist talking points are out!
Slicer97
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barbacoa taco said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for American oil execs and billionaires, so what?
fify
If it's good for them, it's good for the middle class as well. Better than anything your side is going to give us.
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barbacoa taco said:

drain the swamp, replace with another swamp.
Cheap energy is good for individuals, families, and business. It permeates every facet of our lives and raises the standard of living for all Americans. If the O&G industry risks capital, invents products, builds infrastructure, and is successful and the people that work in it make a good living, so much the better. Biden's executive orders were meant to make energy prices higher for everyone and force Americans towards the myth of green energy.

Trump would just be reversing Biden's graft and blunders. At least he wouldn't be scamming everyone and selling fairy dust like Biden.

Get Off My Lawn
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FREE THE GAS CAN!
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GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Swampier than anyone in the Biden family?

Is this real life or has your TDS reached stage 4?
GeorgiAg
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ttha_aggie_09 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Swampier than anyone in the Biden family?

Is this real life or has your TDS reached stage 4?
TDS is "it's ok because my guy is doing it."

whether is 10% for the big guy or a $billion for the orange guy, it's wrong.
Captain Pablo
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GeorgiAg said:

ttha_aggie_09 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Swampier than anyone in the Biden family?

Is this real life or has your TDS reached stage 4?
TDS is "it's ok because my guy is doing it."

whether is 10% for the big guy or a $billion for the orange guy, it's wrong.


Tell ya what

Deregulate all of it

Turn oil, gas, coal, solar, wind over to the free market

Ok with that?
Jeeper79
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Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.
GeorgiAg
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Captain Pablo said:

GeorgiAg said:

ttha_aggie_09 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Swampier than anyone in the Biden family?

Is this real life or has your TDS reached stage 4?
TDS is "it's ok because my guy is doing it."

whether is 10% for the big guy or a $billion for the orange guy, it's wrong.


Tell ya what

Deregulate all of it

Turn oil, gas, coal, solar, wind over to the free market

Ok with that?
Well Trump is going to win, so we'll find out.
Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
Captain Pablo
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GeorgiAg said:

Captain Pablo said:

GeorgiAg said:

ttha_aggie_09 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Swampier than anyone in the Biden family?

Is this real life or has your TDS reached stage 4?
TDS is "it's ok because my guy is doing it."

whether is 10% for the big guy or a $billion for the orange guy, it's wrong.


Tell ya what

Deregulate all of it

Turn oil, gas, coal, solar, wind over to the free market

Ok with that?
Well Trump is going to win, so we'll find out.


But that doesn't answer the question. What are the ridiculous regulations doing in place to begin with? Undoing those is not "the swamp"

It's getting rid of government interference in the market.

Isn't that good?
Jeeper79
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Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.
Captain Pablo
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GeorgiAg said:

Captain Pablo said:

GeorgiAg said:

ttha_aggie_09 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
Swampier than anyone in the Biden family?

Is this real life or has your TDS reached stage 4?
TDS is "it's ok because my guy is doing it."

whether is 10% for the big guy or a $billion for the orange guy, it's wrong.


Tell ya what

Deregulate all of it

Turn oil, gas, coal, solar, wind over to the free market

Ok with that?
Well Trump is going to win, so we'll find out.


What problem do you have with Trump's economic and environmental regulatory record and plans?
Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What "means"?
Jeeper79
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Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.

Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
ttha_aggie_09
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Telling a room full of Oil folks "hey, I'll do what I did last time, protect domestic energy and limit the power of the EPA and/or cutback on regulations, you should donate to my campaign" is just common sense.

I am also sure you share the same outrage for the democrats when they solicit donations from Zuckerberg, Pfizer, and other companies that you have been told to praise...

And for the record, I don't really love Trump - but he's 100X better than Biden. If you didn't have a posting history that was so easily referenced, regarding your hatred for Trump, you would probably admit that too.
NE PA Ag
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Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What "ends"?
ttha_aggie_09
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What about:

Prosecute my political rival at all costs with no standing to do so
Raid his house in the middle of the night on made up classified info charges
Do EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER to prevent your opponent from being able to run against you

None of those things are swampier? The list could go on very long...
Jeeper79
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Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
Remove the specific person and the specific action from the equation. Taking special interest money in exchange for special interest policy is pretty swampy.
Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
Remove the specific person and the specific action from the equation. Taking special interest money in exchange for special interest policy is pretty swampy.


Huh?

OK, take away "special interest" donations (laughable coming from a liberal such a as yourself

Let's assume Trump proposes the same thing, without "special interest money"

You're ok with that, right?
Jeeper79
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And the record, I mostly don't care about the swamp, and I don't care if it lives or dies. I care about end results.
Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

And the record, I mostly don't care about the swamp, and I don't care if it lives or dies. I care about end results.


Uhhhhhh ……. yeah I know
Jeeper79
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Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
Remove the specific person and the specific action from the equation. Taking special interest money in exchange for special interest policy is pretty swampy.


Huh?

OK, take away "special interest" donations (laughable coming from a liberal such a as yourself

Let's assume Trump proposes the same thing, without "special interest money"

You're ok with that, right?
Yep. And I'm generally fine with special interest money. But I'm not one to go on and on about the swamp and how it needs to be drained.

And I'm an anti trumper but not a lib.
Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
Remove the specific person and the specific action from the equation. Taking special interest money in exchange for special interest policy is pretty swampy.


Huh?

OK, take away "special interest" donations (laughable coming from a liberal such a as yourself

Let's assume Trump proposes the same thing, without "special interest money"

You're ok with that, right?
Yep. And I'm fine with special interest money. But I'm not one to go on and on about the swamp and how it needs to be drained.


You're not?

Captain Pablo
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Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
Remove the specific person and the specific action from the equation. Taking special interest money in exchange for special interest policy is pretty swampy.


Huh?

OK, take away "special interest" donations (laughable coming from a liberal such a as yourself

Let's assume Trump proposes the same thing, without "special interest money"

You're ok with that, right?
Yep. And I'm generally fine with special interest money. But I'm not one to go on and on about the swamp and how it needs to be drained.

And I'm an anti trumper but not a lib.


You need to make up your mind if this is about "the swamp", "the means", "the ends", "Trump", or whatever

You're all over the place

Jeeper79
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Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Captain Pablo said:

Jeeper79 said:

Slicer97 said:

GeorgiAg said:

Drain the swamp? Dude that is the most swampiest thing ever.


Pay me a billion and I'll enter executive orders you want.
If it's good for America and the middle class, so what?
So what you're saying is that the swamp doesn't actually matter.


How is getting rid of bad regulations "the swamp"?

Why do you want regulations that choke off oil and gas development in place?
You miss my point. If the ends justify the means, then the means don't actually matter. So why ever complain about the means.


What means?
in this case, swampy behavior.




What swampy behavior?
Remove the specific person and the specific action from the equation. Taking special interest money in exchange for special interest policy is pretty swampy.


Huh?

OK, take away "special interest" donations (laughable coming from a liberal such a as yourself

Let's assume Trump proposes the same thing, without "special interest money"

You're ok with that, right?
Yep. And I'm generally fine with special interest money. But I'm not one to go on and on about the swamp and how it needs to be drained.

And I'm an anti trumper but not a lib.


You need to make up your mind if this is about "the swamp", "the means", "the ends", "Trump", or whatever

You're all over the place


I don't particularly care about draining the swamp, but nearly everybody else here cares deeply about draining the swamp… until the swamp does something they like (or rather, their favored candidate shows swampy tendencies) . Its commentary on mushy principles.
jteAg
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damiond said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/09/trump-oil-industry-campaign-money/
the leftist elites global warming scam hurts working class americans the most
drill baby drill

Ranked: Oil Production By Country, in 2022
The U.S. has been the world's biggest oil producer since 2018 and continued its dominance in 2022 by producing close to 18 million barrels per day (B/D). This accounted for nearly one-fifth of the world's oil supply
Looks like the U.S. has been drilling…
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Old McDonald said:

if the tiktok flip flop didn't make it obvious, trump's convictions start and end with "i want to be president," and everything else is up for sale in furtherance of that desire.

not that that makes him unique among politicians, but any lingering belief that Trump isn't beholden special interests because of his independent wealth should be put to bed at this point.
Well...His position on O&G hasn't changed.

Your problem is trying to conflate politicians that CHANGE their position in order to get money with someone who RESTATES his longtime position and asks for money.

They are not the same thing...
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