house passes antisemitism bill

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6:18p, 5/1/24


Someone please tell me how this does not violate the 1st amendment? This basically means we can't even read the New Testament without doing something illegal. I can't wait to read antisemitic warnings on the front of every Bible soon.

If this is just one of those "toothless" bills then why did we even waste our time with this?
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 6:20p, 5/1/24
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Nanomachines son said:


Someone please tell me how this does not violate the 1st amendment? This basically means we can't even read the New Testament without doing something illegal. I can't wait to read antisemitic warnings on the front of every Bible soon.

If this is just one of those "toothless" bills then why did we even waste our time with this?


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6:21p, 5/1/24
Our "elected" officials are morons.
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6:21p, 5/1/24




Incredible, this is laying the groundwork to make Christianity illegal.
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In reply to RebelE Infantry • 6:22p, 5/1/24
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Nanomachines son said:


Someone please tell me how this does not violate the 1st amendment? This basically means we can't even read the New Testament without doing something illegal. I can't wait to read antisemitic warnings on the front of every Bible soon.

If this is just one of those "toothless" bills then why did we even waste our time with this?


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Well yeah, this is expected.
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6:23p, 5/1/24
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This basically means we can't even read the New Testament without doing something illegal.


You really think that? Funny.

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6:30p, 5/1/24
Does it actually ban "any criticism" of Israel, or just Hamas/Nazi-style rhetoric about eradicating Israel?
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In reply to BonfireNerd04 • 6:31p, 5/1/24
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Does it actually ban "any criticism" of Israel, or just Hamas/Nazi-style rhetoric about eradicating Israel?
It doesn't matter. it's unconstitutional.
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In reply to BonfireNerd04 • 6:34p, 5/1/24
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Does it actually ban "any criticism" of Israel, or just Hamas/Nazi-style rhetoric about eradicating Israel?


Neither.

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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:36p, 5/1/24
I hate siding with liberals but tick tock until your holy book faces a lawsuit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_and_the_New_Testament
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In reply to BonfireNerd04 • 6:37p, 5/1/24
Comparisons of Israel to Nazis, believe it or not illegal. That's actually in the bill.

Comparisons of conservatives to Nazis? Believe it or not medal of honor.
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In reply to AggieCVQ • 6:38p, 5/1/24
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I hate siding with liberals but tick tock until your holy book faces a lawsuit

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism_and_the_New_Testament


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In reply to AggieCVQ • 6:38p, 5/1/24
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Comparisons of Israel to Nazis, believe it or not illegal. That's actually in the bill.

Comparisons of conservatives to Nazis? Believe it or not medal of honor.
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In reply to BadMoonRisin • 6:43p, 5/1/24
I pretty much have one position: AIPAC has way too much influence on our government.

We are the United States of America, not the dogs of Israel.

Whether you are a liberal or conservative, realize that.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:44p, 5/1/24
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This basically means we can't even read the New Testament without doing something illegal.


You really think that? Funny.


Then explain it in the context of the bill without being snarky because as far as I can see they will prosecute these things as hate speech.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 6:44p, 5/1/24
Then you didn't read the bill.

Quote the language regarding prosecuting someone for reading the new testament. Not a tweet, the actual bill.

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In reply to AggieCVQ • 6:45p, 5/1/24
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I pretty much have one position: AIPAC has way too much influence on our government.

We are the United States of America, not the dogs of Israel.

Whether you are a liberal or conservative, realize that.


Yes but they are OUR GREATEST ALLY and therefore are immune to criticism and must be protected at all costs. Also you must admit they are the chosen and did nothing wrong ever even to Jesus or else you are evil.
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6:46p, 5/1/24
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Rs really need to get off their knees for Israel. It's becoming silly. Like somebody mentioned, I can call Trump Hitler but I can't call Bibi Hitler. WTF.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:46p, 5/1/24
Sometimes the jump between "it can't happen" and "I can't believe it happened" is time.
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6:49p, 5/1/24
The actual text of H.B. 6090 looks pretty reasonable to me.
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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:49p, 5/1/24
Im Gipper said:
Then you didn't read the bill.

Quote the language regarding prosecuting someone for reading the new testament. Not a tweet, the actual bill.


I'm asking you to provide this information.







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In reply to Nanomachines son • 6:52p, 5/1/24
Try again

Quote the language regarding prosecuting someone for reading the new testament. Not a tweet, the actual bill.

You made the claim. Support it!



This bills seems like an unnecessary bit of virtue signaling to me. But it doesn't criminalize reading the New Testament or calling Bibi Hitler or the other hilarious things claimed here


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In reply to BonfireNerd04 • 6:54p, 5/1/24
BonfireNerd04 said:
The actual text of H.B. 6090 looks pretty reasonable to me.


The department of education using these definitions is a problem. Why is the text of the bill of rights or the constitution not enough? Why must we use an outside source to determine what is considered hate speech against a specific people? Does this mean we should allow each individual group to define hate speech against themselves? Is that how it works?
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In reply to Im Gipper • 6:56p, 5/1/24
Im Gipper said:
Try again

Quote the language regarding prosecuting someone for reading the new testament. Not a tweet, the actual bill.

You made the claim. Support it!



This bills seems like an unnecessary bit of virtue signaling to me. But it doesn't criminalize reading the New Testament or calling Bibi Hitler or the other hilarious things claimed here



I read the bill, it's short but says the department of education should use outside sources to determine discrimination against Jews instead of a universal definition. They effectively opened the door for every group to define hate speech against itself and this will be used by the department of education to punish people now that they have used an ultra broad definition of hate speech.
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6:57p, 5/1/24
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25 EU countries have similar law defining antisemitism.

https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/policies/justice-and-fundamental-rights/combatting-discrimination/racism-and-xenophobia/combating-antisemitism/definition-antisemitism_en
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6:57p, 5/1/24
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I support Israel in general and do believe they are an ally, but they should not be able to draft bills and send them to Washington for our politicians to pass that would criminalize US citizens for criticizing the Israeli government or Jews in general. Full Stop.

Our politicians are supposed to represent the will of the people, not the will of Israel.

This can only be a bad thing, especially considering that charges would never be pressed against the people that this bill was intended to target in the first place and everyone knows it.

If you are tired of seeing the revolving door every 12 hours after police go and clean up these encampments and the same people show up the next day, you know this is absolutely what is going to happen.

Charges will always be dropped for the Marxists, and only conservatives would be punished by it.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 6:57p, 5/1/24
Then Quote the language regarding prosecuting someone for reading the New Testament.

Surely you can show us?

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7:02p, 5/1/24
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Pathetic... The government is looking for a revolution
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In reply to Im Gipper • 7:02p, 5/1/24
Let's stop for a moment and look at the IHRA definition.

1. The IHRA definition includes as an example of antisemitism the accusation that "Jews are responsible for or complicit in imagined or real wrongdoing," which includes blaming Jews collectively for the death of Jesus.

2. Portraying leaders in negative light is another. Certain passages in the New Testament, particularly in the Gospels, portray Jewish religious leaders in a negative light! For instance, the Gospels of Matthew and John contain passages that characterize Pharisees and scribes as hypocritical and resistant to Jesus' teachings. In John 8:44, Jesus addresses Jewish leaders and accuses them of being children of the devil, a passage that has been cited to justify antisemitic attitudes.

So the New Testament by 2 counts is antisemitic. Do you support antisemitism by supporting this book? Let's play it like a congressman would at a hearing..

Do you support antisemitism? Yes or no. Please don't give any more detail.






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In reply to Im Gipper • 7:03p, 5/1/24
Im Gipper said:
Then Quote the language regarding prosecuting someone for reading the New Testament.

Surely you can show us?




The bill directly references the IHRA definition of antisemitism. The IHRA lists those above as examples of antisemitism. That is you cannot claim the Jews killed Jesus.

I would directly reference their website but it's down and isn't working (shocker).
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In reply to AggieCVQ • 7:04p, 5/1/24
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Do you support antisemitism? Yes or no. Please don't give any more detail.


No.



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In reply to Im Gipper • 7:05p, 5/1/24
Then let's ban the New Testament! Case closed ladies and gents you heard him.
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In reply to Nanomachines son • 7:06p, 5/1/24
You again keep shoring tweets claiming things this Bill doesn't say.

Why are you so afraid to just show us in the bill where you can be prosecuted for reading the New Testament?

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In reply to AggieCVQ • 7:08p, 5/1/24
AggieCVQ said:
Then let's ban the New Testament! Case closed ladies and gents you heard him.


Bless your heart.

You aren't a Christian, so no offense but your silly attempts to define what the Bible means is a tad worthless.

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7:08p, 5/1/24


At least one Congressman knows what he is doing.
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