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I like May Day because so many of my overseas co-workers are off for the day. I came into work today with almost no overnight emails.

Bubblez said:

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We really should have today as a holiday as well. Celebrating the people whose greatness form the bedrock foundation of this country. It's only from the fruits of the American workers is how the United States rose to be the leader of the free world.

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Don't you know? We only celebrate people who have a certain skin color, or lack something between their legs or want to lack something in between their legs.

may day roots go back much further than people think. i believe festivities started in roman times. it was a celebration of agriculture and a marker of time u til the summer solstice. clearly hikacked by communists, but it's roots are much older.

Detmersdislocatedshoulder said:

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may day roots go back much further than people think. i believe festivities started in roman times. it was a celebration of agriculture and a marker of time u til the summer solstice. clearly hikacked by communists, but it's roots are much older.

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So a pagan holiday either way. Thanks for the clarification.

StandUpforAmerica said:

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I like May Day because so many of my overseas co-workers are off for the day. I came into work today with almost no overnight emails.

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Same here. Most of my colleagues are overseas, so today is almost a day off. A chance to get caught up... but I'm here on TexAgs

Most happy wishes on this bountiful day commemorating glorious peoples workers revolution!

Comrade workers! May Day is coming, the day when the workers of all lands celebrate Their awakening to a class- conscious life, their solidarity in the struggle against all coercion and oppression of man by man, the struggle to free the toiling millions from hunger, poverty, and humiliation. Two worlds stand facing each other in this great struggle: the world of capital and the world of labour, the world of exploitation and slavery and the world of brotherhood and freedom

V.I. Lenin: May Day
Written: Written in April 1904
Published: Published, with alterations, in leaflet form in April 1904. Published according to the manuscript.

Ghost Mech said:

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""Communism is an ideology created by a loser, who created an ideology for losers. Because there are still a lot of losers out there, losers who will blame everything else for their lack of success but themselves."

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In reference to your video.

This gal nails it !!! So good to see young people are getting wise to this 170 year old lie that has done nothing but kill millions and leave half the planet impoverished.

"The day will come when our silence will be more powerful than the voices you strangle today."

-August Spies

There has been no greater evil ideology created by men than socialism/communism. It has killed more people than any other in world history.

Bubblez said:

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We really should have today as a holiday as well. Celebrating the people whose greatness form the bedrock foundation of this country. It's only from the fruits of the American workers is how the United States rose to be the leader of the free world.

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A blessed Feast Day of St Joseph the Worker and beginning of the month of the Blessed Virgin Mary to all!

Gaw617 said:

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There has been no greater evil ideology created by men than socialism/communism. It has killed more people than any other in world history.

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The French Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for all mankind.

Vive le Roi!

Yay let's celebrate the wonderful ideology of communism...

American Hardwood said:

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The risk takers are far more important than worker drones.

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I would say they're equally important.

Communists and socialists say that capitalism is evil because it's driven by greed, but that's an ad hominem driven mischaracterization. Capitalism is driven by individual self-interest, whether for money, leisure time, self-fulfillment, or otherwise, and there are plenty of games and research within economics and game theory that show the optimal strategy for maximizing individual self-interest is not greed, but equitable cooperation. If you want something, the easiest and best easy to get it is to work with others to further your collective self-interests, but if you get greedy you will lose cooperation and get suboptimal results.

"Risk takers," cannot build businesses or create products and services without, "worker drones." "Worker drones," didn't have jobs without, "risk takers." Neither can exist on their own, and both sides would do well to remember it.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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American Hardwood said:

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The risk takers are far more important than worker drones.

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I would say they're equally important.

Communists and socialists say that capitalism is evil because it's driven by greed, but that's an ad hominem driven mischaracterization. Capitalism is driven by individual self-interest, whether for money, leisure time, self-fulfillment, or otherwise, and there are plenty of games and research within economics and game theory that show the optimal strategy for maximizing individual self-interest is not greed, but equitable cooperation. If you want something, the easiest and best easy to get it is to work with others to further your collective self-interests, but if you get greedy you will lose cooperation and get suboptimal results.

"Risk takers," cannot build businesses or create products and services without, "worker drones." "Worker drones," didn't have jobs without, "risk takers." Neither can exist on their own, and both sides would do well to remember it.

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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American Hardwood said:

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The risk takers are far more important than worker drones.

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I would say they're equally important.

Communists and socialists say that capitalism is evil because it's driven by greed, but that's an ad hominem driven mischaracterization. Capitalism is driven by individual self-interest, whether for money, leisure time, self-fulfillment, or otherwise, and there are plenty of games and research within economics and game theory that show the optimal strategy for maximizing individual self-interest is not greed, but equitable cooperation. If you want something, the easiest and best easy to get it is to work with others to further your collective self-interests, but if you get greedy you will lose cooperation and get suboptimal results.

"Risk takers," cannot build businesses or create products and services without, "worker drones." "Worker drones," didn't have jobs without, "risk takers." Neither can exist on their own, and both sides would do well to remember it.

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Of course, the risk takers need workers to implement the goal, not going to disagree with you there. But, the risk taker comes first. Without the risk taker, there is no job to begin with.

However, I was really reacting to the OP. Whenever a Communist takes about "the worker", it isn't about the liberty of people to seek employment for the betterment of themselves or to be a part of an entrepreneurial endeavor, it's about being a robotic, drone slave to an oppressive state. In that sense risk takers are far more valuable than a mindless drone burning away his lifetime behind the gears of governance.

Bubblez said:

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We really should have today as a holiday as well. Celebrating the people whose greatness form the bedrock foundation of this country. It's only from the fruits of the American workers is how the United States rose to be the leader of the free world.

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I got you a present so you can celebrate...

https://theexplanationproject.fandom.com/wiki/The_Story_of_the_Twentieth_Century_Motor_Company_(told_by_Jeff_Allen,_the_tramp_on_Dagny%27s_train)


I encourage you to read the entire excerpt at the link OP.

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We're all one big family, they told us, we're all in this together. But you don't all stand working an acetylene torch ten hours a day -- together, and you don't all get a bellyache -- together. What's whose ability and which of whose needs comes first? When it's all one pot, you can't let any man decide what his own needs are, can you? If you did, he might claim that he needs a yacht -- and if his feelings is all you have to go by, he might prove it, too. Why not? If it's not right for me to own a car until I've worked myself into a hospital ward, earning a car for every loafer and every naked savage on earth -- why can't he demand a yacht from me, too, if I still have the ability not to have collapsed? No? He can't? Then why can he demand that I go without cream for my coffee until he's replastered his living room? ... Oh well... Well, anyway, it was decided that nobody had the right to judge his own need or ability. We voted on it. Yes, ma'am, we voted on it in a public meeting twice a year. How else could it be done? Do you care to think what would happen at such a meeting? It took us just one meeting to discover that we had become beggars -- rotten, whining, sniveling beggars, all of us, because no man could claim his pay as his rightful earning, he had no rights and no earnings, his work didn't belong to him, it belonged to 'the family' -- and they owed him nothing in return, and the only claim he had on them was his 'need' -- so he had to beg in public for his relief from his needs, like any lousy moocher, listing all his troubles and miseries, down to his patched drawers and his wife's head colds, hoping that 'the family' would throw him the alms. He had to claim miseries, because it's miseries, not work, that had become the coin of the realm -- so it turned into a contest among six thousand panhandlers, each claiming that his need was worse than his brother's. How else could it be done? Do you care to guess what happened, what sort of men kept quiet, feeling shame, and what sort got away with the jackpot?

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