"Super-core" inflation: Fed may have a real problem

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MemphisAg1
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Adding a thread to dive into this concept of "super-core" inflation, a measure the Fed uses to understand what's really going on after you strip out volatile food and energy costs, and then also removing housing cost impacts which can be transitory.

Super-core is essentially the cost of everything else; some think of it as the cost of services in the broader economy. It's heavily influenced by labor cost trends, but can also be impacted by things like insurance cost and property taxes. It tends to be "sticky" and can be difficult to get under control.

So not only are we feeling it at the grocery store, gas pump, and in the mortgage/rent check, but everywhere else... as we already know, but Biden, the Dems, and media keep trying to tell us different.

Will be interesting to see what happens here and how it impacts the election with so many other wildcards like Biden's dementia, Trump's legal risk, abortion on the ballot in some swing states, etc.

My current view is if inflation doesn't get much worse, the balance of all that still falls slightly in the Dem's favor. But if we see full-on Israeli/Iranian conflict or something else that ignites gas prices and pushes inflation back up to the 8% range or higher before the election, Biden is toast.

Get your popcorn ready.

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  • Markets are buzzing about an even more specific prices gauge contained within the data the so-called supercore inflation reading.
  • The gauge measures services inflation excluding food, energy and housing and has been roaring higher lately, up 4.8% year over year in March and more than 8% at a 3-month annualized pace.
  • The picture is more complicated because some of the most stubborn components of services inflation are household necessities like car and housing insurance as well as property taxes.

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Further complicating the backdrop is a dwindling consumer savings rate and higher borrowing costs which make the central bank more likely to keep monetary policy restrictive "until something breaks," Fitzpatrick said.

The Fed will have a hard time bringing down inflation with more rate hikes because the current drivers are stickier and not as sensitive to tighter monetary policy, he cautioned. Fitzpatrick said the recent upward moves in inflation are more closely analogous to tax increases.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/10/the-supercore-inflation-measure-shows-fed-may-have-a-real-problem-on-its-hands.html
AgBQ-00
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In other words: they have effed the economy so hard even their cherry picked stats to hide inflation are showing the results of their plans/decisions.
LMCane
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If Israel is forced to attack Iran-

Biden and the leftists will just blame the Jews for high inflation and prices.
AggieRain
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LMCane said:

If Israel is forced to attack Iran-

Biden and the leftists will just blame the Jews for high inflation and prices.
Putin's Price Hike. Did that work before?
Get Off My Lawn
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The voters who decide elections (to the degree that still exists) neither know nor care about any economic metrics.

"Are you better off today than you were 5 years ago?"

As to the political discourse: "core inflation" sounds like an extra squishy concept ripe for manipulation.
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MemphisAg1 said:

But if we see full-on Israeli/Iranian conflict or something else that ignites gas prices and pushes inflation back up to the 8% range or higher before the election, Biden is toast.

The fact that we might see a full Israel/Iran conflict is exactly why Biden should already be toast.

This wouldn't have happened if the democrats didn't steal the 2020 election. It's not a coincidence that Russia waited until early in Biden's reign to invade Ukraine. It's not a surprise that Hamas attacked Israel and triggered this war during the Biden regime.

Donald Trump was good for world peace. If the democrats really want to see world peace again, they'll vote for Trump.

ETA: I recognize that I zeroed in on one point in the OP that's not really relevant to the overall message.
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waitwhat? said:

MemphisAg1 said:

But if we see full-on Israeli/Iranian conflict or something else that ignites gas prices and pushes inflation back up to the 8% range or higher before the election, Biden is toast.

The fact that we might see a full Israel/Iran conflict is exactly why Biden should already be toast.

This wouldn't have happened if the democrats didn't steal the 2020 election. It's not a coincidence that Russia waited until early in Biden's reign to invade Ukraine. It's not a surprise that Hamas attacked Israel and triggered this war during the Biden regime.

Donald Trump was good for world peace. If the democrats really want to see world peace again, they'll vote for Trump.

ETA: I recognize that I zeroed in on one point in the OP that's not really relevant to the overall message.

The Dems want power. It's why this regime is thick as thieves with China. They talk like they aren't but they love and adore China's social controls, just as China's government loves the money they are making using their entire economy in a capitalist economy across the world. They use the US for $$$ and we use them for control, hence the Covid bomb on the world to get rid of Trump.
This isn't changing this year, either. Most likely, as I've said for a year now, Newsom will come running in from the bullpen in the months ahead and will "supercharge" their ticket (MSM words). The Swamp ain't letting Trump anywhere near the White House ever again.
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pfo
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Biden created the inflation. Biden could reduce inflation by spending less and repealing every single thing he has done since taking office.

But the truth is, Biden and the democrats plus some RINOs want inflation. It's the only way they will be able to service the debt (with cheap valueless dollars) and still spend , borrow and print like drunken fools!

Plus Obama and his l/Biden's staff and Soros are making all these policies and they want to destroy America. That is their end goal and rebuild America back into full blown communism
96AgGrad
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At some point Biden's team will stop pretending there's no inflation problem, and they'll immediately rebrand it as "MAGA-inflation" while wiping their hands of it, just like they did with the border crisis.
MD1993
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I would assume that with inflation that high, then some or all of the GDP is being driven by inflation, and government spending. We are not really growing, these are echos into a cave.
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96AgGrad said:

At some point Biden's team will stop pretending there's no inflation problem, and they'll immediately rebrand it as "MAGA-inflation" while wiping their hands of it, just like they did with the border crisis.

And all the media will dutifully switch to the new narrative within the hour.
RafterAg223
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CM's here tell us that the US economy is really good by every metric.
bmks270
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Tossing out basic needs like food and shelter and energy/electric when looking at inflation? Wtf is this clown show?

Muy
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This nation is now run by non-serious clowns on the left (and right).
halfastros81
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Even then it still looks bad
MemphisAg1
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bmks270 said:

Tossing out basic needs like food and shelter and energy/electric when looking at inflation? Wtf is this clown show?


I thought that way for awhile also when I would see the term "core" inflation because it was usually a politician or the media trying to claim that inflation really wasn't as bad as the overall CPI print. When used in that context, it's BS because consumers feel the impact of overall inflation regardless of what's going on with core or super-core inflation.

But when used as a diagnostic metric to understand if underlying inflation is trending better or worse after you strip out the volatile items like food and energy, it can make sense from a scientific perspective. That can be true whether overall CPI is good or bad because for example, if lower energy and food costs offset the impact of higher core inflation, you might be led to believe that everything is OK at your pocketbook level, but underneath the hood some things are brewing that will impact your pocketbook once food and energy trend back to normal.

I'll give the authors of that article in the OP some credit because they dug a little deeper and highlighted that super-core inflation is well above the 2% target and doesn't appear headed down significantly anytime soon. That refutes Biden's public statements that "everything is fine and getting better."
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Powell won't do what's necessary, we did this in the 70's. It's going to take a major interest rate hike and a recession, to stop inflation, it's going to hurt,.
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MemphisAg1 said:


  • Markets are buzzing about an even more specific prices gauge contained within the data the so-called supercore inflation reading.
  • The gauge measures services inflation excluding food, energy and housing and has been roaring higher lately, up 4.8% year over year in March and more than 8% at a 3-month annualized pace.
  • The picture is more complicated because some of the most stubborn components of services inflation are household necessities like car and housing insurance as well as property taxes.


I'd be ecstatic if mine was only up 5% yoy. Homeowners insurance has been absurd.
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