Mexican President: Mexico First! We Won't Crack Down On Cartels

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UTExan
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https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/mexico-s-president-says-he-won-t-fight-drug-cartels-on-us-orders-calls-it-a-mexico-first-policy/ar-BB1knfRW

" Mexico's president said Friday he won't fight Mexican drug cartels on U.S. orders, in the clearest explanation yet of his refusal to confront the gangs."

"Over the years, President Andrs Manuel Lpez Obrador has laid out various justifications for his "hugs, not bullets" policy of avoiding clashes with the cartels. In the past he has said "you cannot fight violence with violence," and on other occasions he has argued the government has to address "the causes" of drug cartel violence, ascribing them to poverty or a lack of opportunities."

" "We are not going to act as policemen for any foreign government," Lpez Obrador said at his daily news briefing. "Mexico First. Our home comes first."

"Lpez Obrador basically argued that drugs were a U.S. problem, not a Mexican one. He offered to help limit the flow of drugs into the United States, but only, he said, on humanitarian grounds."

"Of course we are going to cooperate in fighting drugs, above all because it has become a very sensitive, very sad humanitarian issue, because a lot of young people are dying in the United States because of fentanyl," the president said. Over 70,000 Americans die annually because of synthetic opioids like fentanyl, which are mainly made in Mexico from precursor chemicals smuggled in from China."
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Or it could be that he's bought and paid for with cartel money.


“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
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AlaskanAg99
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Well he's bought and paid for.
aTm '99
BigRobSA
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Ok, mensa. How about we start having black ops guys go into "Mexico first!" and start whacking the cartels mofos?

That's "humanitarian" for the rest of us.
Slicer97
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UTExan said:

In the past he has said "you cannot fight violence with violence,"


This is a lie.

The most effective method to quell violence is by using greater violence to the point the offenders are unwilling to risk further violence because they are unable to meet it.
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
Heineken-Ashi
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Notice how he never said things like that under the last president.

He's pushing the worst of his country into the US using the cartels as taxi. A strong president would draw a hard line in the sand and be ready to severely punish, using whatever means it takes, if line is crossed.
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AlaskanAg99
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He also said MX wouldnt take back their citizens when expelled from the US.
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Texas velvet maestro
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I think it goes Bimbo, Telcel and then the cartels, and the cartels probably own a controlling interest in Bimbo and Telcel. because they do silver or lead. just like the cia.
TRADUCTOR
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Need to sicario movie the cartel.
suburban cowboy
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Bought and paid for? I think he just likes not having his entire family decapitated.
UTExan
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I am certain that we have small drones flying at low level which could take out cartel bosses and key operatives. I guess the political will to deal with an existential enemy is nonexistent at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue right now.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
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The Banned
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If the current power imbalance existed couple hundred years ago, we'd have just taken the whole country. The citizens of Mexico would be in a much situation.
Canyon Lake Agbu94
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The cartels can only be taken down by the US. Mexico must be taken over and then rid the earth of the cartels. Another added bonus would be the smaller southern border.
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The Banned
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Struggle and Strifer said:

The cartels can only be taken down by the US. Mexico must be taken over and then rid the earth of the cartels. Another added bonus would be the smaller southern border.


And some awesome vacation spots
45-70Ag
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We know where every cartel leader lives, what they drive, where they hide and where they vacation. Droning them to death would take little effort
notex
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Why would he take on the cartels and the US government, who are partners in the trafficking/human smuggling and drugs? To do that would be entirely irrational for the Mexican president.
BrazosDog02
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suburban cowboy said:

Bought and paid for? I think he just likes not having his entire family decapitated.


This. You aren't going to beat the cartels in Mexico with Mexico. That fight will have to come here.

$3 Sack of Groceries
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We should have invaded Mexico and cleaned it out rather than Iraq.
TexasAggiesWin
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Know it's a bit apples to oranges, but our current president (Joey B.) made fun of Trump for saying that Mexico will pay for a wall at the border.

This same idiot, our current president, now wants Mexico to police the cartels. If it weren't for (D)ouble standar(D)s, they'd have no standar(D)s.
DeProfundis
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The old way of politics isn't working because the federates aren't strong enough of a swing power.

The government used to tacitly ally with the least crazy of the gang leaders and support them in their turf wars against the others, but unfortunately all of their (Mexican govt) middle to upper management are playing "free agent" and selling out to whichever cartel takes care of them the best, so even the federales can't present a united front.

The only thing that fixes this is a Bukele plan on steroids. Probably more like a Duterte plan. Police death squads killing anyone who looks like they might be part of a cartel. Tons of collateral damage, but about the only hope that Mexico has.

You can't jail these guys, they'll pay off the jailers or just break out.
Logos Stick
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$240 Worth of Pudding said:

We should have invaded Mexico and cleaned it out rather than Iraq.
Old May Banker
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The us government has no more interest in ridding the world of the cartels than the Mexican government does.
Sq 17
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Slicer97 said:

UTExan said:

In the past he has said "you cannot fight violence with violence,"


This is a lie.

The most effective method to quell violence is by using greater violence to the point the offenders are unwilling to risk further violence because they are unable to meet it.



One of the many great quotes from Starship Troopers

"Force doesn't solve the problem"-Denise Richards character
Teacher disagrees " Force is the only thing that solves a problem "
e=mc2
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TRADUCTOR said:

Need to sicario movie the cartel.


Those movies are great. Wish they'd make another one.
agAngeldad
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AlaskanAg99 said:

Well he's bought and paid for.


He is obviously not the only leader.
Ellis Wyatt
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BigRobSA said:

Ok, mensa. How about we start having black ops guys go into "Mexico first!" and start whacking the cartels mofos?

That's "humanitarian" for the rest of us.
Under whose orders? The president undoubtedly cares more about cartel members than Americans.
aggiehawg
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Heineken-Ashi said:

Notice how he never said things like that under the last president.

He's pushing the worst of his country into the US using the cartels as taxi. A strong president would draw a hard line in the sand and be ready to severely punish, using whatever means it takes, if line is crossed.
Because he knew Trump would clamp down on remittances back to Mexico and restrict that revenue stream if not shut it down altogether.
B-1 83
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The Mexican cartels present a clear and present danger to the peace and sovereignty of the United Stares, are clearly terrorist organizations, and should be treated as such.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
MaxPower
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This. If there's no threat of closing down borders and therefore the flow of YS dollars into Mexico then there's no reason for him to invest in taking on the cartel. Just another data point that shows how unserious our current moron is.
ChemAg15
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We just need to use those drones Obama was so fond of. We know who these people are and where they live. They shouldn't be allowed to operate in broad daylight.
WT FOX
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B-1 83 said:

The Mexican cartels present a clear and present danger to the peace and sovereignty of the United Stares, are clearly terrorist organizations, and should be treated as such.


I saw that movie. We left our troops out to dry. Harrison Ford was excellent as Jack Ryan.
snowdog90
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1. This is the only war I'm for. Congress should declare war on Mexico and tear it all down. Destroy the cartels, jail the corrupt politicians and cops and rebuild the country with jobs that Mexicans can do without having to come here.

2. This will never happen because our politicians are as corrupt as Mexican politicians. They make great money from the cartels and don't care that fentanyl is killing 100,000+ Americans every year.
APHIS AG
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So basically, he is sacrificing his own people that are being brutalized and murdered by the cartels.

What a POS.

If he says that it is our "problem", then maybe we should go in and take care of that problem.
MouthBQ98
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Seal the border to ALL activity. We'll see how long Mexico ignores the problem then…
Not Coach Jimbo
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Simple response...

If you won't handle cartels that are spilling over into america.

Then we will do it for you and then send you the bill.

If you won't sanction this, then we will sanction you.

Suspect the problem gets fixed reeeall quick when someone with a pair actually wants to fix it. Our current politicians are either feckless or corrupt.
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