This article says that cancer rates, especially in the young, are increasing. When I see something like this, my first inclination is to think "well, I wonder what it could be?"

However, I try my best to stay objective and focus on the facts presented. They state that the cancer rates in youth have increased 79% in the period of 1990 to 2019. At that point, you think "well, it's gotta be diet, obesity or chemical exposure." Then you look at their projections and for some reason around 2020, the projected cancers graph takes a sharp upward turn.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13197079/cancer-epidemic-young-people-america-uk-india-south-africa.html

whatever could it be?

Personally, I think it's genetically modified foods and lack of exercise. I'm sure the "other thing" could have played a part as well. I try to stick to "When you hear hooves, look for horses, not zebras."

TTUArmy said:

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Personally, I think it's genetically modified foods and lack of exercise. I'm sure the "other thing" could have played a part as well. I try to stick to "When you hear hooves, look for horses, not zebras."

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I'm the same but that post-2020 graph…

Mongolian Christmas said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Personally, I think it's genetically modified foods and lack of exercise. I'm sure the "other thing" could have played a part as well. I try to stick to "When you hear hooves, look for horses, not zebras."

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I'm the same but that post-2020 graph…

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I'm open to the idea the shot contributed, but I would still put money on diet.

Cancer loves sugar. Processed foods are loaded in sugar and they are generally much cheaper (and WAY more convenient) than all natural whole food.

I think people increased their eating of processed foods during the lockdowns and the pandemic, and then when inflation hit, they chose the cheaper and more convenient option. Add this to an already obese population before the pandemic (just look at how fat most kids are these days compared to when we were kids), and it's a recipe for a health disaster with or without the contributions of the shots added to the mix.

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Personally, I think it's genetically modified foods and lack of exercise. I'm sure the "other thing" could have played a part as well. I try to stick to "When you hear hooves, look for horses, not zebras."

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Cancer loves sugar

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I read on Facebook where if you turn your body pH to alkaline it kills cancer.

I was going to guess vaping/vape pens.

Your enzymes disassemble the food proteins and complex molecules so GMO is unlikely to matter. Also any increase via GMO would have started a decade or two ago.

Both CoVID and the vaccines for it contain complex proteins that happen to interfere with the part of the immune system that also serves to detect and destroy defective cells, I.e early or potential cancer cells. Your body becomes a bit less effective at preventing cancers from developing via its own natural immune processes.

The issue is you can get CoVID once, then develop a natural immunity, then may or may not get CoVID again for years, so your exposure window to reduced cancer resistance is limited and statistically insignificant. OR, you take the vaccine regularly and get heavy doses of the protein and have your body making it for weeks or more, and you are doing that on a regular basis with each vaccination. With most of the vaccines you are regularly suppressing your innate cancer resistance, and that effect is statistically cumulative and possibly compounding.

I'm still waiting on the study that says tattoos cause cancer. Seems there's been a study at some point in time that everything else causes some form of cancer. Tattoos have avoided that so far. I'm coming to the conclusion that at least 90% of the under 30 crowd has a tattoo of some sort. Time for a government funded study from the anti-tattoo crowd.

It's all the fake food we eat these days. Corps make more money and we all die of cancer (and corps make more money selling us meds)

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Mongolian Christmas said:

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TTUArmy said:

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Personally, I think it's genetically modified foods and lack of exercise. I'm sure the "other thing" could have played a part as well. I try to stick to "When you hear hooves, look for horses, not zebras."

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I'm the same but that post-2020 graph…

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I'm open to the idea the shot contributed, but I would still put money on diet.

Cancer loves sugar. Processed foods are loaded in sugar and they are generally much cheaper (and WAY more convenient) than all natural whole food.

I think people increased their eating of processed foods during the lockdowns and the pandemic, and then when inflation hit, they chose the cheaper and more convenient option. Add this to an already obese population before the pandemic (just look at how fat most kids are these days compared to when we were kids), and it's a recipe for a health disaster with or without the contributions of the shots added to the mix.

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I am of the same thinking.

Remember, when our government shut us all in, people were forced to not be as active as they were. So add poor eating habits to going to zero body movement, save for what is done by going from the sofa to the fridge, and you've got a disaster waiting to happen.

I would also like to see how many of these people who are getting cancer at a younger age were raised in a "bubble" type of environment where the kids didn't go outside to play when they were home. Immunity is strengthened by getting and fending off things when you interact with others, but for the past few decades, kids have spent most of their lives inside the house, and that's not conducive to a stronger immune system.

Regardless, this is an interesting finding because the entire country went into shutdown, yet it's the younger generations that are now being affected. Hopefully scientists can figure out why and start tackling it.

Well I tripped over a gmo corn plant one time and sprained my ankle… other than that gmo foods are completely safe and have harmed exactly zero humans on planet earth.

But people with no understanding of science fear what they don't understand.

I totally believe it is sugar these days.

It is so hard for kids to keep a low sugar diet just because it is in everything and you can't keep from using at least some convenience foods during the school week. We cannot be tiktok moms making organic bento boxes 5 days a week.

That said. Micro changes can have a big effect and keeping your kids from drinking soda, sports drinks, and Starbucks can help a lot.

A family member is fighting cancer with support from MD Anderson, and right now she is strictly keto because in her words, "cancer loves sugar" so I will take that one to the bank.

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I totally believe it is sugar these days.

It is so hard for kids to keep a low sugar diet just because it is in everything and you can't keep from using at least some convenience foods during the school week. We cannot be tiktok moms making organic bento boxes 5 days a week.

That said. Micro changes can have a big effect and keeping your kids from drinking soda, sports drinks, and Starbucks can help a lot.

A family member is fighting cancer with support from MD Anderson, and right now she is strictly keto because in her words, "cancer loves sugar" so I will take that one to the bank.

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Cancer loves sugar? I didn't know that, but if that's the case, then every first-world country has been and will continue' to be, a buffet for cancer.

Insulin loves sugar. Insulin is a growth hormone. Cancer is nothing but unnecessary and unwanted cellular growth in the human body.

The more sugar you consume, the more insulin you produce. Until your pancreas cant keep up and you become diabetic. Or until you're so insulin insensitive that your body becomes metabolically dysfunctional.

https://medicine.yale.edu/news-article/cancer-and-obesity-the-link-is-insulin/

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Well I tripped over a gmo corn plant one time and sprained my ankle… other than that gmo foods are completely safe and have harmed exactly zero humans on planet earth.

But people with no understanding of science fear what they don't understand.

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This post reeks of human arrogance.

Ok.

What's your background in Crop and Soil biotechnology?

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Ok.

What's your background in Crop and Soil biotechnology?

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None. But I'm pretty damned versed in untended consequences and the results of screwing with nature.

Nothing is without consequences.

Mongolian Christmas said:

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This article says that cancer rates, especially in the young, are increasing. When I see something like this, my first inclination is to think "well, I wonder what it could be?"

However, I try my best to stay objective and focus on the facts presented. They state that the cancer rates in youth have increased 79% in the period of 1990 to 2019. At that point, you think "well, it's gotta be diet, obesity or chemical exposure." Then you look at their projections and for some reason around 2020, the projected cancers graph takes a sharp upward turn.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13197079/cancer-epidemic-young-people-america-uk-india-south-africa.html

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What am I missing here? The graphs run through 2019 and then project forward. Am I missing data on 2020-present somewhere in there?

It's all the racism they are exposed too.

Need more dei and critical race theory.

Mongolian Christmas said:

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Ok.

What's your background in Crop and Soil biotechnology?

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None. But I'm pretty damned versed in untended consequences and the results of screwing with nature.

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So, and please correct me if I'm wrong, you're talking out of your ass?

Can I ask you and your Tech buddy to show your work? Really any scientific evidence? Any?

You might start here:

People making the world a better place

I don't need to show my work because it's been shown time and time again over the course of human history. But if you want a specific example, look what havoc your monocrop agriculture, pesticides and fertilizers have done to our rivers and oceans.

I realize this is a religion to you and your colleagues and that my doubt angers you.

It's ok. Nobody is arguing that they want to ban your GMOs.

Cancer is a genetic disease. While it's certainly influenced by environmental factors that can & do promote cancer, at it's heart cancer is a breakdown of the body's control over genetic mutation prevention.

Consider that despite how you might feel, we've actually made a lot of progress towards successfully treating cancer and that includes the cancers that used to kill patients when they were still too young to reproduce. Now that these same patients are living longer they are also passing their genetic predisposition for the cancer they survived on to their offspring. Their offspring will also do the same. And so on, and so on, and... The increase in frequency of childhood cancers should actually be considered evidence that we're winning against the natural selection that cancer has historically represented.

An analogy to this phenomenon would be the ever increasing lifespan of western societies. Our success with childhood disease means that we aren't dying in childhood and so we're living into adulthood & shifting the average age towards the positive side of the scale.

Of course obesity, vaping, diet, etc. all play a role in cancer rates, but I would argue that any increases in cancer rates would be more with the adult age categories. Childhood cancers are much more about genetic predisposition.

Mongolian Christmas said:

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I don't need to show my work because it's been shown time and time again over the course of human history. But if you want a specific example, look what havoc your monocrop agriculture, pesticides and fertilizers have done to our rivers and oceans.

I realize this is a religion to you and your colleagues and that my doubt angers you.

It's ok. Nobody is arguing that they want to ban your GMOs.

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The preferable option would be billions of people starving to death because we can't produce enough food to keep up with population growth? Is that you Thanos?

And the last 2 oceans I visited looked pretty nice and has lots of fish in them.

And polluted rivers and oceans are way more a function of industrial and city issues.

The oceans are fine? It's recommended that you don't eat more than a certain amount of fish due to the chemicals and heavy metals.

I love the circular logic. Large scale agriculture allows cities and overpopulation but it also is there to feed all these people.

Maybe my philosophy needs some science but your science also needs some philosophy.

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The oceans are fine? It's recommended that you don't eat more than a certain amount of apex predator fish like tuna due to the chemicals and heavy metals.

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FIFY

Biomagnification is a thing.

And where are these apex predators getting these toxins? From the smaller fish they prey upon.

Literally arguing for the people that are polluting us. Hilarious.

TTUArmy said:

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Personally, I think it's genetically modified foods and lack of exercise. I'm sure the "other thing" could have played a part as well. I try to stick to "When you hear hooves, look for horses, not zebras."

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AKA Occam's Razor.

Disagree with the GMO premise but more processed foods, sedentary lifestyle, lack of activity, increased obesity, and possibly chronic exposures to a variety of ubiquitous carcinogens (though less likely IMO) are likely culprits.

Better detection methods and more frequent screening will always yield more positive results as well.

Mongolian Christmas said:

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I don't need to show my work because it's been shown time and time again over the course of human history. But if you want a specific example, look what havoc your monocrop agriculture, pesticides and fertilizers have done to our rivers and oceans.

I realize this is a religion to you and your colleagues and that my doubt angers you.

It's ok. Nobody is arguing that they want to ban your GMOs.

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Optimized agriculture has saved infinitely more lives than it has harmed. This isn't a winning argument.

I just received this from a family member on vacation in Florida. How appropriate. Can't swim at the beach due to bacteria levels in the water.

"Muh oceans are fine"

https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/florida-department-of-health-issues-water-quality-advisory-for-3-miami-dade-beaches/

"Optimized" agriculture has allowed for human population growth, which requires "optimized" agriculture. Circular reasoning.

Mongolian Christmas said:

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And where are these apex predators getting these toxins? From the smaller fish they prey upon.

Literally arguing for the people that are polluting us. Hilarious.

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Not at all. Toxins have always been a part of the world we live in. Just pointing out that the toxins aren't building up to any level of concern with most of the ocean life. Sardines aren't any more toxic now than they've ever been.

Post on f84 since those sheep love science.

Mongolian Christmas said:

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"Optimized" agriculture has allowed for human population growth, which requires "optimized" agriculture. Circular reasoning.

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Uh-huh. It's allowed for a planet that sustains 8 billion people. It is one of the most critical means by which life on this planet has thrived, even for those too stupid to realize it.

Are you going to argue against western medicine now because a fraction of a percentage of the population has adverse reaction to vaccines? Or maybe clean drinking water is a problem due to chlorination.