What "Funding Ukraine" is really about…

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maroonthrunthru
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Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
Slicer97
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I'm sure a certain percentage gets kicked back to more than a few Congressmen and Senators as well.

And not just on the right side of the aisle.
Canyon Lake Agbu94
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The Military Industrial Complex is undefeated.
No, I don't give a damn how much money you make. If your last shirt has pockets, take all you can take. I'm goin' out with nothin' like I came in
Ag06Law
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Was there really anyone who didn't know this already?
rocky the dog
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
FrioAg 00
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I believe you are dead right.

Those companies suffered while covid shut down their production for 2 years (they are mostly housed in liberal jurisdictions) and they also didn't have a quick mechanism to adjust pricing to inflation, since most of their orders are negotiated years in advance of delivery.

In other words - the same liberal policies left them behind like a lot of other industries.


This is nothing more that the swamp (both sides) bailing them out with a huge cash influx, and of course most of the pols owns shares in those same companies.
rocky the dog
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I'm sure a certain percentage gets kicked back to more than a few Congressmen and Senators as well.

And not just on the right side of the aisle.

Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
maroonthrunthru
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Not kicked back directly, but certainly re-donated to campaigns…
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maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
O.K.
So, tell us why D's support it.....
Lex Talionis.......Ordo Seclorum
javajaws
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Newsflash: All government spending results in kickbacks of some sort, for both parties. Doesn't matter if its military spending, or domestic entitlements. So stop acting like this is some special case of corruption here.
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Slicer97 said:

I'm sure a certain percentage gets kicked back to more than a few Congressmen and Senators as well.

And not just on the right side of the aisle.
This is the correct answer. Straight into campaign funds.

Money laundering 101.
BadMoonRisin
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maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
I trust what you say with the same level of trust that I give to the Federal Government every day I wake up and breath air.

Zero.
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maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.
911sAg
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K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.


You know op is Maga ?
BadMoonRisin
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K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.
Funky Winkerbean
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And then we will pay to rebuild the country.
K2-HMFIC
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BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.
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911sAg said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.


You know op is Maga ?
Could be horseshoe politics...still the same.
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maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
This is why I don't buy food. The money you spend at the supermarket goes to the enormous Agricultural Complex. You think your money goes to Kroger? Think again. There are back room deals to "Big Food" to pay unseen farmers and ranchers who are secretly profiting off your purchases at the supermarket.
BadMoonRisin
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K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.
Why? Your first sentence is completely stupid.

Ukraine is a failed soviet. We are the United States of America, why are we building weapons for Ukraine? They are not a NATO member.

Is it because Trump asked about the cookie jar that a majority of congress is apart of?

Nope, that's not why.

Ukrainian Mr Bean has slow joe bent over a barrel because HE AND HUNTER ARE ON THE TAKE... period.

They dont want Trump elected because he asked about wtf was actually going on in Ukraine.

It's extremely obvious.
geoag58
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K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
K2-HMFIC
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geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?
LMCane
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the same people who believe we support Ukraine to prop up the "military industrial complex" are the same people who can't read a stock chart:

geoag58
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K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?


After witnessing the last thirty plus years of endless wars you still trust our federal government and elected leaders implicitly?
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
Tramp96
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Struggle and Strifer said:

The Military Industrial Complex is undefeated.
Waffledynamics
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maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…
What? No, you've got it all wrong. It's:

1. Send money to Ukraine
2. ???
3. Profit!

/s

Yes, people here benefit from the business activity. You, too, can invest in defense stocks. That doesn't make arming a country defending itself an evil thing.
Waffledynamics
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K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?
Yep! They paid Zelensky so that... *checks notes* Russia would invade Ukraine, almost kill him several times, occupy, brutalize, and rape their way across the landscape, disrupt Ukraine's economy, and... and...

If this sounds ridiculously contrived, that's because it is.
geoag58
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Waffledynamics said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…
What? No, you've got it all wrong. It's:

1. Send money to Ukraine
2. ???
3. Profit!

/s

Yes, people here benefit from the business activity. You, too, can invest in defense stocks. That doesn't make arming a country defending itself an evil thing.


When the country is fighting a war because our political class used the pretext of war to hide that they are using Ukraine to hide their shenanigans and fight a proxy war against the Russians it is evil.

There is a school of thought that we should be making Russia our ally for the coming conflict with our chief adversary China. Instead we have pushed Russia into the orbit of China.
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
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geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?


After witnessing the last thirty plus years of endless wars you still trust our federal government and elected leaders implicitly?
Nice question dodge...
Seamaster
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Money Laundering on the backs of 45 year old Ukrainian conscripts that are being thrown into the meat grinder in an unwinnable conflict.
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Struggle and Strifer said:

The Military Industrial Complex is undefeated.
Except for when we lost in Korea (ended in a truce), Vietnam (ended in a million boats of S Vietnamese rushing out of the country), Lebanon, Iraq and Afghanistan.
BadMoonRisin
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K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?
Foreign AID = Foreign PAID. They are greasing palms with both of our money. And you dont care, because the silver-haired ****** you voted for (or at least his BBC ****) is directing the funds.
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BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?
Foreign AID = Foreign PAID. They are greasing palms with both of our money. And you dont care, because the silver-haired ****** you voted for (or at least his BBC ****) is directing the funds.
Sooo....again...since Northrup and LockMart are getting most of the $...are they paying Zelensky?
geoag58
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K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?


After witnessing the last thirty plus years of endless wars you still trust our federal government and elected leaders implicitly?
Nice question dodge...


Yea, you know I think that Northrop and Lockheed took out a huge ad in the Wall Street Journal to explain exactly how they pay and who they pay. It is on the page right after Pfizers ad detailing how they paid to squash any information about the effectiveness of Ivermectin in treating china virus beginning in May of 2020.

You need to answer the question about your level of trust in the federal government and our elected leaders. So we can know whether to take you seriously or just laugh at you.
Fight against the dictatorship of the federal bureaucracy!
BadMoonRisin
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geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

geoag58 said:

K2-HMFIC said:

BadMoonRisin said:

K2-HMFIC said:

maroonthrunthru said:

Roughly 90% of the money designated to fund Ukraine never leaves the country…

It is paid to US defense contractors to build ammo and weapons FOR Ukraine…

Very little of it is actually sent to Ukraine…

It's nothing but a big money-grab for the War Industrial Complex here in the US…

Just like Covid was a huge money-grab for Big Pharma and the Hospital Industrial Complex…

That's why R's support it…
MAGA Logic:

The majority of the $ is staying inside the United States AND A slush fund for a corrupt Ukrainian government.

Nope...gotta stick w/the facts here...we're building weapons for the Ukrainians.

So is it a slush fund for the DIB or Zelenzky? You can have one or the other but not both.


Well, I guess the expert has spoken. And there is no way both could be happening at once.
And guess what else, we gave billions to Iran and Iran is supplying arms to the Russians so we are funding both sides at once!

Money is still fungible.
Ahhh...so Northrup and Lockheed are secretly paying Zelensky?


After witnessing the last thirty plus years of endless wars you still trust our federal government and elected leaders implicitly?
Nice question dodge...


Yea, you know I think that Northrop and Lockheed took out a huge ad in the Wall Street Journal to explain exactly how they pay and who they pay. It is on the page right after Pfizers ad detailing how they paid to squash any information about the effectiveness of Ivermectin in treating china virus beginning in May of 2020.

You need to answer the question about your level of trust in the federal government and our elected leaders. So we can know whether to take you seriously or just laugh at you.
I dont suppose that the people you are replying to will ever respond. That's kind of their thing. Toss out ****** bait, and when it doesnt work, just ditch and run away.

They are basically only after the lowest common denominator, which is why their shtick got them 81*M ballots counted.
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