US deficit to skyrocket in next decade

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MemphisAg1
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Been a lot of warnings about this, but this train wreck continues to play out in slow motion right in front of us. Because we continue spending beyond our means, the interest we'll pay on the debt will continue to increase over the coming years. it will eventually overwhelm federal finances and require either steep cuts in government spending or huge tax increases. More than likely a combination of both.

As our debt grows, so will the interest rate lenders charge us. Or, the Fed will just print the money, which leads to inflation and then higher rates to try and control it. Either way, a lot of pain in front of us and we continue to whistle past the graveyard as if it's a fairy tale that will never come true.

And this doesn't even consider the expected shortfalls in Social Security and Medicare which will become an urgent issue within the next decade also.

This forecast is from the non partisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO), so it's about as objective an assessment as you can get from the government.

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The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on Wednesday released a report projecting that federal budget deficits will skyrocket to well over $2 trillion per year in the next decade.

The baseline in the CBO's annual budget and economic outlook covers the 2024 to 2034 period and projects that the budget deficit will rise from about $1.6 trillion in 2024 to $2.6 trillion in 2034, with deficits topping $2 trillion each year after 2031.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/cbo-report-says-us-deficit-will-skyrocket-next-decade
Apache
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the Fed will just print the money, which leads to inflation and then higher rates to try and control it.
Raising taxes & cutting spending are bad for re-election campaigns, so this is the most likely path going forward.

Slicer97
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Who was the worse president? FDR or Nixon?

They both screwed us really good.
Loren Visser
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"going to" ?
riverrataggie
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Slow motion you say? Seems like **** is hitting the fan pretty fast to me.
bigtruckguy3500
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I'm shocked!
CDUB98
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Slicer97 said:

Who was the worse president? FDR or Nixon?

They both screwed us really good.
CDUB98
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Should never have left the gold standard. It's been a **** show ever since.

But, GWB really kicked things off on our new path of perpetually money printing.
LMCane
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you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.
Jeeper79
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Neither candidate cares about the deficit or the debt. One isn't even marginally better than the other on that front.
Logos Stick
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LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


LOL

When the Democrats get total control, your retirement is going to be taken. Your 401k is gone.

You thinking you're gonna live large and easy on the beach is a fantasy.
BigRobSA
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Sounds about right with the two major party candidates being libs. Spendy McSpenderson and Biden.
Jeeper79
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Logos Stick said:

LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


LOL

When the Democrats get total control, your retirement is going to be taken. Your 401k is gone.

You thinking you're gonna live large and easy on the beach is a fantasy.
Nobody is taking anyone's I-already-saved-it 401k.
Logos Stick
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Jeeper79 said:

Logos Stick said:

LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


LOL

When the Democrats get total control, your retirement is going to be taken. Your 401k is gone.

You thinking you're gonna live large and easy on the beach is a fantasy.
Nobody is taking anyone's I-already-saved-it 401k.


The following applies to you since you are a rad lefty. You are at step 1, my liberal friend:

Step 1: It's not going to happen

Step 2: Yeah, it's happening, but it's not a big deal

Step 3: It's a good thing, actually

Step 4: People freaking out about it are the real problem
Heineken-Ashi
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Jeeper79 said:

Logos Stick said:

LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


LOL

When the Democrats get total control, your retirement is going to be taken. Your 401k is gone.

You thinking you're gonna live large and easy on the beach is a fantasy.
Nobody is taking anyone's I-already-saved-it 401k.


When the deficit is 140% of discretionary spending, they won't have a choice.
Funky Winkerbean
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LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


True patriot.
evan_aggie
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Canadas tax rate is 10-15% higher than ours across various income brackets.

The precedent is all around us. They may not take your 401K, but they sure can tax the withdrawals/income.
No Spin Ag
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Both sides always have, and always will make go Brrrr. The only difference is what they spend it on.
There are in fact two things, science and opinion; the former begets knowledge, the later ignorance. Hippocrates
2040huck
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CDUB98 said:

Should never have left the gold standard. It's been a **** show ever since.

But, GWB really kicked things off on our new path of perpetually money printing.
Actually, it was Reagan
LOYAL AG
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We're $34T in debt. Guess how much we've spent in entitlements since LBJ War on Poverty began. $34T. Guess how much lower the poverty rate is than when the war began? 0%.

Nixon taking us off the gold standard was inevitable, there's not enough gold on earth to back the volume of currency it takes for us to fuel the global economy at $35/oz. The currency needs to be able to expand as the economy expands or currency itself becomes a commodity with a rising price that becomes cost prohibitive and an obstacle to growth. The problem is that we're printing currency at a significantly faster rate than the economy is growing and we're doing it to buy votes which means it's completely unproductive spending.

The candidates for worst president would be Wilson, LBJ, FDR and Nixon and I'd probably put them in that order. Wilson fundamentally changed the United States in a way that all the others simply built on. His "vision" of a government full of experts was the foundation for the disaster we have today.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
LOYAL AG
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2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

Should never have left the gold standard. It's been a **** show ever since.

But, GWB really kicked things off on our new path of perpetually money printing.
Actually, it was Reagan


Reagan at least got something of value out of the runaway spending. Nations have always tolerated debt to fuel war and Reagan was willing to spend the Soviets into oblivion. Nobody since then has anything of value to show for their excess.
The federal government was never meant to be this powerful.
CDUB98
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The candidates for worst president would be Wilson, LBJ, FDR and Nixon and I'd probably put them in that order. Wilson fundamentally changed the United States in a way that all the others simply built on. His "vision" of a government full of experts was the foundation for the disaster we have today.
CheeseSndwch
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Make Isolationism Great Again!
2040huck
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LOYAL AG said:

2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

Should never have left the gold standard. It's been a **** show ever since.

But, GWB really kicked things off on our new path of perpetually money printing.
Actually, it was Reagan


Reagan at least got something of value out of the runaway spending. Nations have always tolerated debt to fuel war and Reagan was willing to spend the Soviets into oblivion. Nobody since then has anything of value to show for their excess.
You seem to know a lot about this. How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets? Sure, it helped our economy , but I don't understand the oblivion part
BlueTaze
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Buy now pay later. The gov has been doing it for decades, now the average consumer can do it for flat screens. What could ever go wrong?

There is a huge bet that AI and automation will provide the productivity gains needed to cover the baby boomer draw on SS, and all the other debt. Also, backstopped by the USD being global reserve currency. If either of these legs fails, we crash hard.
Aggie_2463
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Soooo what do we need to do to protect ourselves financially from the impending financial doom?
CDUB98
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How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets?
Ladies and gentleman, I give you a product of the modern day education system.
LMCane
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looks like a promising future...

2040huck
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CDUB98 said:

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How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets?
Ladies and gentleman, I give you a product of the modern day education system.
Yet you cant explain how reagan borrowing defeated the soviets.
Phatbob
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2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

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How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets?
Ladies and gentleman, I give you a product of the modern day education system.
Yet you cant explain how reagan borrowing defeated the soviets.
Technically, it wasn't the borrowing, it was the defense spending (which relied on deficits at the time), but that has been basic understanding of the end of the USSR era for decades, so the point still stands.
LMCane
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Logos Stick said:

LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


LOL

When the Democrats get total control, your retirement is going to be taken. Your 401k is gone.

You thinking you're gonna live large and easy on the beach is a fantasy.
wrong

as an accredited investor I am moving my assets offshore
CDUB98
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2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

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How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets?
Ladies and gentleman, I give you a product of the modern day education system.
Yet you cant explain how reagan borrowing defeated the soviets.
Yes, actually, I can. Besides living through it, unlike you, I was also taught it.

I'm having more enjoyment pointing out your ignorance of a key piece of the Cold War.
txaggie_08
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LMCane said:

Logos Stick said:

LMCane said:

you younger guys and those with millenial children

have fun dealing with this while I am living in Europe and Ormond Beach, Florida enjoying retirement.

considering I have always voted for the most conservative candidate possible since 1996, this isn't my problem.


LOL

When the Democrats get total control, your retirement is going to be taken. Your 401k is gone.

You thinking you're gonna live large and easy on the beach is a fantasy.
wrong

as an accredited investor I am moving my assets offshore
2040huck
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CDUB98 said:

2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

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How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets?
Ladies and gentleman, I give you a product of the modern day education system.
Yet you cant explain how reagan borrowing defeated the soviets.
Yes, actually, I can. Besides living through it, unlike you, I was also taught it.

I'm having more enjoyment pointing out your ignorance of a key piece of the Cold War.
LOL I graduated from college before you were out of diapers
CDUB98
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2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

2040huck said:

CDUB98 said:

Quote:

How did reagans deficit running defeat the soviets?
Ladies and gentleman, I give you a product of the modern day education system.
Yet you cant explain how reagan borrowing defeated the soviets.
Yes, actually, I can. Besides living through it, unlike you, I was also taught it.

I'm having more enjoyment pointing out your ignorance of a key piece of the Cold War.
LOL I graduated from college before you were out of diapers
Thus, like I said, you were never taught it.

If you're really that old, well........[this response has been banned by STAFF.]
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