Tulsi Gabbord / Ben Carson

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BartInLA
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It will never happen but would you theoretically vote for them in a Republican primary?
Two honest, decent, straightforward, and highly intelligent people with a spotless record and Gabbord is a veteran.
Darth Randy
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no
CDUB98
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No because of Gabbard.
Tea Party
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CDUB98 said:

No because of Gabbard.
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aggiehawg
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Gabbard needs some more government experience. Senate or Governor. She should leave Hawaii and set up residence in NY. Their residency requirements are very loose. She's young enough to polish up her resume.
BG Knocc Out
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No, I actually like her, because she is actually a rare honest moderate democrat with actual integrity...but she is still a gun grabber. So F no...even if I agree with a lot of her stances.
zoneag
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Tulsi who wants gun control, the green new deal, and government run single payer healthcare among other leftist positions? Why would any conservative be remotely interested in voting for that?
TexAgs91
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Nah, sounds like the purpose is to check boxes
No, I don't care what CNN or MSNBC said this time
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Rapier108
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CDUB98 said:

No because of Gabbard.
Same here.

I like what she does in going against the wokesters and don't think she hates this country like most on the left, but she's still a leftist which is an automatic no vote for me.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Im Gipper
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Why would any Republican vote Gabbard?

Is this a joke?

I'm Gipper
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I'd vote for Carson all day.
P.U.T.U
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Gabbard seems like a decent person but not who I want in office
abileneag09
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If a democrat wins any office, I hope it's someone like Gabbard. But she's definitely nowhere near a Republican, let alone a conservative. So no she doesn't have my vote.
Get Off My Lawn
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Tulsi may be a sane Liberal, and preferable to Nikki Haley, but I want to see an actual pendulum swing for once. I'm tired of "compromise" candidates who only move the needle further from my goals.
Sgt. Schultz
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As VP, Gabbard's position on any issue will be the exactly the same as POTUS. You vote for POTUS, not VP.

How many people voted for Biden because of heels up? Not many. The overwhelming majority of people that did vote for Biden was, and will vote for Biden this go around will also be, because he's not Trump.
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BadMoonRisin
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Gabbard is a barely functional ******. She has to be. She's progressive.

No thanks.

Ben is OK. Smart guy. Not a leader, though.
aggie93
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This is kind of like the RFK thing. I mean I definitely like her better than most Liberals but SHE'S A LIBERAL.
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AggieVictor10
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Would love to see gabbard/Haley.
aggiehawg
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AggieVictor10 said:

Would love to see gabbard/Haley.
Uhmm, No.

Call me sexist if you want but an all female ticket is still a non-starter.
ttu_85
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Both are great humans but not good leaders. Carson is just to nice and decent for that job.
BartInLA
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Gabbard left the Democratic party and Democrats hate her more than they do Trump. When she was very critical of Democrats she incensed Democrats.

I don't agree with all of her positions but she has changed her position on many stances which means she is willing to change and has an open mind. She, as a Democrat, sponsored or co-sponsored many bills that Democrats were totally against.
I think it's like if tu had a great quarterback and he spent his senior year at A&M and became a rabid Aggie while insulting the whorns. tu would hate him more than anyone.
Plus she'd be the most gorgeous President in history of any country in the world.

Honestly tell me that her positions (from Wikopedia) sounds like a LEFTIST or Liberal?

In 2022, she was a featured speaker at a conservative conference. There she said "I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, demonize the police and protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents speaker at the Conservative Political Action Conference.
She has been a frequent critic of the Biden administration.

2022, she announced that she had quit the Democratic Party and echoed conservative criticisms of the Democratic Party.

Gabbard has said she is mindful that most Muslims are not extremist, but has criticised Obama and Hillary Clinton for not acknowledging the threat posed by radical Islam.

In September, 2015, Gabbard sponsored a bill with Republican Duncan recognizing the persecution of Christians and calling for the immediate prioritization of accepting refugees from such communities.

In 2013, Gabbard co-sponsored and voted for the Nuclear Iran Prevention Act, which imposed sanctions on Iran over its nuclear program.

Gabbard supports a strong U.S.-Israel relationship. In March 2015, unlike 58 other Democrats, she did not boycott Benjamin Netanyahu's address to the U.S. Congress, saying at
the time that relations "must rise above the political fray, as America continues to stand with Israel as her strongest ally.

On December 9, 2020, Gabbard introduced a legislative bill which sought to ensure that a health-care practitioner exercises the proper degree of care in the event that a child survives an abortion, as an amendment to Title 18 of the United States Code. The next day, Gabbard introduced a bill that would have prohibited all abortions after 20 weeks gestational age.

In her full statement regarding her decision to leave the Democratic Party, Gabbard criticized the Biden administration's October 2022 arrest and indictment of several pro-life activists who had allegedly blocked access to an abortion clinic.

Gabbard has advocated for financial reform since first running for Congress, including such measures as restoring the Glass-Steagall Act breaking up too-big-to fail banks, strengthening protections against
predatory lending practices, increasing
capital requirements for the nation's largest banks, and
banning naked credit default swaps.

Gabbard stated, "Today's Democratic Party does not believe in our constitutionally protected right of free speech. Fostering freedom of thought and diversity of expression is the very foundation of any flourishing democracy.

Gabbard has stated that she is a supporter of the Second Amendment Gabbard says she believes the Second Amendment is necessary so citizens can "defend themselves and our loved ones, and to serve as a check on a tyrannical government seeking to take away our God-given freedoms.
Gabbard expressed approval with the Supreme Court's ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association, Inc. v. Bruen, which held that an individual's right to carry a handgun for self-defense outside the home is protected by the Second Amendment of the
United States Constitution.

Gabbard has also stated "I don't support open borders. Without secure borders, we don't really have a country" and that it is a "fair" criticism that other Democratic politicians had misguidedly embraced the idea of open borders.

In 2020, Gabbard signaled a shift in her position on transgender issues after introducing the Protect Women in Sports Act of 2020 to the U.S. House of Representatives, which would amend Title IX protections to prohibit
transgender females from participating in women's athletics.

Gabbard has criticized the "defund the police movement for "demonizing law enforcement."

Gabbard introduced the Securing America's Elections Act of 2018 to require voter-verified paper ballots in federal elections in case of any audit or recount, allow voters to verify and correct any errors before their permanent paper ballot is preserved for official government record; and establish voter-verified paper ballots as the correct record of votes cast if there were any inconsistencies or irregularities between electronic and paper vote tallies.

During a January 2020 interview with a newspaper's editor board, she criticized her party and the cable news media. Gabbard stated that the Democratic party "unfortunately has become more and more out of touch" with people across the country, and that th
e party needs to listen to the concerns of ordinary voters.

"I can no longer remain in today's Democratic Party that is now under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers driven by cowardly wokeness, who divide us by racializing every issue and stoke anti-white racism, actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms, are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, demonize the police and protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, believe in open borders, and weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents.

Does the above sound like Nancy Pelosi or AOC would approve of any of this?
I propose that it you closed your eyes and listened to this without knowing who said it many of you would be willing to campaign for whoever said this.
winmck
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I have voted for Dr Carson in a primary and would absolutely do so again. I think he's what this country needs right now.
GE
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I would vote for them over Haley but not before Trump, Desantis, Vivek, or RFK.
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